Tom Tom pro 5150 truck v snooper truckmate pro s5000

If you untick "Traffic Information " you can select the Satellite Imagery option. Sadly it’s not as useful as it sounds, as the satellite images are only visible when zoomed almost all the way out - you can see mountains, big lakes etc but that’s it.

spectron:
Pay monthly for a sat nav, are you having a laff. Get a map

Yeah I remember them days too , a box of maps with your gear. Infact as many maps as topshelf mags, sometimes grabbing the wrong one could be a right pain…lol

I bought a tomtom 5150 last week, the first day I used it was first trip from Warrington to Newcastle under Lyme, Jesus what a pile of ■■■, it took me to a dead end which needed a very tight three point turn and tried to get me to go down a 7.5 limit road. At this point I fired up the Snooper and all was well.
I ran this in tandem for the rest of the day and the Snooper did the job the Tomtom was diabolical.

It turns out the night before (the day it arrived) the updates had not downloaded correctly or completely and for some reason the TT live services had not kicked in.
I have sorted this now and on Thursday I gave it another chance and it was bob on.

I like the brighter more legible screen of the TT and the live service seems great up to now though I have used this in the Mrs car where the sat nav is built in and its been brilliant.
The touch screen is much more usable than the Snooper by being more sensitive but in the Snoopers favour the keyboard has numbers and text on it and you dont have to change screen to get at the numbers also Snooper has an easier way of finding addresses by town and street than tomtom I find.

I do not like the fact the TT mount has the usb/power cable into it rather than straight into the unit itself, I am on the hunt to see if you can get a usb cable with the fitting to go into the unit direct, I think the TT Go series 1005 may fit and this gives more options for mounting the unit on the dash using after market mounts.

The jury is still out on this sat nav so I will hold onto the trusty Snooper for a short while until I decide I am confident with the TT to trust it further.
(disclaimer) for those that are sat nav haters I do have maps but the thread is about sat navs so bog off :wink: :laughing:

Yes, the cable/connector of the 1000/1005 plugs straight in to the 5150.

Roymondo:
Yes, the cable/connector of the 1000/1005 plugs straight in to the 5150.

Fantastic info, thanks for the conformation as I drive an old Scania and the screen is miles away but I have a mount screwed into the dash but its an after market jobby so been mounting the TT on the (unused) ashtray lid with the disc thing but its a bit low and you need to look away from the road.

I bought 5150 last week and it toom me down the street with a low bridge in Swindon, it doesnt even have low bridges icons on the map, what a shiiite!!!

I found it routes around the low bridges quite well (as long as you set the heights in the vehicle settings) so no need to show the low bridges on the map, however I loaded low bridges Poi from the internet to the TT and is shows most of them if your within a certain radius of them.
Overall I am happy though updating is a ballache.

Sent my 5150 back and got a refund 2 weeks after buying it my only comment is its a car sat nav with low bridges i found its routing diabolical so i have now got a 7 inch snooper spot on every time highly recommend it

raff113:
I bought 5150 last week and it toom me down the street with a low bridge in Swindon, it doesnt even have low bridges icons on the map, what a shiiite!!!

It doesn’t work by showing/warning you when you are approaching a bridge (or weight/width/length restriction) - It simply finds a route that doesn’t go that way. Assuming you mean the well-known 3.1 metre bridge on Corporation Street, it certainly does have it in its map data and won’t route you under it (provided you have set your vehicle type and dimensions in the Settings - you did do that, didn’t you?). And it does show restrictions (not just low bridges) on the map - It shows roads which are prohibited for your vehicle (whether by weight, height or width) in purple (as explained on Page 18 of the user manual).

You have read the manual - at least the section on Truck Navigation…?

raff113:
I bought 5150 last week and it toom me down the street with a low bridge in Swindon, it doesnt even have low bridges icons on the map, what a shiiite!!!

You must have set it wrong mate, never had a problem with a low bridge. make sure you update it a few times for the first couple of months.twice a week.

had my snooper for 3 years great did the job the only problem i had with snooper broke once under warranty thay fixed it then broke down again after warranty and thay were going to charge me 129 plus vat and labour now how do i have this probelm with a sat nav that is only 3 year old were iv never had this problem with tom tom any way i told them to stuff it and ill have my broken snooper back total wasit of money 3 years it lasted snooper.

What was the fault (s) ?

I’ve got a 5150, it’s very good but it’s not perfect. A little common sense is needed. I always bring up the route by pressing to ‘show map of route’ then expand areas etc and compare with a map. Also use google maps. A few times I’ve had a phone call en route to go somewhere and had to wing it just with the Sat Nav, but thats just asking for trouble and I’m never happy doing it.

