Totally screwed again!

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the EU are total [zb]s!

This really boils my ■■■■.
So we’re in Europe and have to do what they say eh?

So why the ■■■■ do I see diesel on the French motorways at E1.45, about £ 1.16 a litre?

Either we’re in Europe and we all pay the same, or we’re not in Europe and they can shove all their bull ■■■■ rules up their brackets.

When are these A holes in charge of our country gonna stop ripping us off?

Kin David Cameron, promises this, promises that, delivers absolutely F all.
I hope his next ■■■■ is a hedgehog.

EU AVERAGE fuel prices today:

Petrol 1.53 Euro (£1.22)
Diesel 1.44 Euro (£1.15)

These are TAX INCLUSIVE prices.
Taken from here: energy.eu/

It’s E1.24 (£0.99) a litle for Diesel in Luxembourg.
Oh aye, I forgot that Luxembourg has extensive oilfields in the North Sea, together with refineries right along their coastline :unamused:

So come on, if we’re in Europe, where’s the benefit to us?
I agree with giving Ireland a bail-out loan, that’s in our countries interest, trade wise.
But WTF have we give Greece so many billions in an un-secured loan for?
Just because we’re in Europe, and Brussells say we have to?

Get a ■■■■■■ grip.

Charity starts at home. Sort it out.

cieranc:
I agree with giving Ireland a bail-out loan, that’s in our countries interest, trade wise.

If you reckon its right then i’m sure it is. But how it is totally eludes me. If Ireland was removed from the Atlantic overnight, it might mean no Guiness,Caffreys,Magners etc for us but i could see any British company closed on the strenght of them going missing !! Might be a few EU factories have to reduce production and lay off staff, but i doubt it would affect Britain per se.

It’s not in “our country’s” interest at all. This was always a complete lie. It’s our BANKS who think they are Mammon himself deciding that the world would be a much worse place if they all went ■■■■ up because we’ve stopped giving them our money. Even on the news this week, we are seeing the latest conspiracies on how banks can nick more of our money in charges, even if you don’t go overdrawn, etc.

The only way to stop the music and get off is to withdraw all your savings, and convert the lot into metals, only keeping enough in cash for day-to-day needs.

All the time people leave their money in the same old place as it’s been for decades, they can’t very well moan about how the banks treat them.

It’s like being an MP in places like Kensington - If you’re wearing a blue rosette, you could be a ■■■■■■■■■■ ex-al quaeda local conman and STILL get elected as MP - because the locals are too slothful to make any changes to their status quo as they see it!

How long would it take the entire UK population to starve if all transport firms disappeared overnight? - Compare that to how quick it would take us to starve if all banks disappeared overnight.

With banks gone, we’d just be forced to use cash for everything, and not to extend credit anymore. With transport gone, food would rot in the warehouses, assuming that some armed citizens have not already burgled the place, and killed everyone within for their next hot meals.

Law and order needs goods and supplies rather than credit and paperwork!

If your bank potentially going bust tomorrow would leave you worse off, then it’s time to quit that bank account methinks. Only having neither savings or debts leaves you immune to the engineering shenanigans constantly carped-at by the banks. Don’t trust the so-called “savings guarantees” as they won’t be worth jack if and when the day comes when everyone wants to be bailed out at once!

In 2010, 6.9% of Britains exports went to Ireland compared to less than 1 % for Greece.
The same year 4.1% of Britains imports came from Ireland.
Any company in Britain is only going to export something to Ireland if it makes them money.
That much trade with Ireland is healthy for the British economy.
The value of the 2010 exports to Ireland is £15.3 billion, yet we paid the EU the same amount in the same year, some of which was used for the Ireland bail-out. More of it will have been used to bail-out Greece, from which we won’t see a return, and now it looks like Greece are leaving the Euro-zone. Just brilliant, that’s our money well spent then :smiling_imp: .

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This is YOUR tax the government are ■■■■■■■ away.
When you see how much tax is taken off you each payday, you can take comfort that Greece is doing OK out of it.

The EU can just ■■■■ right off.

The UK’s Direct Contributions to the 2007-2013 EU Budget in £ Billions:

2007 Actual UK Contribution to EU £13.060 Amount of EU money spent in UK £5.325
2008 Actual UK Contribution to EU £13.334 Amount of EU money spent in UK £5.736
2009 Actual UK Contribution to EU £14.779 Amount of EU money spent in UK £5.467
2010 Estd. UK Contribution to EU £15.247 Est. of EU money to be spent in UK £4.935*
2011 Estd. UK Contribution to EU £15.717 Est. of EU money to be spent in UK £4.832*
2012 Estd. UK Contribution to EU £16.204 Est. of EU money to be spent in UK £4.966*
2013 Estd. UK Contribution to EU £17.385 Est. of EU money to be spent in UK £5.169*

2007 - 2009 actual figures taken from Office of National Statistics Pink Book.
*2010 - 2013 figures taken from HM Treasury estimates.

About time this country got the ■■■■ right out of the EU.
What exactly are we getting in return?
How much longer can we afford to subsidise Hungary, Greece and Bulgaria?

