The-Snowman:
nightline:
If you’re part of the uk you are English simple they might believe they think they are not but they areBy a country mile, that is by far the stupidest thing ive seen posted in a long long time
Try telling that to sturgeon and her mob 
dieseldog999:
The-Snowman:
nightline:
If you’re part of the uk you are English simple they might believe they think they are not but they areBy a country mile, that is by far the stupidest thing ive seen posted in a long long time
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so we now know that you have dozy,chester and jts on your block list then??
I dont have anyone on my block list and given the competition by the three you mentioned alone I think it says a lot about how stupid his comment actually is! 
The-Snowman:
dieseldog999:
The-Snowman:
nightline:
If you’re part of the uk you are English simple they might believe they think they are not but they areBy a country mile, that is by far the stupidest thing ive seen posted in a long long time
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so we now know that you have dozy,chester and jts on your block list then??I dont have anyone on my block list and given the competition by the three you mentioned alone I think it says a lot about how stupid his comment actually is!
I love em all.
Dozy is harmless whether genuine or not.
Chester is…well just Chester bless him.
jts?..Surely you mean ETS, the guy who digs himself holes he never gets out of, and is blissfully unaware of how much of a ■■■■ he comes across to everyone on here.
No block list for me, I just like attracting them.
Anyhow…serious face back on, back to thread subject…
nightline:
If you’re part of the uk you are English simple they might believe they think they are not but they are
No wonder alien life hasn’t contacted us yet.
Oh, they have already - there are some on this very forum 
Socketset:
Oh, they have already - there are some on this very forum
That would help explain the un-intelligible messages coming out of Leatherhead I suppose.
before the no fun police come along and lock the thread for being way off topic,then heres me post from the other thread,so cop for this and let the debate continue…
hopefully this cant be misconstrued as racist as it dont matter what race or country the illegals come from.
if they were videoed scurrying out of the back of a trailer in england,then the outcry would deem them as ilegals,migrants,or the more favoured by the media ,clandestines?
the first guilty ones are the ones who decided happily to request to be illegally trafficked into the uk ( a criminal act), nobody forced then when its been shown that they paid £20 and £30k a pop to get lifted.
the next lot of criminals being the friends and family who happily paid money to known criminals for them to be smuggled illegaly obviously knowing they were paying criminals,( another criminal act).
the next lot are the criminals who traffic any commodities for cash.
after that comes the lot from the uk/n.i or eire that organise and assist ( no doubt the balaclava brigade on one side or the other) with the fall guys being the drivers at the bottom of the chain of criminals.
every single one of the aforementioned are criminals irrespective of for what reason or situation makes them do what they do.
if they are all so poverty stricken,then where did the 20 and 30k cash come from to pay for their journeys,and why dont the ones that got it refunded get arrested to explain where the massive amounts of cash came from?
this lot happened to die in the trailer,not the first time its happened,and it wont be the last.
since woody/mo got caught at essex,theres been another nine dragged out after coming out of dover this time alive, so its never going to stop until france looks after its own borders,or until the uk stops being the land of honey to illegals.
they are now opening a revamped prison ship in ghent to attempt to deal with the latest swarming influx of illegals and as you can imagine its highly likely they want to stop in belgium so once again the uk is the target from there.
the ones that are here have to pay never ending payents to repay the criminals that they arranged transport on penalty of harm coming to their familys abroad so any money they recieve from the uk goes out of the country without the uk economy seeing any of it.
the fact that this lot all died instantly,then the media makes out it was 39 equivelants to mother theresa where in reality they were no better or worse than the axle huggers you see running away every working day around england ferry routes and absolutely every day in their hundreds swarming around french ports.
the more france lets through,then the less france needs to care with the bonus of shafting the uk.
im assuming that this is an accurate description without the race card being played as nobody seems to pick up on the facts of this.
Franglais:
chester:
Franglais:
Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load securityI have, and nowhere does it say DVSA are happy that if you can’t check your load, it’s ok as long as you know who loaded it.
"Involve drivers in the loading process if possible
If the drivers do not load the vehicle ideally they should be given the opportunity to observe the competent person loading the vehicle.If it’s not appropriate for the drivers to watch the loading then they should be given information about how the load has been secured and/or given the chance to check the load prior to departure."
gov.uk/government/publicati … r-guidanceSame page refers to
op.europa.eu/en/publication-det … 34b43edd7e
p11.
"Respnsibilities/Actions related to driving
- visual inspection of the outside of the vehicle and of the cargo if accessible to check for evident unsafe situations
…- regular checks of cargo securing during the transport journey as far as accessible"
Highlights are mine.
This is in addition to the excellent posts and links of Muckles.
Post as many guidelines as you want
Guidelines are not a legal standing.
Please read code of practice 1:4 this is where a court, judge and jury would look into regards of prosecuting a driver, in regard of a load
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … hicles.pdf
chester:
Franglais:
chester:
Franglais:
Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load securityI have, and nowhere does it say DVSA are happy that if you can’t check your load, it’s ok as long as you know who loaded it.
"Involve drivers in the loading process if possible
If the drivers do not load the vehicle ideally they should be given the opportunity to observe the competent person loading the vehicle.If it’s not appropriate for the drivers to watch the loading then they should be given information about how the load has been secured and/or given the chance to check the load prior to departure."
gov.uk/government/publicati … r-guidanceSame page refers to
op.europa.eu/en/publication-det … 34b43edd7e
p11.