I’ve had a Snooper s2000 Europe was well built with metal back and mount slot built into unit but not poi on route. Now have Snooper s5000 Europe (£150 second hand from eBay) with poi on route but not as well built as s2000. Traffic works well on both. And unlike Garmin truck sat nav (colleague has one) Snooper has multi route which is handy as I put 15+ drops all over Europe in it and gives good estimate as to each and final drop on front screen. Also Snooper reroutes in seconds if you screw up Garmin takes minutes. Does Tom Tom do multi drop?

darren118:
Does Tom Tom do multi drop?

Sort of. Up until the late lamented TomTom 7000 Truck model, TomToms did “Itinerary Planning” - Using this, you could tap in all your drops as “Destinations” and the TomTom would route you to the first one, automatically mark it as “visited” when you arrived and then a couple of taps on the screen had you routed to the next one on the list and so on. Perfect. With a few more taps you could mark each of the Destinations as “Waypoints” and get an estimated driving time/ETA for the whole run.

Then they introduced the 5150. As initially released, it didn’t do any sort of multi-drop, but an early software update introduced the “Travel Via” facility. Using this, you could once again tap in all the drops, in order, on your run, and the TomTom would route you through all of them to your final destination. But it was (and still is) seriously flawed: It will only show an estimated time/distance for the whole run - stops along the way are not shown individually and there’s no way for it to tell you time or distance to the next one on the list. It does notify you 1/2 a mile or so before you reach it that you are about to reach a Waypoint, and again when you actually get there. BUT (and it is a big BUT) if you find yourself having to divert off the planned route during the last half mile or so before reaching the Waypoint (say, because of a road closure or because you don’t like the look of the road it wants you to take) it assumes you have driven close enough to it, silently marks it as “skipped” (there is a brief, on-screen message saying this is what it has done, but it’s only there for a few seconds and there is no voice prompt to draw it to your attention) and carries on to the next Waypoint. To the best of my knowledge, both the later 5250 and 6000 do exactly the same.

You say that Garmin truck satnavs don’t do multi-drop - But in fact they do (some of them do, at any rate - I’ve seen and used the function myself). Better than that, you can simply enter all your drops and have the Garmin automatically optimise the run order for you. TomTom claims to do something similar for a few drops - but it simply doesn’t work.

Roymondo:

darren118:
Does Tom Tom do multi drop?

Sort of. Up until the late lamented TomTom 7000 Truck model, TomToms did “Itinerary Planning” - Using this, you could tap in all your drops as “Destinations” and the TomTom would route you to the first one, automatically mark it as “visited” when you arrived and then a couple of taps on the screen had you routed to the next one on the list and so on. Perfect. With a few more taps you could mark each of the Destinations as “Waypoints” and get an estimated driving time/ETA for the whole run.

Then they introduced the 5150. As initially released, it didn’t do any sort of multi-drop, but an early software update introduced the “Travel Via” facility. Using this, you could once again tap in all the drops, in order, on your run, and the TomTom would route you through all of them to your final destination. But it was (and still is) seriously flawed: It will only show an estimated time/distance for the whole run - stops along the way are not shown individually and there’s no way for it to tell you time or distance to the next one on the list. It does notify you 1/2 a mile or so before you reach it that you are about to reach a Waypoint, and again when you actually get there. BUT (and it is a big BUT) if you find yourself having to divert off the planned route during the last half mile or so before reaching the Waypoint (say, because of a road closure or because you don’t like the look of the road it wants you to take) it assumes you have driven close enough to it, silently marks it as “skipped” (there is a brief, on-screen message saying this is what it has done, but it’s only there for a few seconds and there is no voice prompt to draw it to your attention) and carries on to the next Waypoint. To the best of my knowledge, both the later 5250 and 6000 do exactly the same.

You say that Garmin truck satnavs don’t do multi-drop - But in fact they do (some of them do, at any rate - I’ve seen and used the function myself). Better than that, you can simply enter all your drops and have the Garmin automatically optimise the run order for you. TomTom claims to do something similar for a few drops - but it simply doesn’t work.

Yes your right some Garmin truck sat nav’s do muti drop routing (just watched demo on utube) my colleague just has a naff one without this feature and it’s a feature I wouldn’t do without so that rules out Tomtom as my firm call asking for eta for 4th drop ect. Garmin best route sorting looks good but with time sensitive deliveries I’m normally fixed into stupid order by my office.