On top of that, we pay huge amounts of money directly to seperate EU initiatives:
About 4.5 bil a year for the fisheries policy, the result of which is that we can’t fish in our own waters, yet the French can, the fish shortage means we’re importing fish from france that were caught in our waters. WTF is that all about ■■?
Yet the EU will argue we’ve increased trade with France by ■■■ amount.
Yeah, but if we just told France to F off, we could catch our own fish in our own waters, saving exactly the same amount of import trade, being better off financially and keeping more UK fishing jobs and knock-on marine jobs in the process.

We pay about 15 bil a year to the Farming scheme.
Do we get anywhere near 15b in return , do we ■■■■. Some of it goes into telling our farmers what set-aside they can have and how much they can plant, but most of the money goes to subsidise in-efficient farmers in Eastern Europe still using ox and carts.
How about we don’t pay the EU 15 bil a year, we have our own set-aside subsidies (our farmers recieve nowhere near 15b a year), the country would be better off and we’d control the markets ourselves.
Was only a couple of years ago, there was grain being IMPORTED into this country, because it was cheaper from the EU. Yeah, it’s cheaper because WE’RE subsidising it :smiling_imp: . At the same time farms here were closing because they couldn’t sell their grain at a good enough price. Makes me sick.
Why not stop paying the EU the farm subsidy, use British grain in Britain. Thereby keeping more farming jobs and knock-on engineering jobs.

And since this self-inflicted recession hit the world, which two coutries are now more profitable than ever?
Norway and Switzerland, two countries not in the EU.

Is this a rant?

It looks like a rant. However, it also looks like valid points.

Dont forget, there WAS NOT a common fisheries policy before we joined (Together with Ireland and Denmark with Norway intending to join but the people of Norway smelled the bovine excrement their politicians were feeding them… twice).
I bet the rest of the EU doesnt ratify this crap

No, at the time the fisheries comission was set up, Britain had only just joined the then EEC.
At that time, we had little negotiating power, we pretty much surrendered the rights to our territorial waters, and let the EEC decide who fished them.
It’s not a secret that the politicians at that time lied to the House of Commons about the merits of the scheme.

There have never been any properly accurate figures for catches caught in our waters since, because all catches are classed as being in EU waters, not GB waters.

What happens when the French have a poor fishing season?
They have a few riots, blockade the ports for a few days and cause general chaos.
So to keep them happy, the EU allow them further into British, sorry, EU waters to fish, simultaneously cutting our fishing areas.

Won’t be long before we’re not allowed to fish the Channel or North sea at all, it’ll all be foreign boats fishing our coast line.
And we’ll be paying a higher price for the imported fish.

Time and time again, this country just bends over and takes it.

If the UK stopped paying the EU subsidies, this country would be much better off financially.
It could afford to reduce the fuel duty considerably, and still have plenty of money left in the kitty.

Take the actual figures above for 2009:
We paid 14.8b into the EU but recieved 5.5b from the EU.
If we invested that 5.5b directly into the business’ s, development schemes, community projects and charities that benefitted from EU handouts, without the EU’s intervention, then the country would be £9.3 billion better off, for that year.

£9.3 billion equates to £147 for every man, woman and child in the UK.

The only situation the UK would benefit from the EU scheme would be if we found ourselves insolvent, then we’d probably recieve bail-outs, as per Greece and Ireland.
But if things get that bad, who’s going to bail us out? There’ll only be Germany left, and we can’t have that :smiley:

It’s not likely we’ll run out of money, after all we’ve got enough to pay the EU billions a year, so we can afford it :blush:

Can anyone guess what the UK’s 2nd biggest export is… ■■?

Petrol.

cieranc:
In 2010, 6.9% of Britains exports went to Ireland compared to less than 1 % for Greece.
The same year 4.1% of Britains imports came from Ireland.
Any company in Britain is only going to export something to Ireland if it makes them money.
That much trade with Ireland is healthy for the British economy.
The value of the 2010 exports to Ireland is £15.3 billion, yet we paid the EU the same amount in the same year, some of which was used for the Ireland bail-out. More of it will have been used to bail-out Greece, from which we won’t see a return, and now it looks like Greece are leaving the Euro-zone. Just brilliant, that’s our money well spent then :smiling_imp: .

I wouldn’t get to fixated on Irish imports or exports. A lot of it is fiddled statistics at best. Lets not forget the whole of Eire (including the North) has a population of just under 7 mil, roughly a tenth of Britains population. Add to that fact a lot of EU fiddle going on with trailers of goods going back and forth, no borders to speak of between NI and Ireland and rest of Britain and its hard to grasp any accurate figure other than what someone wants to present to you.
Whats unclear also is how they measure Britains imports to Ireland. Does that include EU imports to Ireland that have transited through Britain, probably on a foreign truck and thus no value to British economy but counted as such? How are they measuring it?

Yep!! Ye can have this Paver back that Seamus stole back in 1989! We have finished the M50 now!! :laughing:

I am seriously surprised that not one single person/group, has attempted to blow up both of the EU parliaments.
We are not the only nation opposed to much of what these cretins do to us :imp: