Tommy Robinson, saint or sinner?

Carryfast:
Followers of the radical Islamic fundamentalist Wahabbist/Salafist/Hanafist doctrine at least.Which obviously includes a large part ( most ? ) of the Muslim population of the Indian sub continent and North West frontier ?.You know the same ones that Harry was shooting with that very tasty machine gun. :laughing: To the rapturous applause of the same establishment that calls Robinson a racist. :unamused:

On that note Hanafist Islam can’t possibly be described as ‘moderate’ Islam just like Wahabbi/Salafist can’t.All being based first and foremost on the literal word of their prophet and we all know what his ideas concerning women and unbelievers were,among others.

That’s what the Islamic apologists and appeasers have invited into the country to keep their savage Saudi allies happy. :unamused:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanafi

Meanwhile try getting your head around this. :open_mouth: The conclusion seems to be that the Taliban aren’t really sure if they are relatively moderate Sufis or the old school full on nutter zb Hanafis but they’ve decided that they don’t like the Wahabbist Saudi savages anyway. :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing:

bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35123748

I am under the impression here that you are completely off your trolley. Are you having some sort of breakdown as quite frankly I cannot believe what I am reading from you. You have never visited the countries that you are ranting over and I will wager that you have never been affected by any Muslim let alone an extremist. There are two types of people that I cannot argue with, a drunk and an idiot. I can now add a third to that list and state Carryfast.

About a month ago a reputable on line petition group, Change.org, launched a petition for Parliament to debate the abolition of the House of Lords because of their traitorous behaviour in trying to thwart the democratic vote of the people, as of today that petition has 200,000 signatures compelling Parliament to debate the issue of the petition.

Last Saturday a new petition was launched on Change.org to ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ as of today that petition has 502,000 signatures and rising in less than 7 days, it is now a worldwide issue, I rest my case :sunglasses:

Regards
Dave Penn;

davepenn54:
About a month ago a reputable on line petition group, Change.org, launched a petition for Parliament to debate the abolition of the House of Lords because of their traitorous behaviour in trying to thwart the democratic vote of the people, as of today that petition has 200,000 signatures compelling Parliament to debate the issue of the petition.

Last Saturday a new petition was launched on Change.org to ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ as of today that petition has 502,000 signatures and rising in less than 7 days, it is now a worldwide issue, I rest my case :sunglasses:

Regards
Dave Penn;

The population of Britain is 65.5 million whereas the population of the world is 7.5 billion. As this has reached out to all corners of the world are you seriously suggesting that 500,000 is a large proportion or expect any less ■■■■ followers world wide to exist? I will rest my case!!

davepenn54:
Last Saturday a new petition was launched on Change.org to ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ as of today that petition has 502,000 signatures and rising in less than 7 days, it is now a worldwide issue, I rest my case :sunglasses:

Replace Africa with England and Mandela with Tommy turn the commies’ own ammunition back against them. :bulb: :wink:

youtube.com/watch?v=W0ltWUqu8ck

thelondoneconomic.com/satir … ots/30/05/

Reporting restrictions are there for a reason…

andy187:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/satire/millions-of-people-unwittingly-expose-themselves-as-idiots/30/05/

Reporting restrictions are there for a reason…

Can’t argue with that can you.

andy187:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/satire/millions-of-people-unwittingly-expose-themselves-as-idiots/30/05/

Reporting restrictions are there for a reason…

The Socialist version of Satire and a free press. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Look on the bright side not as imbecilic,if at all,as the Socialist zb wits and imbeciles who supported Mandela.Wasn’t he and his commy mates a convicted terrorist who all helped to wreck South Africa. :unamused: :laughing:

albion:

Rjan:
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Firstly, I haven’t tarred any group with holding particular views. I quoted from a Pakistani Muslim because it was pertinent to the previous post. Nor have I suggested that any Muslim that says don’t play with white kids is representative. FFS, I shouldn’t have to explain the obvious.

And I don’t have to balance anything up. Just for clarity, I don’t have any problem with anyone who is a reasonble human being, I only have problems with the cruel, the nasty. I don’t care what colour they are, where they are from.

On the contrary, in the context of this thread, I don’t think it’s obvious that you didn’t intend these anecdotes as representative examples. And in that context, I do think you have to balance things up.

It’s no different to how you complain when I talk about “bosses”, and you step in to say “we’ll that’s not my view as a boss” or “that’s not true of all bosses”, and I say yes you’re right, and I add as much qualification to what I’ve previously said as you want me to, in order to capture subtleties or paint a fuller picture. That’s all I’ve done here.

No one is defending the “cruel” and the “nasty”, but we were discussing such examples as mothers (who have come from foreign societies as adults, and have spent more of their lives so far outside Britain than in it) telling their children “don’t play with the white kids”, which is unlikely to arise from a mentality of “cruelty” or “nastiness”, but a degree of distaste about certain more liberal aspects of British culture (the same distaste that is actually as prevalent amongst many Brits, or certainly was until very recently).

