Is it just me,or do you find them a tadd rude on the road,for example,i have never seen one wait while it is my turn or other road users to pass a long line of parked cars,the cider drinking apple crunchers just do not stop and foot down to hell with what is in front of my big new shiny tractor that the bank owns. The size of what they are towing seems to be getting longer every year,with two to three pieces of equipment in tow,that does not appear to be that safe,im not an expert in Vosas outlook with their dodgy loads ■■■■■■■ with old rope and baler twine.
It seems VOSA are to follow Germany and Belgium,with their load restraint laws,for some goods to be more secure,they will target tautliners looking for hidden loads,and view the side of the trailer not to have any restraint on the load,it is merely weather protection in their eyes.
They will be looking for those loads that will go through the cab in a sudden braking action,like the Scotish firms hauling oil/gas pipes and all the kit that goes with that aspect.Headboards will not protect the cab,it is too narrow.
toby1234abc:
Is it just me,or do you find them a tadd rude on the road,for example,i have never seen one wait while it is my turn or other road users to pass a long line of parked cars,the cider drinking apple crunchers just do not stop and foot down to hell with what is in front of my big new shiny tractor that the bank owns. The size of what they are towing seems to be getting longer every year,with two to three pieces of equipment in tow,that does not appear to be that safe,im not an expert in Vosas outlook with their dodgy loads ■■■■■■■ with old rope and baler twine.
It seems VOSA are to follow Germany and Belgium,with their load restraint laws,for some goods to be more secure,they will target tautliners looking for hidden loads,and view the side of the trailer not to have any restraint on the load,it is merely weather protection in their eyes.
They will be looking for those loads that will go through the cab in a sudden braking action,like the Scotish firms hauling oil/gas pipes and all the kit that goes with that aspect.Headboards will not protect the cab,it is too narrow.
Might be me (normally is) but the bit highlighted in red can surely be read that those parked cars are on your side of the road. So in order to pass them you would have to cause on coming traffic (in this case a tractor) to slow, stop or change direction even thou they have right of way? Therefore, why are you more important than the oncoming traffic?
Numpty post
I mean when it is my right of way they do not wait for me or the rest of the traffic.It is like they have not seen me.
How come farms are 20miles+ from the fields■■?
I thought tractors were just for fields not for popping to tesco? 
You have a good point,never see a poor farmer,with the Range Rover in the gravelled drive,he will always say he had a bad year,and you have to cry your eyes out for him.
yawn,this has been done to death ages ago 
Kind of two topics in one there.
I have no issues with tractors, they often pull over so i can pass if not i just overtake.
Rope is far superior when it comes to securing loads than any rachet strap, you ask any proper driver about that and they’ll tell you the same.
I work for a farmer who runs five trucks aswell and it wasnt until i actually spoke to them about what things cost to grow etc and the profit thats made.You would actually be quite suprised.Tractors are not governed by vosa but i agree they should be.The weight limit for a tractor and two axle trailer is 24,390 but most will be running around at 28 tonnes.They are only supposed to run within so many miles of the farm on red aswell but a lot dont change to white.Dual wheels are also illegal on the road but nothing ever gets done about it.We could go on forever
Saaamon:
Rope is far superior when it comes to securing loads than any rachet strap, you ask any proper driver about that and they’ll tell you the same.
Yes , I agree on certain loads it is but now Vosa are they experts on loading aren’t they and years of experience counts for nothing.
Aren’t they (tractors) only supposed to do a certain amount of miles on public roads a year as they don’t pay road tax.
No road tax, car licence and you can drive it all day and nite ,7.5 tonnes weight limit that we cann`t go down they can, damage to the road with unfriendly road suspension well we pay for that, Oh I feel better now 
JC55:
Oh I feel better now
Yep, I’m not surprised; that’s a good load of crap you’ve got rid of there. 
