yourhavingalarf:
RealDave:
It’s now six months at the agency i work for . Plus £ 200 referralIt’s amazing…
How quickly insurance companies can move the goal posts when it suits them.
2 years, 2 years, 2 years, 2 years, 2 years… 6 months.
Have they moved goalposts or do firms just pay more for insurance?
I wonder how long a yard can have £10ph jobs advertized, awaiting this influx of EE labour to take up those jobs - before the yard “not functioning at all” comes to grief for losing all their contracts?
Meanwhile, the better-heeled firms will be paying top dollar for agency already meaning that when the canny EE’s turn up - they’ll join an agency that puts into that yard, rather than take any crappy hourly rate full time contracts themselves. 
Winseer:
I wonder how long a yard can have £10ph jobs advertized, awaiting this influx of EE labour to take up those jobs - before the yard “not functioning at all” comes to grief for losing all their contracts?Meanwhile, the better-heeled firms will be paying top dollar for agency already meaning that when the canny EE’s turn up - they’ll join an agency that puts into that yard, rather than take any crappy hourly rate full time contracts themselves.
well the thing is the WON the contract because they made bottom offer - something only possible to achieve IF they pay bottom dollar for drivers/truck maintenance etc. Once their cost has to go up they’ll lose their already tiny profit margin (they rely on multiple contracts on miniscule margins to make a big profit) so they will be losing money on the contract. Do that multiple times and the whole house of cards collapses and of course start blaming things like Brexit, covid, driver shortage so on.
Kier Starmer has just said he will allow in 100,000 drivers if he is voted in, yet again the supposed party of the working class going flat out to shaft the working class, he’s conveniently forgetting that there has been an alleged driver shortage since the mid 2000’s with the then in power Labour party doing nothing about it.
Mazzer2:
Kier Starmer has just said he will allow in 100,000 drivers if he is voted in, yet again the supposed party of the working class going flat out to shaft the working class, he’s conveniently forgetting that there has been an alleged driver shortage since the mid 2000’s with the then in power Labour party doing nothing about it.
Where did he say this? That figure sounds like someone pulled it out of their behind.
There were only 18,000 EU hgv drivers in the country last year so he’s doing well if he can get 100,000 over.
JeffA:
Mazzer2:
Kier Starmer has just said he will allow in 100,000 drivers if he is voted in, yet again the supposed party of the working class going flat out to shaft the working class, he’s conveniently forgetting that there has been an alleged driver shortage since the mid 2000’s with the then in power Labour party doing nothing about it.Where did he say this? That figure sounds like someone pulled it out of their behind.
There were only 18,000 EU hgv drivers in the country last year so he’s doing well if he can get 100,000 over.
He’s just stated it on the Andrew Marr show. If the figure was pulled out of someones behind then it was his own
The package 
gov.uk/government/news/more … -shortages
The letter 
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … olders.pdf
No mention of kicking the backsides of dvla to speed up their part
pig pen:
The packagegov.uk/government/news/more … -shortages
The letter
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … olders.pdf
No mention of kicking the backsides of dvla to speed up their part
Assistance with DCPC training eh?
So they have no intention of scrapping that pile of dog ■■■■ temporarily or permanently, which is a reason that a lot if drivers called it a day in the first place.
We managed fine for years without it, sure there were knobheads in the job then as well as now, but has anybody seen an improvement in ‘‘Professional Competence’’ on the roads over the years it has been out?
I sure as hell have not. 
, on the contrary in fact.
Scrap the ■■■■ thing, and allow (off the top of my head ) a couple of thousand retired drivers to start back immediately if they so desire.
Mazzer2:
JeffA:
Mazzer2:
Kier Starmer has just said he will allow in 100,000 drivers if he is voted in, yet again the supposed party of the working class going flat out to shaft the working class, he’s conveniently forgetting that there has been an alleged driver shortage since the mid 2000’s with the then in power Labour party doing nothing about it.Where did he say this? That figure sounds like someone pulled it out of their behind.
There were only 18,000 EU hgv drivers in the country last year so he’s doing well if he can get 100,000 over.
He’s just stated it on the Andrew Marr show. If the figure was pulled out of someones behind then it was his own
Labour strikes again … just as wages are on the rise in our sector ,once again labour show their real distain for the working class men and women of this country and it shows that there are
no depths they are not prepared to sink to As bad as they are i will take a crooked tory[ as the least of two evils] over backstabbing two face bunch of hypocrites that currently are the so called labour party.
They need to find someone like john smith, someone with some gravitas before they are even remotely electable.
robroy:
pig pen:
The packagegov.uk/government/news/more … -shortages
The letter
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … olders.pdf
No mention of kicking the backsides of dvla to speed up their part
Assistance with DCPC training eh?
So they have no intention of scrapping that pile of dog [zb] temporarily or permanently, which is a reason that a lot if drivers called it a day in the first place.
We managed fine for years without it, sure there were knobheads in the job then as well as now, but has anybody seen an improvement in ‘‘Professional Competence’’ on the roads over the years it has been out?
I sure as hell have not.Scrap the [zb] thing, and allow (off the top of my head ) a couple of thousand retired drivers to start back immediately if they so desire.
Totally agree with that, I am retired after 40years driving, applied to renew my licence in July, still not had an acknowledgment from DVLA that they have received it and it was sent by recorded delivery and signed for. and when I/if do receive my licence back I then have to renew my DCPC card, at an extra cost. A load of Bo###x
robroy:
pig pen:
The packagegov.uk/government/news/more … -shortages
The letter
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … olders.pdf
No mention of kicking the backsides of dvla to speed up their part
Assistance with DCPC training eh?
