‘Tesco drivers have themselves to blame’
I don’t agree with that one bit. I think that is a terrible thing to say. They had it good for a long time and now have been dropped by Tesco. Stobarts have offered them contracts but it’s a lower wage than they are used to. So they aren’t happy. Fair enough, who would be happy taking a massive wage cut? Is striking the answer though? And why are you taking it out on everyone else?
I work for stobarts, I have never worked for Tesco and never will, So why does it make me a scab for crossing the picket line. I’m doing my job, not yours. Stores still need supplying, and unfortunately stobarts are now running the transport so its there job to get the stock out. Which means that when I bring stock in I most probably will be tasked with taking stock out for them.
All I’m saying is, get on with your strike if you believe it will make a difference. But let me get on with doing what I’m paid for.
What will probably happen is other depots will load and subbies/agencies will deliver to stores, as happened when Livingston went on strike a couple years ago
Lol. If I remember right I was offered sum extra £££ to cross the line @ livo all expenses paid with a chilled load from down south when it was all about to kick off, I’m sure the same will happen in this case-people will get drafted in if needs arise, livo lads are lucky it’s still tesco but like everything else their days are numbered… 
Rikki-UK:
They sold every driver and company that didnt cross the picket line down the river for their own pockets…
Selling things down the river to line their own pockets eh? Hmmm where have I seen that happen before? 
reading everyone’s posts i would like to add ! to any of the tesco drivers on here
what would you have done if it was stobart drivers looking for better terms and pay
and they were picketing your depot in particular !! i would say they would drive through saying its nothing to do with us just like the stobart and others doing the same!!
put the shoe on the other foot !!! i commend your efforts but feel you or they are fighting a loosing battle not for now but the future you name in future references for jobs ect?? will be mud !!! trouble causer, striker,what ever !! anyway enough said stobart started his task years ago doing alot of owner drivers out of very good contracts and
i liken him to a villain in a bond film he won’t stop until he rules the world!!!
ha ha ah aha !
so try as you may but we don’t have james bond because he also works for the government ! preserve your full time job because there is a long Que !!!
And on it goes, petty envies leading to backstabbing dishonourable behaviour.
Look lads unless we collectively grow a set and draw a line in the sand, there is nothing going to stop the companies involved from gradually cutting the pay back to national minimum wage…indeed the company involved is renowned for drivers working 80 hour weeks to make a barely liveable wage already, why not cut the pay for overtime first…by simply doing another 10 hours you could make up the shortfall.
By stabbing each other in the back and justifying it by saying they would do the same is only playing into the hands of big business, we as working blokes lose every time, today its the Tesco Donny lads, tomorrow it could be any of us.
Having fellow drivers itching to help the companies take these options is nothing short of job suicide, where will you draw the line?..just how low will you go to placate a bully employer, if you don’t soon make a stand then it will all be over, you’ll be doffing your cap to t’gaffer as he strolls across the yard next.
**its almost hilarious if it wasn’t tragic and demeaning, some are about to cross picket lines, and in a few weeks time we’ll have posts complaining that other drivers on company X don’t flash you in…fellow drivers, we’re all in this together and do the same job, mutual respect and other such phrases will be spouted…well respect isn’t given freely its earned.
Carry on lads, destroy the job, be your turn soon.
Juddian:
Carry on lads, destroy the job, be your turn soon.
It’s a race to the bottom & you’re right, it won’t stop until we’re all on NMW.
Our grandfathers will be rolling in their graves.
I wish they were giving me 80 hours a week, I would be loaded.
Welcome to the real world Tesco drivers!!
Good Luck to all involved.
I hope you get fairness.
haribo4000:
I wish they were giving me 80 hours a week, I would be loaded.Welcome to the real world Tesco drivers!!
No this is where you lads have got it wrong, you don’t help unscrupulous employers to lower existing pay deals down to the bare minimum, you help existing good jobs to stay where they are and try to get in one the act.
