Tramping - Money

straight question money wise.

I can earn about £600 a week not tramping. PAYE (Possibly more but I don’t want to do ADR or Argos in my area)
How much do you make tramping on average?

I think I could stomach tramping for £700+ a week. but that would probably be the bare minimum. Is that easily attainable?

Live in Essex.
You don’t have to give out company names as this is just something I wanna do for 3 - 4 months next year. Just curious atm.

I’d say the overwhelming majority of trampers don’t take home £700+ a week.

Yeah.
Run of the mill general haulage firm should see you between 750 and 850…all in.
Possibly more,for your area.

I was talking about top line

Not really any difference in pay.
Still paid by the hour expect to do as many hours as a day man.
Only difference is you get 25 a night out
But bear in mind out of that you have buy breakfast dinner and tea each day.
Be it from cafe takeaway or make your own still have buy the stuff.
But as others will point out if your out all week then your not using petrol every day travelling back and forth to work
Although if you work for a company that does paid parking and you get a meal voucher/free evening meal. Which helps I guess

Harry Monk:
I’d say the overwhelming majority of trampers don’t take home £700+ a week.

You including night out money in the £700 a week?

Not sure what it works out weekly, but ours earned between 45 - 54k pa, top line, excluding expenses which put money in by way of paying for food. That was before what would have been a 3% raise in April.

There was a slight saving to be made on top with expenses as well. We paid for dinner up to about £20.00. Often there was a hotel, most time breakfast was included. Whilst we didnt have a breakfast rate if it wasnt provided, we would overlook a receipt for coffee and a bacon butty. We paid a 5.00 a day meal allowance for lunch which was included in the top figure. Herts.

adam277:

Harry Monk:
I’d say the overwhelming majority of trampers don’t take home £700+ a week.

You including night out money in the £700 a week?

My figures include night out, but we didnt pay that if you were in a hotel and getting dinner on expenses.

Also it was tramping some weeks, not every week.

albion:
Not sure what it works out weekly, but ours earned between 45 - 54k pa, top line, excluding expenses which put money in by way of paying for food. That was before what would have been a 3% raise in April.

There was a slight saving to be made on top with expenses as well. We paid for dinner up to about £20.00. Often there was a hotel, most time breakfast was included. Whilst we didnt have a breakfast rate if it wasnt provided, we would overlook a receipt for coffee and a bacon butty. We paid a 5.00 a day meal allowance for lunch which was included in the top figure. Herts.

£5 for lunch , you’d struggle to buy a bag
Of chips for that , I’ve crossed you off
Of the firms I’d want to work forv

dozy:

albion:
Not sure what it works out weekly, but ours earned between 45 - 54k pa, top line, excluding expenses which put money in by way of paying for food. That was before what would have been a 3% raise in April.

There was a slight saving to be made on top with expenses as well. We paid for dinner up to about £20.00. Often there was a hotel, most time breakfast was included. Whilst we didnt have a breakfast rate if it wasnt provided, we would overlook a receipt for coffee and a bacon butty. We paid a 5.00 a day meal allowance for lunch which was included in the top figure. Herts.

£5 for lunch , you’d struggle to buy a bag
Of chips for that , I’ve crossed you off
Of the firms I’d want to work forv

Coincidentally I had a fish and chip lunch, cost 6.40 with a nice mug of tea. The tea was 90pence; I doubt the fish cost 50p.

But anyway dont worry, I’d have turned work away rather than employ you so we are both happy.

dozy:

albion:
Not sure what it works out weekly, but ours earned between 45 - 54k pa, top line, excluding expenses which put money in by way of paying for food. That was before what would have been a 3% raise in April.

There was a slight saving to be made on top with expenses as well. We paid for dinner up to about £20.00. Often there was a hotel, most time breakfast was included. Whilst we didnt have a breakfast rate if it wasnt provided, we would overlook a receipt for coffee and a bacon butty. We paid a 5.00 a day meal allowance for lunch which was included in the top figure. Herts.

£5 for lunch , you’d struggle to buy a bag
Of chips for that , I’ve crossed you off
Of the firms I’d want to work forv

As opposed to my zero £ lunch allowance.