Said this before but for the benefit of those of you with goldfish memories; most of the ones mentioned in the OP’s tedious and predictable rant belong to contractors not farmers, and they travel from farm to farm. That is why they go on the roads for a distance; how else are they supposed to do it, hire a bloody Chinook and fly them? Because the kit is big ( a consequence of having bigger fields ) it’s not so suited to traversing back lanes so it’s often a case of having to use main roads. Sorry if this inconveniences some of you; of course we could always import more of our food instead of growing it ourselves, then there’d be no rich farmers for you to ■■■■■ about either.
I probably see more than most of you given the area I work in and the job I do, and it’s not very often you see stuff fall off their trailers. That kit they’re carrying isn’t cheap either, so it’s in their interest to make sure it’s secure or they’ve got no work.
And Toby, before you start calling farmers take a look at yourself in the mirror. Most of your posts tend to suggest more than a passing affinity with a cider bottle.
For the record, a lot of the farmers I know have HGV licences. That means that they could do your job. I’d love to give you a week on a Welsh hill farm and see how well you could cope with theirs. You wouldn’t last five minutes.
gnasty gnome:
JC55:
Oh I feel better nowYep, I’m not surprised; that’s a good load of crap you’ve got rid of there.
Said this before but for the benefit of those of you with goldfish memories; most of the ones mentioned in the OP’s tedious and predictable rant belong to contractors not farmers, and they travel from farm to farm. That is why they go on the roads for a distance; how else are they supposed to do it, hire a bloody Chinook and fly them? Because the kit is big ( a consequence of having bigger fields ) it’s not so suited to traversing back lanes so it’s often a case of having to use main roads. Sorry if this inconveniences some of you; of course we could always import more of our food instead of growing it ourselves, then there’d be no rich farmers for you to ■■■■■ about either.
I probably see more than most of you given the area I work in and the job I do, and it’s not very often you see stuff fall off their trailers. That kit they’re carrying isn’t cheap either, so it’s in their interest to make sure it’s secure or they’ve got no work.
And Toby, before you start calling farmers take a look at yourself in the mirror. Most of your posts tend to suggest more than a passing affinity with a cider bottle.
For the record, a lot of the farmers I know have HGV licences. That means that they could do your job. I’d love to give you a week on a Welsh hill farm and see how well you could cope with theirs. You wouldn’t last five minutes.
Totally agree with you there.My opinion of farmers has changed now i work for one!
Bud143:
gnasty gnome:
JC55:
Oh I feel better nowYep, I’m not surprised; that’s a good load of crap you’ve got rid of there.
Said this before but for the benefit of those of you with goldfish memories; most of the ones mentioned in the OP’s tedious and predictable rant belong to contractors not farmers, and they travel from farm to farm. That is why they go on the roads for a distance; how else are they supposed to do it, hire a bloody Chinook and fly them? Because the kit is big ( a consequence of having bigger fields ) it’s not so suited to traversing back lanes so it’s often a case of having to use main roads. Sorry if this inconveniences some of you; of course we could always import more of our food instead of growing it ourselves, then there’d be no rich farmers for you to ■■■■■ about either.
I probably see more than most of you given the area I work in and the job I do, and it’s not very often you see stuff fall off their trailers. That kit they’re carrying isn’t cheap either, so it’s in their interest to make sure it’s secure or they’ve got no work.
And Toby, before you start calling farmers take a look at yourself in the mirror. Most of your posts tend to suggest more than a passing affinity with a cider bottle.
For the record, a lot of the farmers I know have HGV licences. That means that they could do your job. I’d love to give you a week on a Welsh hill farm and see how well you could cope with theirs. You wouldn’t last five minutes.
Totally agree with you there.My opinion of farmers has changed now i work for one!
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every tractor I manage to overtake has a young lad in the driving seat, the young ones dont seem to realise that they should pull over every now and again to let the traffic past, the old drivers always pull over at every chance and let people past.
If tractors are moving from farm to farm then low loaders are the way to go
Yup many of the guys on those tractors have C+E (many doing agency or casual work when its quiet, October-March (NVZ regs 
), the kit they use is at least the same cost as a unit and trailer and the operators handle a hell of a lot more complex and varied kit than any LGV.
