I sometimes found difficulty in fitting the clippy thing that holds it in the socket.
As if the bolts used were too big across the flats causing interference.
Something heavy usually persuaded the clip to hold the plug securely.
If its connected to a DAF then annoying errors might be a factor like constant “ABS / EBS malfunction” but thats a DAF problem and not specific to certain trailers. No one seems to know why it does that.
If its on deckers my suspicion would be the same people who refuse to strap anything (often inc internals) and wonder why the 1T IBCs move, thus enacting the auto braking. Only had it kick in once in 2 years of driving deckers but I do strap…scary number don’t.
trevHCS:
If its connected to a DAF then annoying errors might be a factor like constant “ABS / EBS malfunction” but thats a DAF problem and not specific to certain trailers. No one seems to know why it does that.If its on deckers my suspicion would be the same people who refuse to strap anything (often inc internals) and wonder why the 1T IBCs move, thus enacting the auto braking. Only had it kick in once in 2 years of driving deckers but I do strap…scary number don’t.
Such a good boy for strapping. Well done you
Silver_Surfer:
Tude:
Don Bur…Worst trailers I have ever had the displeasure to use, in almost every way…So pleased that I now work at a place that does not use them.A successful long standing British manufacturer comes on the site to ask drivers for information on a particular subject which makes a change from some of the BS on here and you post that generalised crap which has nothing to do with the topic. [emoji849]
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cgscott:
trevHCS:
If its connected to a DAF then annoying errors might be a factor like constant “ABS / EBS malfunction” but thats a DAF problem and not specific to certain trailers. No one seems to know why it does that.If its on deckers my suspicion would be the same people who refuse to strap anything (often inc internals) and wonder why the 1T IBCs move, thus enacting the auto braking. Only had it kick in once in 2 years of driving deckers but I do strap…scary number don’t.
Such a good boy for strapping. Well done you
Another one who’s too idle to strap a load,why not take a bit of pride in your work,its not big nor clever,dont bother replying I’m not here to feed the trolls.
adam277:
I suspect due to intermittent warning light that can come up repeatedly while driving. (Mainly seems a problem with DAFs in my experience)
Can be quite annoying when your driving and every 30 secs it warns you about the abs.But still seems pretty stupid not to connect it.
A Daf engineer told me that’s due to company’s only changing single tyres on an axle and it upsets the ECU, because it’s getting different speed signals.
Slightly (way) off topic rant,
the 60? new/refurb DonBur deckers recently supplied to B&Q are horrendous, the sliders at the front for the suzies need the Incredible Hulk to drag it in/out, the new feature that screams at you if you pull the red airline off before pulling the parking brake on and winding down the legs, is something that will ultimately malfunction and be an added maintenance cost, I think that it will eventually get disconnected when the pointy shoe brigade figure out it’s cheaper to disconnect it rather than repair it. I know they are trying to teach /re-educate drivers how to drop trailers because Tomaski Dicksku & Harryski have dropped several trailers on their knees and it’s costing them money, but drivers do the trailer walk round routine their way and you’ll never change them.
I figure B&Q spec’d the trailers, the fleet dept and DB R&D team must’ve stop off at my local kindergarten for inspiration as the clear windows in the upper inner curtain are pointless as it easier just to look up thru the bottom of the mesh deck to see what’s there (what difficult about oh look …there’s a pallet I’ll have to pull the curtain out the way 
). The clear panels will ultimately become discoloured, torn or damaged rendering them useless.
The elastic fitted to the inner curtain straps is a wonderful thing, but when the person who buckles it up doesn’t pull the straps up tight when they buckle up it leaves a lot of “give” in the straps, which is not ideal if you happen to pick up a sealed trunk or inter site load and discover at the delivery point when you open it up that a 6” strip of elastic was only thing holding the hook and load in place.
Some of the TIR cords supplied with the trailers have eyelets fitted rather than ■■■■■■■, these eyelets connect to a short cord for the encripter, the eyelets are getting crushed (probably by the Forkies who don’t stow the cords while unloading) rendering them useless.
The bracket for the winding handles doesn’t retain the handle and it bounces out while your going down the road. The pointy shoe brigade has told the drivers not to bend the bracket up so it grips the handle as it’s a “warranty” issue, meanwhile the driver faces a potential issue of being stopped by DSVA coz it’s swinging in the wind.