No worries Dozy - today I got to quickly pop away at 3pm leaving the wagon on a bay to get a mcdonalds after waiting 4 hours to be tipped. I never got a proper break and hadn’t eaten since 4am when I had breakfast. And I consider myself working for a decentish firm.

It’s easy to slag off firms - but keep it real eh? Albion said she was paying her guys around £1k a week and putting them up in hotels when needed. It beats the dross me and you do if we are honest.

I may have enjoyed you sammy. Have to say may to keep you on your toes :laughing: :wink:

The rates and expenses Albion pays her drivers, is what most of us can only dream of!

Is it worth the OP going tramping for an extra £100 £150 per week on top line ?

Often tramping isn’t about the money. Personally I couldn’t bear doing days and then commuting back and forth. So for me it’s more a lifestyle choice. Plus the £25 allowance means I’m not chasing the hours.
Cat among the pigeons :smiley:
Must add no mortgage, cars paid for, owe nobody anything.

The main benefits of tramping aren’t really the extra few quid in your pocket. In most cases, hourly rates are about the same so the only difference is your night out money.
Instead, the main benefits of tramping are not having to commute to work every day, which can save a fair bit of money if you do a decent commute, not to mention the time spent in your car stuck in traffic. The second benefit is not having to stress or rush to get back to the yard, as you know you’re able to just park up and call it a night when you want. The main benefit I found though was the extra sleep! Instead of waking up at 04.30 to be in work for 6, on a night out I could wake up at 05.45.
As long as you park somewhere with or near basic facilities then tramping can actually be a great way to work.

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albion:

dozy:

albion:
Not sure what it works out weekly, but ours earned between 45 - 54k pa, top line, excluding expenses which put money in by way of paying for food. That was before what would have been a 3% raise in April.

There was a slight saving to be made on top with expenses as well. We paid for dinner up to about £20.00. Often there was a hotel, most time breakfast was included. Whilst we didnt have a breakfast rate if it wasnt provided, we would overlook a receipt for coffee and a bacon butty. We paid a 5.00 a day meal allowance for lunch which was included in the top figure. Herts.

£5 for lunch , you’d struggle to buy a bag
Of chips for that , I’ve crossed you off
Of the firms I’d want to work forv

Coincidentally I had a fish and chip lunch, cost 6.40 with a nice mug of tea. The tea was 90pence; I doubt the fish cost 50p.

But anyway dont worry, I’d have turned work away rather than employ you so we are both happy.

He ain happy unless he is in a layby with a bag of crisps

Don’t confuse wages received with subsistence pay (night out money) or other expenses, whether you’re a day/night shifter or tramper, unless those ex’s are writ in stone they are not part of your wages so not payable unless physically there, and unless you go self catering like the woefully underpaid eastern european drivers you’ll spend a good portion of your subsistence/ex’s to maintain yourself anyway.
I always ate well (whenever possible country pubs or Toby types) and went for a pint or two on nights out, if the wages themselves won’t cover a decent dinner a couple of pints and a breakfast next morn it isn’t worth doing.

A quoted wage here means the square root of bugger all, unless the person quoting also says how many hours and/or premium hours and days they are at work for that pay and what exactly that work consists of.

Some companies now insist on specific parking such as motorway service areas, well i couldn’t think of a worse bloody place to park a wagon and try and get some sleep, let alone the garbage supplied there laughing called food, so my previous night out system would not be allowed any more, though i never had anything stolen whilst parked.

Cookiemonster spot on

peirre:
The rates and expenses Albion pays her drivers, is what most of us can only dream of!

Only in haulage. In the 10 months I took out a couple of years ago to go work for a software company that made systems for amusement arcades and casinos they thought nothing of paying £125 a night for Premier Inns per person (if there were two of us on the job we’d each get our own room) including paying for the evening meal and breakfast and they would also reimburse us for any food and drinks we bought during the working day.

It is literally only transport who is so tight fisted.

Juddian:
A quoted wage here means the square root of bugger all, unless the person quoting also says how many hours and/or premium hours and days they are at work for that pay and what exactly that work consists of.

This. My lad takes home £600 a week but he’s running max hours and that includes his night out money. I take home £500 a week doing 50hrs and home every day.