Im not to sure who your refering to as my name isnt toby but maybe you feel a bit of an expert in your part of the country my point based on my experience is a little different its just a point of view and it appears ours differ. 
They should be made to do a test rather than just driving on a car license.Tractors dont have to pull over but i agree they should to keep folk happy.As for low loaders they should pull one behind the tractor for big discs etc but its not always that easy.Where are they supposed leave them whilst working in the field? Until you have done the job you dont really have a clue.Just more know it all that think they know everything about everything.
bubsy06:
Bud143:
gnasty gnome:
JC55:
Oh I feel better nowYep, I’m not surprised; that’s a good load of crap you’ve got rid of there.
Said this before but for the benefit of those of you with goldfish memories; most of the ones mentioned in the OP’s tedious and predictable rant belong to contractors not farmers, and they travel from farm to farm. That is why they go on the roads for a distance; how else are they supposed to do it, hire a bloody Chinook and fly them? Because the kit is big ( a consequence of having bigger fields ) it’s not so suited to traversing back lanes so it’s often a case of having to use main roads. Sorry if this inconveniences some of you; of course we could always import more of our food instead of growing it ourselves, then there’d be no rich farmers for you to ■■■■■ about either.
I probably see more than most of you given the area I work in and the job I do, and it’s not very often you see stuff fall off their trailers. That kit they’re carrying isn’t cheap either, so it’s in their interest to make sure it’s secure or they’ve got no work.
And Toby, before you start calling farmers take a look at yourself in the mirror. Most of your posts tend to suggest more than a passing affinity with a cider bottle.
For the record, a lot of the farmers I know have HGV licences. That means that they could do your job. I’d love to give you a week on a Welsh hill farm and see how well you could cope with theirs. You wouldn’t last five minutes.
Totally agree with you there.My opinion of farmers has changed now i work for one!
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every tractor I manage to overtake has a young lad in the driving seat, the young ones dont seem to realise that they should pull over every now and again to let the traffic past, the old drivers always pull over at every chance and let people past.
If tractors are moving from farm to farm then low loaders are the way to go
There posts someone who has absolutely no idea as to what is involved. That tractor and trailer is possibly part of a team possibly over 15 drivers and machines moving stuff from field to farm over maybe 17 miles of public road, forestry track and farm track. teams are pulled together for particular jobs some may only require
mower
rake
chopper
3x 14T trailers
buckrake
I’ve been on some jobs with a long run from field to pit which had 2 teams each with 14 trailers 
where do you get the low loaders for that lot?
As to pulling in, where?!? all the laybys (if there are any) are full of LGV drivers on their 45
JC55:
Im not to sure who your refering to as my name isnt toby but maybe you feel a bit of an expert in your part of the country my point based on my experience is a little different its just a point of view and it appears ours differ.
Toby’s the OP. I couldn’t be bothered to quote his posts, no point in duplicating bull ■■■■. As to different parts of the country; are you therefore saying that licence requirements differ in Wales?
chicane:
where do you get the low loaders for that lot?As to pulling in, where?!? all the laybys (if there are any) are full of LGV drivers on their 45
Agree with chicane.
More to the point; where would you load them? Field’s a no-no, you’d never get the low-loader off without a tractor and you’ve just put that on the trailer. So you load them on the road and create another hazard? And then you’ve got to park the low-loader up somewhere else.
Gentlemen, just think it through please. Those tractor drivers are doing a job like we are; joe public hate them as much as they do us. They’re not taking work from us either despite all the bull on here to the contrary; our lorries aren’t suitable for going into fields, and from the tone of most of the posts on this forum there are very few “professional HGV drivers” who would willingly do that sort of work anyway. In fact they’re giving us work; without them there’d be no tractors or tractor parts for us to deliver, nor as much fuel oil. We wouldn’t be hauling bulk feeds in and out of mills either, or food to RDC’s; the list is endless.
Tractor drivers, especially contractors, earn their money and earn it hard. No doubt there are some ignorant buggers amongst them just as there are ignorant lorry drivers. We complain enough about people tarring all of us with the same brush; so why do it to others?