Dave, are you thinking of becoming a politician? Blinding explanation of the price hike - “This is the first rise since the last one”
Still good value for money in my eyes, though and an excellent read throughout
Best Regards
Trev
I picked up my copy today too… Excellent stuff. I’d just like to know how much it costs to paint somthing like that Strallis of the Volvo…
I do fancy one of them Truck&Driver Flight jackets… Do we get any Discount Dave??..
Think Ill be paying double for posting this topic. By the way, something I
ve always wondered - who edits the editor?
Best Regards
Trev
[putting on armour] I read the Jan copy in the shop as it was so thin. The price rise is unjustified. Half of the mag is adverts, including a double-spread for clothes with a T&D logo on them
Much on the content is lifted from this website too. Perhaps I am wrong, but under the drivers wages blurb (again lifted from this site) I don’t recall any driver saying that they were taking home an average of £650/week with £20 a night out on top of that ■■ Perhaps I am mistaken.
Other than that, it’s a brilliant mag
I don’t buy any truck mags because by the time they’re published,they’re out of date anyhow.
The only one near is Commercial Motor,but even that I stopped buying years ago.
If I want up to the minute information,I just log onto this site.(He said grovelling)
I have to say i enjoy T and D but wonder why they dont fight the drivers cause■■? In an industry that is surley failing the driver whith poor pay and worse conditions we have an editor going on about some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz god knows what in the section entitled TO THE POINT. I have to confess i was numb from the neck up after getting only half way through this article,slid off my chair and fell into what can only be described as deep slumber!!!My msg to Dave young is GET ON THE DRIVERS SIDE. Tackle some real issuses which might just improve things for the guys that pay your WAGE!!! THE DRIVERS, With RESPECT. Tony…
Dave Young IS on the drivers side, why would’nt he be, after all he is still a driver just like the rest of us, just because he is now the editor of a ■■■■ good mag does’nt mean he has forgotten his roots (former car transporter driver among other driving jobs).
Maybe if more of you bought the magazine instead of standing in the newsagent reading it like you were in a chuffin libarary, the price hike might then not be nescessary!, and as for getting your news from this site, have you looked at the top of this page lately?..TRUCK & DRIVER, Yes thats right! the magazine you are putting down is the very magazine that helps support this site!!!
And another thing! (while I am still on me soapbox!), Not only is Dave Young the most active pro driver editor in the transport magazine business, but most of the contributors are professional drivers too!, so how would a magazine with that kind of ‘backup’ be anything but pro driver?..I mean what the hell do you think we all do for a living…wash dishes■■?
Who edits the T&D editor? The readers. Most of the stories and features come direct from them and if they don’t like something they let me know! (One simple rule, if I’m in the office I talk to readers who ring). T&D is their magazine, I’m just lucky enough to have custodianship.
Any price rise is a ■■■■■■■ unfortunately that’s a bean counter’s decision not mine, but it’s less than 5% over two years; in line with inflation. Only 25% of the mag is adverts, the revenue they earn helps keep the cover price below that of most magazines.
I take the point about being up to date but we’re a monthly mag with a tiny staff (3) and most items are written (by people either in or ex the trucking industry) 2/6 weeks before. That’s why, as Cliff points out elsewhere, we sponsor this thread.
Take the driver’s side? T&D is about people very bit as much as product. We broke and have pursued the Scania seats story, ditto the A556 speed cameras, the delays at docks and RDCs to name but a few. We tell it like it is and if that sometimes annoys truck manufacturers and costs us ads so be it; T&D remains 100% for drivers.
Read it in the newsagents if you must, but be aware it’s increasingly difficult to get motorway service areas and supermarkets - who’ve largely taken over from your friendly corner shop local newsagent - to stock ‘special interest’ publications. The fewer that are purchased the easier it is for them to decline to stock a ‘low-volume’ item.
Keep those constructive criticisms coming…
I take on board TK’s point about MSA’s and Supermarkets,as I have problems getting other mags that I read, (NO.not those ones!!!) So I either have to order them,or subscribe,which gets me a discount.
However,the goons that run this country,including former and future ones,will take about as much notice as a publication like T&D,as they will to a bigger voice,ie: the unions that are also to be supposed fighting the corner of the driver,so could this be why so many are leaving the industry?
I’m not having a go at mags like T&D or Commercial Motor etc,I used to enjoy them,it’s just that if everyone pooled their resources,then the industry that I have been in since I was 11,wouldn’t be in the state it is.But while there are many different factions 'Fighting for the driver,'or ‘100% for drivers,’ you’ve about as much chance as getting things done as you have platting fog.
Perhaps the French have the solution after all whereby they are united for a common cause.
Just got to add this,I now live in france with my wife and kids,yeah the french have it right but only for the french,you cant come to france and work for a french company the french look after the french,no bad thing to, 20years trucking,people talk a good fight but still have bills to pay,re:rates for the job
TK Dave,
My original post on this thread was meant in a light hearted way, just trying to bring a bit of humour into the forum, but as usual people tend to veer away from the original thread until it goes off on a totally different tangent as this one has. I have been a reader of T + D for many years and if I didnt like it I would stop buying it. I thought people would have seen the funny side of the topic, but I
ve obviously got a different sense of humour (I must have, because my partner keeps telling me so.) Anyway, keep up the good work, and I`ll keep buying the mag
Best Regards
Trev
PS. My second post was meant as a joke too (there I go again with my strange sense of humour)
But Trev, that’s the beauty of posting,you don’t know where it will end up!
I did notice the explanation for the price rise, having bought the magazine, and had a good chuckle(just settled our annual pay claim, 5 months late). But I’m a bit baffled by the tone of some of the critics when…
a) nobody forces them to buy a magazine, though the validity of the research must be questioned if the magazine hasn’t been read.
b) If they read the mag at the outlet hardly giving a fair review since it takes me about 3-4 hours to READ all the articles to get a fuller insight. Are they all speed readers?
c) the results to date of this trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=92
Nuff said
a) nobody forces them to buy a magazine, though the validity of the research must be questioned if the magazine hasn’t been read.
b) If they read the mag at the outlet hardly giving a fair review since it takes me about 3-4 hours to READ all the articles to get a fuller insight. Are they all speed readers?
c) the results to date of this trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=92
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we should think ourselves lucky that the price increase is decided then put into place immediately, just think of the problems if the price rise was backdated like most employers, we would get stung for 6 months of 10 pences in june.
truck and driver isn’t just an excellent read, the crosswords and competitions, including the kids corner and the photo page are also something you won’t find in any other truck press magazine.
dave young and truck and driver does support us drivers, when you have a problem that could affect other drivers and call them with the story they get on the case, i was wheel clamped this year at thurrock and called dave young, he called me back for details and printed the story and photo’s that i emailed to him upon my return to the uk, then featured further incidents and complaints by other drivers and followed up my own story when i sought others to come forward that had been clamped, i had 4 phone calls regarding this, one was actually another driver (claimed) complaining that i cannot read because there are signs up advising drivers not to park there and wheel clamping is in operation, this driver also claimed to have been clamped too.
the union (urtu) wouldn’t even put a warning to their members in the members’ magazine that goes out to all members (wheels).
well done dave, the best truck mag going.