merc0447:
This could happen to any driver on this board with decent pay and conditions. You’ve got a decent salary 28k + with decent hours 48-50hrs, hours that resemble what normal folk work and boom tinlker comes along slings a £7.20 contract on the table and says hey if you want to earn the same you need to work 60-70 hours a week now
I work to live not live to work. I dont want to work mental hours to earn a decent living. I know tesco are the baddys here with their 1 billion profits but stobarts are born and breed for this sort of nasty business.
rate cutters now wage cutters!
so i take it when your car insurance renewal comes through, you just pay it and don’t shop about to get a cheaper rate rate cutting is day one of business school fella and before dinner at that
everybody that’s in their right mind wants to be on top money, if you get that top money that’s significantly more than the going rate though and isn’t in a specialist sector, then i’d always be wary that someone could turn up paying the going rate.
do people think that employees have the right to dictate that a rdc isn’t closed or that the haulage isn’t sub contracted out? i don’t.
but then what, that decision, or several like mean the company goes bust
what about if you set up a company, you need to make a tough decision to secure the future for your company, the employees who haven’t put any money in or risked their house etc decide they don’t like it
tesco, or anyone else doesn’t owe anyone a job for life
whilst i’m not a fan of strikes, i’d prefer the work to rule approach, but i’d guess the tesco job is run to rule? so a non starter
Would I cross the picket line ■■ I really don’t know enough details about their argument to make that decision, all I do know is striking will make no difference at all in the long run, they’ll just use the old “long term stable employment blah blah blah” to get what they want, and get it they will.
What I don’t understand is the guys saying I need to feed my family, I have a mortgage I can’t afford to lose a couple of shifts, so let’s say for example your boiler breaks and nice Mr Plumber says " repair is £400" would you lose your house and your children starve ■■ Simple answer is no they wouldn’t, you would find a way, they may be eating smiley faces for a while but they’d survive I can assure you of that !!
haribo4000:
Lol lol. Crappy stobarts, rubbish outfit called stobarts, stobarts this, stobarts that. Get a life lol lol
No your in need of a life, you work for the SCABBY stobart, your the idiot who didnt lose pay what is the matter with you man, huh should of gone out and defended them shame on you for thinking of your family, home, pet rabbit lol,
Stobart gets a lot of bashing etc but they employ enough people and give them work are they really that bad!!
I think half of these bashers really wanted to work for Stobart but coudnt pass the written assessments lol
discoman:
if his boiler had broke whilst striking it would be £600 as he lost the 2 days pay … so striking is not worth it never has been never will be.
No firm will give in to a strike these days. Any firm that does will be plagued by threats of strike forever more. It won’t be long before the tanker drivers want more money again I bet.
Solidarity and principle is the name of the game guy’s.
Until it is reintroduced into the narrative then any industry…not just transport… will be in a “State”. Why have these words been airbrushed from the English language by governments and corporations?
Oh I know. Silly me. It would give the electorate/workers the wrong impression as to what is expected of them and prevent aforesaid institutions from keeping the plebs in their place. Which happens to be beneath their shoes along with the other crap as it has always been. If that’s what you want guys…go for it…but don’t expect everyone else to follow suit. Shoooot!
'Kin’ell…fred… it’s a sad situation…what do you expect?
Just thought how depressing it is that working class people are arguing amongst themselves - and what a selfish nation that the majority seem to be condoning.
£7.20 AN HOUR YOU GET MORE STACKING SHELFS IN TESCO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IM HAPPY IN MY JOB BUT C’MON SERIOUS £7.20 AN HOUR AT STOBARTS WELL ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THEY MUST EMPLOY MUPPETS JUST LOOK AT THE T.V SHOW,IVE LOADED A FEW TIME OUTTA NEWARK TALK ABOUT CRITICAL TIMED DROPS ONLY 3 HOURS LATE LOADING,I CANT WAIT TILL STOBART GOES BANG,THE UNDERCUTTING ■■■■■■■
madmanjay:
£7.20 AN HOUR YOU GET MORE STACKING SHELFS IN TESCO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IM HAPPY IN MY JOB BUT C’MON SERIOUS £7.20 AN HOUR AT STOBARTS WELL ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THEY MUST EMPLOY MUPPETS JUST LOOK AT THE T.V SHOW,IVE LOADED A FEW TIME OUTTA NEWARK TALK ABOUT CRITICAL TIMED DROPS ONLY 3 HOURS LATE LOADING,I CANT WAIT TILL STOBART GOES BANG,THE UNDERCUTTING [zb]
if the rates are that bad at stobarts then i must be in some real ■■■■ for the future, the money stobarts pay me i can afford to actually buy stuff and go out on that i couldnt in my previous role (hence big screen tv brought today) lol hows things been on the picket line i aint seen no news as such as its my days off
I appreciate the anger towards falling wages and all that, but do people not think that the damage has already been done?
Punters everywhere are struggling with the forever increasing price of fuel and energy. It’s never been more expensive to live in the UK. Is it therefore really reasonable to expect lorry drivers everywhere to start getting paid £30-£40K a year for 40 hours like the Tesco lot? The cost of transport for retailers etc. is already astromonical even with Stobbies on the job and impacts prices on the shelves. When the small transport firm I work for bids for a contract they have to list in detail every last scrap of projected expenses just to try and justify why it is so expensive and show they aren’t actually rip off merchants, fuel being the main player the cost of which has more than doubled in the last ten years. Then you have all the EU regs and bureaucracy on top with has further added to costs.
OK, in an ideal world all the extra costs would just have been added to what rates used to be, but that hasn’t happened. The likes of Stobarts have undoubtebly been the main players in bringing drivers wages down over the years, but thats it now, the damage is done. The Tesco wages are out of date. Until there is a significant improvement in the economic climate its going to be very difficult to convince those at the top that all drivers on £7/£8ph should actually be on £10+.
Striking isn’t going to achieve anything. Everyman and his dog has a HGV license these days, more drivers than jobs, vacancies will always get filled. HGV driving isn’t anywhere near as skillful as it used to be in general. If you don’t like it anymore, just go and do something else.
The division was a long time ago.
The conquest now complete.
If you know you’re going to be pushed off the edge, make sure you’re on the ground floor when it happens. You can’t stop it, but you can avoid it damaging your life at least.
What WON’T help you is to still go weak at the knees, and buckle down. Doing so means you might break bones, or foul your person against the slop in the gutter.
'Kin’ell…fred… it’s a sad situation…what do you expect?
Just thought how depressing it is that working class people are arguing amongst themselves - and what a selfish nation that the majority seem to be condoning.
Ah well, I can always eat cake!
Spot on.
And as…Winseer…observes:
Winseer:
The division was a long time ago.
The conquest now complete…
but stobarts are born and breed for this sort of nasty business.
rate cutting is day one of business school fella and before dinner at that 