Why B&Q never spec’d ratchets at both ends of the curtain is a mystery, because if you have a split load or a few pallets of backhaul that’s at the front or on the swan neck it would be easier just to open the front, but no you have to undo all the curtain buckles, release the ratchet at the back just to open the front, which is a real laugh at this time of year when storm Jorge (or whichever storm) is blowing
I’ve only done it once and that was due to trailer brakes locking solid with the slightest application of the footbrake which wouldn’t release until the vehicle was stationary. Dropped EBS suzie and yellow line off and drove accordingly on the way home.
AF1:
I’ve only done it once and that was due to trailer brakes locking solid with the slightest application of the footbrake which wouldn’t release until the vehicle was stationary. Dropped EBS suzie and yellow line off and drove accordingly on the way home.
You drove home with no brakes 
Terry T:
AF1:
I’ve only done it once and that was due to trailer brakes locking solid with the slightest application of the footbrake which wouldn’t release until the vehicle was stationary. Dropped EBS suzie and yellow line off and drove accordingly on the way home.You drove home with no brakes
Just the tractor unit brakes. With a lightly laden trailer on quiet roads. It’s not a massive issue.
peirre:
Slightly (way) off topic rant,the 60? new/refurb DonBur deckers recently supplied to B&Q are horrendous, the sliders at the front for the suzies need the Incredible Hulk to drag it in/out, the new feature that screams at you if you pull the red airline off before pulling the parking brake on and winding down the legs, is something that will ultimately malfunction and be an added maintenance cost, I think that it will eventually get disconnected when the pointy shoe brigade figure out it’s cheaper to disconnect it rather than repair it. I know they are trying to teach /re-educate drivers how to drop trailers because Tomaski Dicksku & Harryski have dropped several trailers on their knees and it’s costing them money, but drivers do the trailer walk round routine their way and you’ll never change them.
I figure B&Q spec’d the trailers, the fleet dept and DB R&D team must’ve stop off at my local kindergarten for inspiration as the clear windows in the upper inner curtain are pointless as it easier just to look up thru the bottom of the mesh deck to see what’s there (what difficult about oh look …there’s a pallet I’ll have to pull the curtain out the way
The elastic fitted to the inner curtain straps is a wonderful thing, but when the person who buckles it up doesn’t pull the straps up tight when they buckle up it leaves a lot of “give” in the straps, which is not ideal if you happen to pick up a sealed trunk or inter site load and discover at the delivery point when you open it up that a 6” strip of elastic was only thing holding the hook and load in place.
Some of the TIR cords supplied with the trailers have eyelets fitted rather than ■■■■■■■, these eyelets connect to a short cord for the encripter, the eyelets are getting crushed (probably by the Forkies who don’t stow the cords while unloading) rendering them useless.
The bracket for the winding handles doesn’t retain the handle and it bounces out while your going down the road. The pointy shoe brigade has told the drivers not to bend the bracket up so it grips the handle as it’s a “warranty” issue, meanwhile the driver faces a potential issue of being stopped by DSVA coz it’s swinging in the wind.
Why B&Q never spec’d ratchets at both ends of the curtain is a mystery, because if you have a split load or a few pallets of backhaul that’s at the front or on the swan neck it would be easier just to open the front, but no you have to undo all the curtain buckles, release the ratchet at the back just to open the front, which is a real laugh at this time of year when storm Jorge (or whichever storm) is blowing
Good feedback, which shows why pointy shoe, never done the job shouldn’t be allowed to spec equipment.
Don-Bur:
yourhavingalarf:
I have known drivers disconnect the EBS lead deliberately to increase cornering speeds with auto braked trailers.We had also suspected that but found it difficult to believe. Thank you for the feedback.
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whats difficult about understanding that some drivers would rather drive a lorry with 1 less irritating and unrequired electronic hindrance ■■
cav551:
We have had ABS and then EBS suzies for over 20 years now yet we still get the same lame, old, nonsense excuse trotted out about the cab warning light being on: “because it’s only a compatibilty problem between the unit and the trailer… so it’s OK to take it out.” And we are hearing this not just from the ignorant office staff but from the ‘skilled’ fitters and workshop managers whose job it is to fix the problem.
Thank you for this feedback. It seems with some drivers to be a habitual problem. We aware that orange ABS warnings in the cab are commonly translated as a “compatibility” issue with the trailer.
