“Quote” from the Goods Vehicle Operator Licensing Guide
From 4 December 2011, traffic commissioners
can take regulatory action against both
internal and external transport managers,
independently of any action they may decide
to take against the licence holder.
Declaration that a transport manager is
“unfit” to manage transport operations
At a public inquiry, a traffic commissioner
may decide that a transport manager is
unfit to oversee transport operations. If this
is the case, their Certificate of Professional Competence will no longer be valid in any EC Member State during any period of disqualification - ie they will not be able to work as a transport manager in the UK or any other EC Member State.
I’m just in the process of appling for an “O” Licence for someone, and whilst reading the Goods Vehicle Operator
Licensing Guide, under section 4, Transport Managers, the above information come to my attention.
It will not be long before, if you get a driving ban in any of the EU states, you will be Banned in all of them, was this
the original idea of the EU.
My understanding is that the separate authorities in each country have the ability to read O’licence and TMs records including infringements and bans since 4th Dec 2011.
I would assume they have (or are working on) access to DVLA records with regard to both vehicle and driver details.
JJSL:
It will not be long before, if you get a driving ban in any of the EU states, you will be Banned in all of them, was this
the original idea of the EU.
Is that not the case anyway? If you get a ban in the UK, your UK licence is not valid. Your UK license is what is recognised in the EU, and if it is not valid in the issuing country then it is not acceptable anywhere.
JJSL:
It will not be long before, if you get a driving ban in any of the EU states, you will be Banned in all of them, was this
the original idea of the EU.
Is that not the case anyway? If you get a ban in the UK, your UK licence is not valid. Your UK license is what is recognised in the EU, and if it is not valid in the issuing country then it is not acceptable anywhere.
Not quite right.
The UK only has mutual recognition regarding driving disqualifications with one other EU country which is Ireland.
You can drive in any country except the UK.
If you don’t have a licence in your posession, DVLA will happily fax a letter of entitlement to any country you wish.
Even the mutual recognition with Ireland isn’t that simple.
If you have an irish licence and get banned in the UK, Then you are banned in both countries providing the DVLA informs the NDLS in Ireland within 21 days of your conviction. and it’s the same if a UK licenced driver is disqualified in the republic.
However, If a UK or Irish licence holder is disqualifed in his home country, Then the mutual recognition dosn’t count.
They tried to and are still trying to bring in mutual recognition regarding driving licences throughout the entire EU, But the reason this hasn’t happened is because the sentencing in each state is so different.
For example: twice over the drink drive limit in the UK will probably mean a 2 year ban, Yet in Germany you’ll probably lose a months pay and get a 6 week ban.