So they have no intention of scrapping that pile of dog [zb] temporarily or permanently, which is a reason that a lot if drivers called it a day in the first place.
We managed fine for years without it, sure there were knobheads in the job then as well as now, but has anybody seen an improvement in ‘‘Professional Competence’’ on the roads over the years it has been out?
I sure as hell have not.Scrap the [zb] thing, and allow (off the top of my head ) a couple of thousand retired drivers to start back immediately if they so desire.
Agree with all of what you say, I know quite a few who couldn’t be bothered doing it the first time round, even more who didn’t want to do it all again last time.
Most drivers will know of another waiting for the dvla, and we read on here nearly daily of people waiting for the dvla, yet all these proposals make no menction of it, it doent matter how many test they sort there is still that back log in the system.
Im ready and able to get ADR and PDP and drive tankers. I also live right near thurrock which has a large fuel storage site.
Current Rates for class 2 ADR £17 ph/r
Class 1 ADR not sure of the rates. But potential earnings of £50,000 etc.
Na, I’d rather work at a supermarket and earn more.
Why are they not hiking up the agency rates to cover the shortage? Why they not giving large joining bonuses?
Seems a bit odd to me.
The way I see it is if you are fuel tanker driving you should be earning top dollar. It’s high risk and demands high reward.
Just looking at a tesco job advert - says basic day rate is 12.79 an hour.
Be a lot of overtime getting that up to 50 grand
Staright:
SuperMultiBlue:
Will run to Xmas eve.Suggestions by one mp that we should train up thousands of afghan refugees.
So the idea is to train up thousands of Afghans who presumably, would have to take a UK based normal driving test, then, assuming they pass, then go into exactly the same training process as the rest of us ordinary pond life types. I assume they will also be funded?
Will they be fast tracked through the system which includes the DVSA of course.
What about extending the same courtesies to those of us that are Brits, here already and keen to get on with joining the profession?
The government could fund the training of 10,000 new HGV drivers for 30,000,000 which, given the truly vast eye watering amount of wonga spent in other areas, is a drop in the ocean.
‘Foreign-Aid’ budget…adjustments, should easily cater to that conundrum mithinks.
JeffA:
Just looking at a tesco job advert - says basic day rate is 12.79 an hour.Be a lot of overtime getting that up to 50 grand
Tanker or general?
Conor:
toowise:
There was a few South African drivers talking about the driver shortage in the UK on a Faceache group a couple of days ago. They were discussing the reports of mega high earnings.
Plenty of drivers from all over Africa earning a pittance compared to here and driving most of our cast off trucks.
Most of them driving on the same side of the road as us, and most living in “Commonwealth” countries, making emigration easier.Cant drive lorries here though until they’ve taken a car and then LGV test because they can’t exchange their licences.
can be easily changed by an executive decision. doesn’t even need a vote in parliament
As a newbie trying to get off Step Zero of getting licenced (never mind finding a job), I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
From the “package”, who are these “4000 drivers to receive training to enter the industry”? I need DVLA to get off their lazy backsides and deal with my provisional.
I was looking into why DVLA are on strike, and it seems to me they are a bunch of Liberals crying like babies because they worked in an enclosed air-conditioned office with one or more of the 30% of asymptomatic carriers of SARS, got ill, and are using the situation to cause the Government as much grief as possible, in what appears to be pay-back for Brexit.
I don’t under-estimate the organized effort of anti-Brexit types to cause as much disruption as possible after their desperate failed attempts to railroad democracy through the courts. I just see this as more of the same.
The union used by DVLA even state that the medical branch were used in order to cause maximum disruption. Hardly a legitimate grievance then? Get to the back of the queue if you think you were adversely affected by SARS. I had the ■■■■ thing before the pandemic was even announced. I just got on with it despite nearly ending up in A&E! I didn’t strike afterwards, demand special treatment, compensation, etc.!
At the end, it’s just another respiratory virus that the vast majority recover from. Sure, any death is a tragedy, but we are all certain to die one way or another.
If we’re going to start making exceptions for certain illnesses because of politics, we are going down a very dark path indeed.
Rant over!
adam277:
Im ready and able to get ADR and PDP and drive tankers.
PDP is only needed to go into the refinery, most tankers drivers don’t have it and don’t need it
osark:
Conor:
toowise:
There was a few South African drivers talking about the driver shortage in the UK on a Faceache group a couple of days ago. They were discussing the reports of mega high earnings.
Plenty of drivers from all over Africa earning a pittance compared to here and driving most of our cast off trucks.
Most of them driving on the same side of the road as us, and most living in “Commonwealth” countries, making emigration easier.Cant drive lorries here though until they’ve taken a car and then LGV test because they can’t exchange their licences.
can be easily changed by an executive decision. doesn’t even need a vote in parliament
Absolutely.
The politicos never, ever, said they would stop cheap labour entering the UK, did they?
Lots of people might have thought they heard that, but it doesnt seem to be so. All they said was that EU workers wouldnt get in without visas.
Issue visas now and they will break no promises. (as if that matters to them)
Issue licences to all and sundry? Of course! What could possibly go wrong*?
*Having driven in the UK, Western and Eastern Europe, and a little in North Africa, I do know the answer to that!
pierrot 14:
edited:-
Can I please add,
all this nonsence of queues at petrol stations is MEDIA HYPE,
let’s create a real DRAMA to frighten the public
AND it seems that it’s working.
Same happened with the China Flu