Thanks del. You obviously know a lot more about the law than me!
raymundo:
Sorry but I must disagree as in the UK now it is guilty until proven innocent, otherwise why was he not released on bail ?
got to agree there the uk has changed a lot now you have to prove your innocent not them prove your guilty its a joke
The saddest thing is neither expected their lives to be over when they left the house in the morning. Yes Slater’s is only over figuratively but you have to wonder if incidents like these will become more commonplace as the roads get more congested and people become more withdrawn from society in their little tin boxes.
As the victim was also previously a truck driver one wonders how wise it was to put himself in a position when he should know of the dangers being around large vehicles.
m1cks:
The saddest thing is neither expected their lives to be over when they left the house in the morning. Yes Slater’s is only over figuratively but you have to wonder if incidents like these will become more commonplace as the roads get more congested and people become more withdrawn from society in their little tin boxes.
As the victim was also previously a truck driver one wonders how wise it was to put himself in a position when he should know of the dangers being around large vehicles.
It is irrelevant what the profession of Trevor was, at the end of the day Slater broke the cardinal rule of leaving his cab (and this was not the first time he has been in trouble for road rage, only this time someone was killed) Slater would have quiet clearly seen Trevor, as it was shown in court, but he chose to use his 17 tonne weapon to seriously hurt Trevor which ultimately caused his death! Justice has prevailed, Slater will pay for the consequences of his actions!
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?
He admitted this in court!
Another one we’ll have to pay for. Bring back the rope.
Sentenced to 15 years minimum term.
Moodybum:
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?He admitted this in court!
Were you in court ?
ajt:
Moodybum:
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?He admitted this in court!
Were you in court ?
No, I bet he wasn’t but I imagine one of the journalists that reported on the case and wrote it in the newspaper article were.
m1cks:
ajt:
Moodybum:
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?He admitted this in court!
Were you in court ?
No, I bet he wasn’t but I imagine one of the journalists that reported on the case and wrote it in the newspaper article were.
M1cks, thanks for the assumption, NO I AM NOT A JOURNALIST but unfortunately i was at the trial, from Monday 21st July right through to sentencing on wed 30th July! Slater admitted in court that he stepped out of his truck!
You know what this forum is absolutely absurd, your defending a fellow truck driver, who murdered an innocent man, just because he is a driver, it’s insane. How about you reflect on this for a minute and think how you would be feeling right now if your father, brother, uncle or grandfather would have been ran over by a 17 tonne truck, all of their insides emptying out of their body, bones crushing, head exploding and them not being identifiable, so much so that they had to be identified by their tooth brush? Slater was cool as a cucumber when the incident happened, his ecg was “normal” the jury listened to the facts of the case and they found him unanimously guilty, if you would have sat and listened to the facts of the case, maybe you wouldn’t all be so quick to defend!
Moodybum:
m1cks:
ajt:
Moodybum:
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?He admitted this in court!
Were you in court ?
No, I bet he wasn’t but I imagine one of the journalists that reported on the case and wrote it in the newspaper article were.
M1cks, thanks for the assumption, NO I AM NOT A JOURNALIST but unfortunately i was at the trial
I didnt realise you were in court but my reply was for the benefit of AJT as he questioned your statement. I was merely pointing out that it had been reported by the press.
Moodybum:
m1cks:
ajt:
Moodybum:
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?He admitted this in court!
Were you in court ?
No, I bet he wasn’t but I imagine one of the journalists that reported on the case and wrote it in the newspaper article were.
M1cks, thanks for the assumption, NO I AM NOT A JOURNALIST but unfortunately i was at the trial, from Monday 21st July right through to sentencing on wed 30th July! Slater admitted in court that he stepped out of his truck!
You know what this forum is absolutely absurd, your defending a fellow truck driver, who murdered an innocent man, just because he is a driver, it’s insane. How about you reflect on this for a minute and think how you would be feeling right now if your father, brother, uncle or grandfather would have been ran over by a 17 tonne truck, all of their insides emptying out of their body, bones crushing, head exploding and them not being identifiable, so much so that they had to be identified by their tooth brush? Slater was cool as a cucumber when the incident happened, his ecg was “normal” the jury listened to the facts of the case and they found him unanimously guilty, if you would have sat and listened to the facts of the case, maybe you wouldn’t all be so quick to defend!
Well said.
Moodybum:
m1cks:
ajt:
Moodybum:
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?He admitted this in court!
Were you in court ?
No, I bet he wasn’t but I imagine one of the journalists that reported on the case and wrote it in the newspaper article were.