And such distaste as far as I’m concerned is not a political problem, but just what you’d expect to find amongst some people at the early stages of integration (and there will be others in the same community, even the same family, who have a different attitude).

And yano, for what it’s worth, I think further immigration should be dramatically reduced, not least so that poverty and deprivation in minority communities and in white working class communities can be effectively tackled (which does work against integration).

Now if you can’t do anything but twist someone’s words and ascribe characteristics that don’t exist to them, don’t bother replying.

And even if you can manage that, do as I’ve asked before, stop replying to me with your long-winded and incorrectly analysed waffle.

I will bother saying my piece, at whatever length suits me. If you don’t like what I have to say, return to employing your own rule - you don’t have to reply to me, or even read what I say.

youtube.com/watch?v=fvDo2ICkWKg

Carryfast:
Look on the bright side not as imbecilic,if at all,as the Socialist zb wits and imbeciles who supported Mandela.Wasn’t he and his commy mates a convicted terrorist who all helped to wreck South Africa. :unamused: :laughing:

I am sure TR would be in favour of apartheid, it is all painting a very grim picture of you though Carryfast, please continue with your view on South Africa, this could be very interesting.

UKtramp:

Carryfast:
Look on the bright side not as imbecilic,if at all,as the Socialist zb wits and imbeciles who supported Mandela.Wasn’t he and his commy mates a convicted terrorist who all helped to wreck South Africa. :unamused: :laughing:

I am sure TR would be in favour of apartheid, it is all painting a very grim picture of you though Carryfast, please continue with your view on South Africa, this could be very interesting.

Well to be fair I don’t think it is panning out into the Rainbow Nation that Mandela envisaged, corruption and nepotism mean it is rapidly catching up with Zimbabwe in how to turn a prosperous nation into a basket case.

Carryfast:

andy187:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/satire/millions-of-people-unwittingly-expose-themselves-as-idiots/30/05/

Reporting restrictions are there for a reason…

The Socialist version of Satire and a free press. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Look on the bright side not as imbecilic,if at all,as the Socialist zb wits and imbeciles who supported Mandela.Wasn’t he and his commy mates a convicted terrorist who all helped to wreck South Africa. :unamused: :laughing:

So you believe the ANC is wrecking the economy then and bring back apartheid ?

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andy187:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/satire/millions-of-people-unwittingly-expose-themselves-as-idiots/30/05/

Reporting restrictions are there for a reason…

Hardly an unbiased or objective article is it, the video in the article is about 7 year old and has nothing to do with what’s happening today.

There was no need for a news blackout on Tommy Robinsons court case, publicity about his conviction for contempt of court would not have jeopardised the grooming case in any way whatsoever, if reporting on Robinson being locked up is likely to interfere with the grooming case then surely the judge would not have lifted the news blackout.

I think Tommy and Freyda, are doing what most of us would like to do…and they’re saying what most of us say or think about anyway…and we dont have to be racist to think those thoughts. The majority of problems around the world include Muslims…so say its a cult…others say its a religion, but there are millions who believe in it…the same can be said about Christianity…not forgetting that there are good and bad people in both.
What Tommy did this time, was to highlight a gang of Muslim groomers, ■■■■■■ deviants, rapists, or whatever you want to call them, and to report on the trial, something the rest of the media have kept quiet about, as for me, i knew nothing about it until it was mentioned by Tommy…so i find that this trial is in the public interest, and i ask myself why it isnt being reported…why the judge wanted it kept quiet, as i cannot personally see how Tommy or the media could possibly interfere with the justice in this trial. In my mind, there is no smoke without fire, there is no trial, if there is no evidence, and to arrest him, and send him to prison where he was beaten black and blue before, where his life is in danger, on the pretext of a condition of his bail from a previous appearance before a judge.
As i already have seen, Muslims have been jailed in the past year or so, for the same offences, of grooming and ■■■■■■ assaulting young kids, many muslims have been killed, flying planes into the twin towers, some were killed during the recent attacks in Manchester, London, France, Belgium, Germany, Madrid, and many oither countries, and i can see a pattern, i have read and seen videos, of muslim hatred towards the western cultures, i have also read and seen videos of what their intentions really are, a caliphate if you like, of coming to the west, spreading out, breeding, introducing Sharia, and other cultural things, believing one day, they will take over…its happening in other countries as we sit here pondering whats happening around us…it seems to me that the muslims are the ones who feel hard done by, when we have opened our doors to them, not all are bad, but i dont see many grassing others , or in fact speaking out against the atrocities being dealt out upon others…we have allowed them to build mosques, yet they have used the mosques as breeding grounds for their terrorism, or attacks on us, its no good relying on the police to catch and deal with these people ( most are shot dead at the scene anyway ), as more only follow, we have to tell them we are not going to allow them to decimate our cities, with their atrocities, they must close their faith schools and integrate, whatever ideas we can come up with, we need to implement them in order to keep tabs on whats going on, and for my money, Tommy Robinson is letting me know whats happening, as the media and government are hiding the truth…amen

Mazzer2:

UKtramp:
I am sure TR would be in favour of apartheid, it is all painting a very grim picture of you though Carryfast, please continue with your view on South Africa, this could be very interesting.