Worrying…
dieseldog999:
Don-Bur:
dieseldog999:
simple.they are a pain in the ■■■■,so leave them off…also…if you get stopped and the ans/ebs lead or leads are unplugged,then you get an instant prohibition.
as soon as you plug them back in,then 2 mins later you get another letter lifting the prohibition and the vosa jobsworth looks like he has earned his wages from you and hopefully buggers off to look elsewhere without keeping looking at you to find something else thats wrong…works that way for me.Interesting. When you say they’re a pain, is that because of the tricky clip that has to be applied or is it just that it’s another (5th) line that doesn’t really affect the trailer anyway?
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just an unnecessary pain that is only a constant irritation if your cracking on.
the clip has nothing to do with it though that in itself is something to ignore even if you wanted to plug it in.
if your working for tesco where your paid to do your shift as a rolling roadblock then you will never know if its plugged in or not,but ptjerwise if your not hanging about then there is a train of thought that its less hassle just leaving it unplugged which brings us back in a circle because its a pain…pt it in the same box as lane departure/adaptive braking ect…it all works well when a robot is battering around a track in stuttgard where the plan is for robots to drive,but put it into trucks where humans drive and its just another reason to bale out of the industry as quick as possible and leave it to the stobart type lemmings.
Thanks you - really interesting feedback.
Kwikfit:
When doing some agency work for tesco’s (fridge boxes) we used to sometimes disconnect the EBS/ABS when reversing into somewhere tight as the anti collision sensors picked up on naturally close things and jammed the brakes on very sharply.
Never when on the public highway tho, not sure who’s trailers they were.
Thank you. I understand the soft-docking issues so yes, that would be an incentive.
Silver_Surfer:
Tude:
Don Bur…Worst trailers I have ever had the displeasure to use, in almost every way…So pleased that I now work at a place that does not use them.A successful long standing British manufacturer comes on the site to ask drivers for information on a particular subject which makes a change from some of the BS on here and you post that generalised crap which has nothing to do with the topic. [emoji849]
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We have nonetheless opened a private off-topic dialogue to understand the reasoning. We learn a lot from drivers so it’s important to welcome all feedback.
adam277:
I suspect due to intermittent warning light that can come up repeatedly while driving. (Mainly seems a problem with DAFs in my experience)
Can be quite annoying when your driving and every 30 secs it warns you about the abs.But still seems pretty stupid not to connect it.
Thank you. I suspect an intermittent ABS light would suggest a poor connection or worn line. Interesting that you’ve highlighted DAFs.
axletramp:
I sometimes found difficulty in fitting the clippy thing that holds it in the socket.
As if the bolts used were too big across the flats causing interference.
Something heavy usually persuaded the clip to hold the plug securely.
Thank you. The clip is awkward, especially if it’s cold, raining and the clip is covered in grease! Unfortunately, this is a standard coupling plug and we can’t alter it.
trevHCS:
If its connected to a DAF then annoying errors might be a factor like constant “ABS / EBS malfunction” but thats a DAF problem and not specific to certain trailers. No one seems to know why it does that.If its on deckers my suspicion would be the same people who refuse to strap anything (often inc internals) and wonder why the 1T IBCs move, thus enacting the auto braking. Only had it kick in once in 2 years of driving deckers but I do strap…scary number don’t.
We know that this is an issue; particularly on curtainsided double deckers. Interesting to note that the “auto braking” roll stability system should be kicking in before load shift, even if it isn’t strapped. Poor load restraint only serves to increase the risks you already have when you don’t have a good EBS connection.
bobbya:
cgscott:
trevHCS:
If its connected to a DAF then annoying errors might be a factor like constant “ABS / EBS malfunction” but thats a DAF problem and not specific to certain trailers. No one seems to know why it does that.If its on deckers my suspicion would be the same people who refuse to strap anything (often inc internals) and wonder why the 1T IBCs move, thus enacting the auto braking. Only had it kick in once in 2 years of driving deckers but I do strap…scary number don’t.
Such a good boy for strapping. Well done you
Another one who’s too idle to strap a load,why not take a bit of pride in your work,its not big nor clever,dont bother replying I’m not here to feed the trolls.
Strapping is another issue but one that we’re very keen to address. As part of the HSE Load Restraint Steering Group, we’re all too aware of the dangers of poor trailer specification, damaged straps and failure to apply them correctly. We’re happy to answer questions on a different thread on TN if anyone is interested.