"Respnsibilities/Actions related to driving
- visual inspection of the outside of the vehicle and of the cargo if accessible to check for evident unsafe situations
…- regular checks of cargo securing during the transport journey as far as accessible"
Highlights are mine.
This is in addition to the excellent posts and links of Muckles.
Post as many guidelines as you want
Guidelines are not a legal standing.
Please read code of practice 1:4 this is where a court, judge and jury would look into regards of prosecuting a driver, in regard of a load
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … hicles.pdf
you have been going on about this for a week now, ffs give it a rest.
gingo:
you have been going on about this for a week now, ffs give it a rest.
Pipe down Karen
If folk didn’t post query’s on where they are falling foul, then I wouldn’t have any need to reply.
Go and educate yourself on how a Internet forum works.
Why are you even here?
Just to destroy British propaganda
Mo Robinson is a loyalist scumbag who was the willing driver murdering the people he was highly paid for to smuggle into Britain
Robinson is a well known loyalist with dealings towards the DUP/UDA yet the British media with its usual racism towards Ireland claim hes Irish
On his Facebook page Mo proudly tells his followers he is proud to be British
chester:
Franglais:
chester:
Franglais:
Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load securityI have, and nowhere does it say DVSA are happy that if you can’t check your load, it’s ok as long as you know who loaded it.
"Involve drivers in the loading process if possible
If the drivers do not load the vehicle ideally they should be given the opportunity to observe the competent person loading the vehicle.If it’s not appropriate for the drivers to watch the loading then they should be given information about how the load has been secured and/or given the chance to check the load prior to departure."
gov.uk/government/publicati … r-guidanceSame page refers to
op.europa.eu/en/publication-det … 34b43edd7e
p11.
"Respnsibilities/Actions related to driving
- visual inspection of the outside of the vehicle and of the cargo if accessible to check for evident unsafe situations
…- regular checks of cargo securing during the transport journey as far as accessible"
Highlights are mine.
This is in addition to the excellent posts and links of Muckles.
Post as many guidelines as you want
Guidelines are not a legal standing.
Please read code of practice 1:4 this is where a court, judge and jury would look into regards of prosecuting a driver, in regard of a load
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … hicles.pdf
Good point. Good link.
All the arguments about breaking seals or not gets very confusing for some .
In most circumstances the rules are put in place by companies, they tend to reject loads with broken seals , that is nothing to do with laws or international regulations it just company rules , not just due to suspicion of theft but also of tampering or contamination especially if the load is something like foodstuffs or its ingredients.
Many sealed containers or trailers do get opened at ports or borders by immigration or customs , they do not give a hoot about company policy or practices, if they want it open it will be opened and usually searched/ inspected .
If I ever had any doubts about a load it got opened and checked , if I was told not to open anything that I had doubts about the bona-fides of who or how it was loaded I just refused to take it .
Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk
grumpyken52:
All the arguments about breaking seals or not gets very confusing for some .
In most circumstances the rules are put in place by companies, they tend to reject loads with broken seals , that is nothing to do with laws or international regulations it just company rules , not just due to suspicion of theft but also of tampering or contamination especially if the load is something like foodstuffs or its ingredients.
Many sealed containers or trailers do get opened at ports or borders by immigration or customs , they do not give a hoot about company policy or practices, if they want it open it will be opened and usually searched/ inspected .
If I ever had any doubts about a load it got opened and checked , if I was told not to open anything that I had doubts about the bona-fides of who or how it was loaded I just refused to take it .Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk
+1
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spoken like a true experienced " proper lorry driver " like myself and most others on here.
looks like its not going to well for chester once more.
will it be
1 ignore it and continue to frantically flog it to death?
2 throw the head up and do a flounce off into the sunset?
3 ignore it for a while,then batter straight back on as if there was never a reply.
the jurys out sofar…
i think it will all depend on what profession he decides to pursue after leaving school. 
chester:
Franglais:
chester:
Franglais:
Is your Google broke?
Dvsa load securityI have, and nowhere does it say DVSA are happy that if you can’t check your load, it’s ok as long as you know who loaded it.
"Involve drivers in the loading process if possible
If the drivers do not load the vehicle ideally they should be given the opportunity to observe the competent person loading the vehicle.If it’s not appropriate for the drivers to watch the loading then they should be given information about how the load has been secured and/or given the chance to check the load prior to departure."
gov.uk/government/publicati … r-guidanceSame page refers to
op.europa.eu/en/publication-det … 34b43edd7e
p11.
"Respnsibilities/Actions related to driving
- visual inspection of the outside of the vehicle and of the cargo if accessible to check for evident unsafe situations
…- regular checks of cargo securing during the transport journey as far as accessible"
Highlights are mine.
This is in addition to the excellent posts and links of Muckles.
Post as many guidelines as you want
Guidelines are not a legal standing.
Please read code of practice 1:4 this is where a court, judge and jury would look into regards of prosecuting a driver, in regard of a load
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … hicles.pdf
But you just posted the same guidelines that I posted, stating that’s where Court judge and jury would look in regards of prosecution, but in the same post said the guidelines are not legal standing!
Surely if one part of the guidelines are relevant in law so is all of it?
Of course the truth is the guidelines could be used by either the proscecution or defence, to show that agreed procedures were or were not followed but the court has to refer to the laws on this, in particular Section 40a of the road traffic act 1988, this states that its an offence to use, permit or cause, thst means all those involved could be liable.