Toll and Tacho advice for private 7.5 ton

Hi,
I’ve just bought a Daf LF45 to move our home across europe.
I’ve got C1 on my license. I’ve already found I can drive for private use in France without toll, but google’s not very helpful.
I’ll be going through France, Belgium, Germany, Poland, and into Lithuania.
I also need advice on Tolls.
I know some places I’ll be exempt on using the tacko
And I think, I’m exempt from toll in Germany.

Many thanks

I am surprised by what you say, or have misread it, why on earth should you be immune from tolls anywhere you go where they exist?

On a lighter note, when I saw your thread title I first thought it was about Mexican food. :flushed_face:

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I read it that way too.

If he is routing Dover/Calais and straight into Belgium then I don’t think there will be any French tolls payable. But as @spardo says even small private vehicles pay tolls on certain roads.

The Belgian and German systems do need tolls paid by vehicles over 7.5T on many roads for sure. Between 3.5T and 7.5T I do not know.

How the vehicles arrival in France from the UK will be treated is an unknown to me. Once upon a time (pre-Brexit) it would have been very easy, but currently it may not be so.

Normally anything over 3.5T in the EU needs Tachographs, O-licences, CMRs, customs docs, etc. Doing a private house move with your goods might well exempt you from some of that, but I for one would not give any advice on it, especially as getting it wrong could cause serious problems for you.

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I need to look further, but I read that as I’m not carrying commercially, and that I I’m classed as a craftsman, I can drive my own stuff (tools etc.) toll free. But I need to confirm it.
Bloody spell check changed the title!!

I see what you mean now but not sure how at a toll booth you can prove your case one way or the other, most in France at least are now unmanned and even if manned surely an inspection would have to take place.

I live in France and before retirement used to drive commercial vehicles so all peage payments were made direct from the company and I have no way of knowing what, if any, discounts are available.

Seems to me that the people who might know are small traders, plumbers etc. rather than commercial vehicle drivers which are what most of us here are. Even then it won’t be toll free but might be classed as a car rather than a commercial.

Interesting that you say you are going to live in Lithuania, is there a special connection for you with that, family etc, or some other attraction?

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We have close friends there and love the simple country life style.

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Stop me if I’m wrong…. Lithuania is fully in the EU. So moving your personal goods from the UK to there are subject to Lithuanian customs rules? I think you will need some sort of documentation for the French (as country of entry into the EU) to show you are carrying the goods legally. Then when in Lithuania obey there customs laws. Even if it is zero tax you will need to be able to prove that when entering the EU form the UK.
In France and most other places you need to show you are in possession of goods legally. For most goods a CMR is necessary but for imports/exports some customs docs are needed.

I would think that any Lithuanian customs agents you are dealing with should be able to help here. And I would personally be prepared to speak to (and pay) a UK customs agent too. Better to spend a but up front to avoid fines, confiscations etc later on.

Getting an O-licence is maybe a non starter, but everything commercial over 3.5T gross, even pick-ups with a trailer, are under that now. Under EU law you will probably need that. Under the individual law of each country you may or may not be exempt.
Same with tacho law. A motorhome may be exempt, but a commercial vehicle? Even if truly exempt, at the very least you will likely stick out like a sore thumb everywhere you go.

there are no tolls between Calais and the Belgium border however make life easier on your self and go to dunkirk
a 2 second google says anything over 3.5t in germany has to pay a toll to use the autobahn. once your through germany your into the land of the lawless just keep a few euros in your wallet in case you do get stopped

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Because it’s not goods but personal belonging, I don’t. I contacted DFDS ferries to ask about how to book and they said because it’s not commercial I don’t need paperwork.
But, just in case I have a fully listed and numbered inventory of everything.

I was planning to go Durkirk anyway. I think, to be safe I’m just going to get one of the auto toll boxes.

Not easy for Germany the last time I was there. They needed to be wired into the tachograph, but that was few years ago. For a one off, or return trip then that might be a very expensive option. Check out the “Toll Collect” site directly.

I daresay that is correct. If you have proof of current/former/future residence in both countries I expect all will be OK.

I would suggest using the tacho and obeying all EU tacho laws. Don’t leave any gaps for error. Some domestic laws might be different, but why take a chance?

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it says you can pay with an app.

Payment method:

Tolls can be paid via the Toll Collect system using an on-board unit, the Toll Collect Internet platform, a mobile application, or a payment terminal.

I think that is out of date. The terminals were being removed years ago.

Exactly! I’ve ordered a card

Best of luck in your new life mate, and bonne route. :smiley:

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