Well to be fair I don’t think it is panning out into the Rainbow Nation that Mandela envisaged, corruption and nepotism mean it is rapidly catching up with Zimbabwe in how to turn a prosperous nation into a basket case.

Wherever Communism goes that’s what follows and Mandela knew it.Oh wait remind us why was the South African government kicked out.Race obviously matters to the socialists just as much as it rightly mattered regarding who was best to govern South Africa.Let alone the hypocricy of socialists wanting indigenous majority rule in South Africa but the total opposite here using our corrupt concentration rather than aggregate based electoral system to do it.

While breeding and integrating the different ethnicities out of existence is no less racist that what the Socialist scumbag Hitler tried to do.

truckyboy:
What Tommy did this time, was to highlight a gang of Muslim groomers, ■■■■■■ deviants, rapists, or whatever you want to call them, and to report on the trial, something the rest of the media have kept quiet about, as for me, i knew nothing about it until it was mentioned by Tommy…so i find that this trial is in the public interest, and i ask myself why it isnt being reported

What he’s actually doing is highlighting the potential incitement contained within cultures which live as closely as possible by the literal word of the Koran.As we know doing that doesn’t fit the script of UK foreign policy which sees Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as allies not degenerate societies which are kept in the savage dark ages because they are dominated by the content of their ‘book’.Also the government obviously fears and would rather bring that immigrant alien culture onto our own streets,more than it gives a zb about the indigenous culture in wanting to stop it.

UKtramp:

Carryfast:
Look on the bright side not as imbecilic,if at all,as the Socialist zb wits and imbeciles who supported Mandela.Wasn’t he and his commy mates a convicted terrorist who all helped to wreck South Africa. :unamused: :laughing:

So you believe the ANC is wrecking the economy then and bring back apartheid ?

The fact that the ANC have wrecked South Africa isn’t up for discussion.While you having made the big thing about supposedly not being a Communist you seem to have a strange way of showing it in supporting a Communist terrorist organisation.As for apartheid unless you intend to declare white flight here a race hate crime then it’s a moot point.

UKtramp:

Carryfast:

andy187:
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/satire/millions-of-people-unwittingly-expose-themselves-as-idiots/30/05/

Reporting restrictions are there for a reason…

The Socialist version of Satire and a free press. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Look on the bright side not as imbecilic,if at all,as the Socialist zb wits and imbeciles who supported Mandela.Wasn’t he and his commy mates a convicted terrorist who all helped to wreck South Africa. :unamused: :laughing:

So you believe the ANC is wrecking the economy then and bring back apartheid ?

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I think it is universally accepted that the ANC have ballsed the economy up, bringing back apartheid is obviously not the answer as that regime was also corrupt but until the people of S.A. vote for politicians who are competent they will not become better off, just because the ANC with international help were able to end apartheid does not automatically make them competent politicians.

Mazzer2:
I think it is universally accepted that the ANC have ballsed the economy up, bringing back apartheid is obviously not the answer as that regime was also corrupt but until the people of S.A. vote for politicians who are competent they will not become better off, just because the ANC with international help were able to end apartheid does not automatically make them competent politicians.

At some point they’ll let the whites have near free reign again over economic management, except this time it will be without the attitude of superiority, it will be under the clear understanding that those whites are not there to promote the interests of their own race or to provide privilege to whites who cannot stand above blacks on their merits, and it will be with the democratic consent of blacks.

That was the only problem in the first place in Southern Africa, that there were too many whites (many if not most of them having arrived there only in the 20th century), expecting secure British or European standards of living (not just for themselves but for their children, no matter how far from the tree the apple fell) in an economy that did not support those standards of living without grievous inequalities, and in which the most backward and inept white farm manager felt his station in life was above blacks like Nelson Mandela because of the colour of their skin only.

@truckyboy, well said mate, I’m sure there are at least 2 posters in this this thread that are going to be offended by your ‘straight to the point’ post, so watch out for the thought police turning up at your door at some unearthly hour to arrest you for hate speech or blasphemy towards islam, because I’m sure that the pair of them wouldn’t think twice about reporting you to the police for this type left wing influenced NON crime.

Anyways, Islam is a political ideology that masquerades as a religion of peace, it’s ultimate goal is to implement sharia law worldwide through ■■■■■■■■■■, subjugation and death to the unbeliever.

if any respsonding poster appears to have little knowledge of the quoran (handbook of hate) or hadith’s please take note your post will not receive a response.

BTW there was a march and demonstration in Leeds city centre today, in support of TR from 3pm onwards, about 2000 people turned out and brought the city centre to a standstill in the evening rush hour.

Regards
Dave Penn;