gsm31:
Between 5 and 5.5 hours.
That’s quite some time to keep up intense concentration for a lot of trainees.
I did rigid 2-1 and artic 2-1 also… At the time I thought “■■■■ thats half the time for me to learn” but it paid off in the end and relaxes you and sometimes shows you that your not as bad or as good as the next learner and you can actually learn from there good driving or from tehre mistakes…
I’m a 2 to 1 enthusiast too, I was sceptical at first but having done both on my C course, I found 2 to 1 more relaxing, I made less mistakes and the breaks were informative, observing my fellow trainee drive.
1 to 1 is very intensive and perhaps not for everybody.
Tockwith Traioning wrote:-
the good old 1-to-1 or 2-to-1 debate. Firstly though let’s get a few things straight. Companies offering 2-to-1 generate more profit
Not the main reason for offering 2 to 1 in a lot of cases. If a training school has say a one hour drive to the city they test at, it is much fairer if there are two trainees, so that each one only drives one way. If you have 1 to 1 then 2 hours of the day can simply be taken up with travelling to and from the test area.
Also I fail to see how more profit is generated when each trainee gets the time driving they have paid for and as a bonus gets time to observe the other trainee and also familiarise themselves with the roads that they will be testing on whilst not under pressure to actually drive as well. It is also possible to split driving up into 2 hour blocks, which in many instances helps trainees rather than having to concentrate for 4 hours at a stretch.
What about the trainers ability to part information and advice over such long periods.
I know from experience that anything above say 6 hours ,and quality of instruction will suffer. Teaching driving is not an easy task.
It’s not like teaching in a clasroom.
Information and concentration can be measured in 20 to 45 minute sessions any more and the brain can go into overload, where nothing is gained.
How would an 8 hour training session for LGV students be managed on a 1 21 basis?
How would the trainer be able to sustain interest and that learning has took place over such a time scale?
Rest assured the trainers ability to train far exceeds the trainees ability to learn, even if its 2 to 1. Well thats my experience of course. True sometimes I know i’ve done a days work sometimes, when I have had a ‘trying’ trainee or 2!
chippy:
How would an 8 hour training session for LGV students be managed on a 1 2 1 basis?How would the trainer be able to sustain interest and that learning has took place over such a time scale?
The trainee wil usually have stopped learning about the 4 to 4 1/2 hours of ‘accumilated time behind the wheel’ point - the brain can only take so much.
The instructor then has to stop them from driving - no concentration - too dangerous
ROG:
chippy:
How would an 8 hour training session for LGV students be managed on a 1 2 1 basis?How would the trainer be able to sustain interest and that learning has took place over such a time scale?
The trainee wil usually have stopped learning about the 4 to 4 1/2 hours of ‘accumilated time behind the wheel’ point - the brain can only take so much.
The instructor then has to stop them from driving - no concentration - too dangerous
When i did my LGV crash course (not literally 
) I only had 4 hour sessions 12:30-4:30 for 5 days’s, and that was one on one.
Full day would be too much like ROG said you cant take it all in… as one day early on i was trying to get truck into 3rd gear for a steep hill start forgetting it was a 4/4 and i was in high oops because it was end of day and had taken so much in !!! lol.