M1cks, thanks for the assumption, NO I AM NOT A JOURNALIST but unfortunately i was at the trial, from Monday 21st July right through to sentencing on wed 30th July! Slater admitted in court that he stepped out of his truck!
You know what this forum is absolutely absurd, your defending a fellow truck driver, who murdered an innocent man, just because he is a driver, it’s insane. How about you reflect on this for a minute and think how you would be feeling right now if your father, brother, uncle or grandfather would have been ran over by a 17 tonne truck, all of their insides emptying out of their body, bones crushing, head exploding and them not being identifiable, so much so that they had to be identified by their tooth brush? Slater was cool as a cucumber when the incident happened, his ecg was “normal” the jury listened to the facts of the case and they found him unanimously guilty, if you would have sat and listened to the facts of the case, maybe you wouldn’t all be so quick to defend!
Lets get one thing straight, i’m not defending Slater but because the victim was clearly involving himself in the altercation and was standing in front of the truck after Slater had got back in he also had a part to play in the outcome hence imo why manslaughter would have been more appropriate.
If two blokes decide to fight down the pub and one gets hurt you can hardly call the injured man a victim.
Best get on to the CPS then ajt and see if they’ll give a man of your obvious skills a job.
ajt:
Moodybum:
m1cks:
ajt:
Moodybum:
ajt:
^^^^Where did it say Slater left his cab ?He admitted this in court!
Were you in court ?
No, I bet he wasn’t but I imagine one of the journalists that reported on the case and wrote it in the newspaper article were.
M1cks, thanks for the assumption, NO I AM NOT A JOURNALIST but unfortunately i was at the trial, from Monday 21st July right through to sentencing on wed 30th July! Slater admitted in court that he stepped out of his truck!
You know what this forum is absolutely absurd, your defending a fellow truck driver, who murdered an innocent man, just because he is a driver, it’s insane. How about you reflect on this for a minute and think how you would be feeling right now if your father, brother, uncle or grandfather would have been ran over by a 17 tonne truck, all of their insides emptying out of their body, bones crushing, head exploding and them not being identifiable, so much so that they had to be identified by their tooth brush? Slater was cool as a cucumber when the incident happened, his ecg was “normal” the jury listened to the facts of the case and they found him unanimously guilty, if you would have sat and listened to the facts of the case, maybe you wouldn’t all be so quick to defend!
Lets get one thing straight, i’m not defending Slater but because the victim was clearly involving himself in the altercation and was standing in front of the truck after Slater had got back in he also had a part to play in the outcome hence imo why manslaughter would have been more appropriate.
If two blokes decide to fight down the pub and one gets hurt you can hardly call the injured man a victim.
Firstly, it’s not really comparable to a pub brawl is it? two men fighting with their fists?
The jury, after over a week of grueling facts/information were asked, after hearing the judge sum up the facts of the case, whether they found the defendant guilty of Murder, Manslaughter, or if it was an accident and they (quiet rightly imo) found him guilty of murder. Had you have been sat in court listening to both the defense and prosecution argue the facts then i think you would have a different opinion. It’s not a simple case of Trevor was out of his car so he was “involving himself in the altercation and was standing in front of the truck after Slater got back in” which in turn allows Slater to crush him under his 17 tonne truck, as a consequence he should be found guilty of manslaughter! Several photographs were taken and shown that in every possible angle Slater could see Trevor and therefore it was very unlikely that you could say it was manslaughter, furthermore, surely any normal person would sit in their cab and wait until they could categorically confirm that the person was back in their car, if the person wouldn’t leave then the police should be called. Slater quiet clearly wanted to hurt Trevor with his truck and unfortunately for both parties he killed him.
switchlogic:
Best get on to the CPS then ajt and see if they’ll give a man of your obvious skills a job.
Couldn’t have put it better myself 
Well, I thought he would get away with murder as it seems to me to be quite rare to be convicted of such an offence by such a method, unless, as stated, it could be proven beyond reasonable doubt that serious harm, at least, to the victim was intended. In this case, all the pertinent evidence seems to have been against Slater who did see or know the victim was in the way and deliberately drove at him contrary to what he claimed. He was a liability on the roads and unfortunately it came to this to stop him.
It is quite rare to be convicted of murder etc when the “weapon” is a vehicle because, in the vast majority of cases, there is no intent to seriously injure (or kill) - rather it is just a case of driving like a knob, or simple negligence. On the odd occasion that intent (to cause serious harm) can be proved, then a murder conviction will often follow.