Why do you think the cars is still the best paid job, any idea what happened to those few who broke picket lines in car disputes…here’s a clue, the companies don’t exist any more, if they do they ponce about on auction and crap work.
Not read all the posts and it may have been said already but in a way we all are slightly to blame when we put out consumer hat on.
We all want our shopping as cheap as possible food prices have risen quite a bit in the last few years fuel has rocketed it so getting it to the shop costs more tesco doesn’t want less profit as at the end of the day it isn’t a charity. So they look at where they can trim costs and stobart offer an alternative and the drivers and warehouse staff get shafted.
Good union stewards wear two hats, they look after their blokes and protect them, and they also keep discipline…
Perhaps you could tell where they are employed because the majority of union officials I’ve encountered over the past forty years had ONE agenda, their own. They were only interested in what they could get out of it, time off, easy jobs, no nights, no weekends or bank holidays, anything they could get their hands on. Their members were the last thing they ever considered.
waddy640:
Perhaps you could tell where they are employed because the majority of union officials I’ve encountered over the past forty years had ONE agenda, their own. They were only interested in what they could get out of it, time off, easy jobs, no nights, no weekends or bank holidays, anything they could get their hands on. Their members were the last thing they ever considered.
Kwik Save and Walon (laterly Autologic), wre just two, oh and where i work now…human nature dictates that the steward will often look after himself first (and his close kept bunch of chosen men), you’ve only got to look at the 650 in the house of ill repute to see that, it takes a big man to stand up for the greater good when the company tend to look after stewards to maintain the staus quo.
I’ve often said on here that choice of steward is one of the most important decisions a driver will ever make, some as you say feather their own nests, others manage well in the close balancing act they need to perform.
Its still that case that every good job i’ve ever had has been well unionised and/or family owned.
Digressing slightly, it is often said that Stobarts undercut everyone else. This being the case, do their subbies pay to work for them or do they do it at a loss?
stevieboy308:
Solly:
stevieboy308:
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to me, if you want to make business decisions / policy / strategy, then start your own business, it doesn’t sit with me right, people wanting to dictate how someone else’s is to be run. there are plenty of laws about to stop firms doing anything they want to employees.
Name one of these “Laws” that does as you claim.
the Human Rights Act 1998 which became law in 1998
contains - freedom from slavery and forced labour
any good for ya?
Thank you, but at least you could have given an example of where and when…The “Human Rights Act 1998” actually solved an industrial dispute. Cheers.
Anyone know when the actual strike is? our office want me to do a collection out of there today because they think it happens tomorrow
Midnight tonight till Thursday midnight
5RRF:
Midnight tonight till Thursday midnight
Thanks, waiting to load now
twozuluzlu:
re “tory public school educated ministers”Oh plllleeeeease we all know that the tories have always been in it for themselves but please try not to convince people that either the unions or the labour party stand for the working man.
union boses with their £150k plus pay packages are interested only in linig their own pockets and as for the labour party,everything it ever stood for was lost during the blair years and worst still blair and his cohorts have become hugely wealthy ,knackered the economy ,and they have done this with the blood of our young men on their hands, all in the ■■■■ for wealth and exploitation of other nations natural resources.
They all make me want to puke.
Hear, hear! There’s not a lot to choose between 'em as far as I can see. They’re all [zb]ing [zb]'s!
Solly:
stevieboy308:
Solly:
stevieboy308:
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to me, if you want to make business decisions / policy / strategy, then start your own business, it doesn’t sit with me right, people wanting to dictate how someone else’s is to be run. there are plenty of laws about to stop firms doing anything they want to employees.
Name one of these “Laws” that does as you claim.
the Human Rights Act 1998 which became law in 1998
contains - freedom from slavery and forced labour
any good for ya?
Thank you, but at least you could have given an example of where and when…The “Human Rights Act 1998” actually solved an industrial dispute. Cheers.
bloody hell some people just want more an more 
and on this thread as well
to be fair dude i’m not that arsed, but if you want to do some googling? then there was a slavery case possibly in or around manchester within the last 18 months or so