Harry Monk:
dozy:
The only thing I can Blaine this driver is apparently accepting this crap , if it meant I wasn’t getting home they’d of got both barrels & some , ZB would I have a diplomatic conversation with a load of clowns [zb] my week upWould you normally automatically expect to be tipped immediately if you turned up at 14:00 for a 17:00 booking?
I would more expect the words Fox trot Oscar
Carryfast:
3 I only went back under an ultimatum by the union work according to agreements or be sacked.
When even the Trade Union side with the management against one of their own members then you just know he must be universally regarded as “a chocolate teapot”. 
Harry Monk:
Me doing continental work in the 1980s or running my own truck in the 2010s isn’t really relevant to this scenario.
Now, now Harry, mentioning continental work and the 1980’s to Carryfast is just cruel! 
Yet another thread totally cattle trucked by the usual moronic statements by the usual moron. Why do you all keep answering him?
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
3 I only went back under an ultimatum by the union work according to agreements or be sacked.When even the Trade Union side with the management against one of their own members then you just know he must be universally regarded as “a chocolate teapot”.
When the union agree to such a change in terms and conditions without consultation let alone ballot then you just know that something stinks.
The agreement didn’t just affect me and I wasn’t the only one who refused.
In fact I was joined and supported in that refusal by my own depot’s shop steward and most of the other drivers from our depot and other depots.
If it had gone to ballot the Union would have lost.
But I was the only one of them who ‘continued’ to refuse requiring a union ultimatum.
With hindsight should have walked away at that point.
peterm:
Yet another thread totally cattle trucked by the usual moronic statements by the usual moron. Why do you all keep answering him?
He’s like a mozzie bite, we know we shouldn’t scratch it, but it’s an involuntary reaction.
Carryfast:
Why did my employers pay compensation based on ‘contributory causation’ in that case.
It was the lesser of two evils. The employer, union and colleagues had a gutfull of your laziness and bs, a sentiment that seems to follow wherever you go.
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
No one would refuse to run a load of pallets to the rear of the load deck with a pallet truck without good reason and the potential of having your health and career wrecked by being used as a human forklift, next time, is good reason.The driver wasn’t expected to help to tip his own container (which contained palletised industrial catering equipment, the maximum weight of any pallet being probably not much more than 100kg). He was offered the chance to be tipped three hours before his booking time but there was only one warehouse staff member who would be able to do this and he would be driving the fork lift, so the driver would have to assist.
Me doing continental work in the 1980s or running my own truck in the 2010s isn’t really relevant to this scenario.
I was referring to Wheelnut not you.If I’ve got it right he had the luxury of being an owner driver running around Europe so plenty of time sat watching the scenery go by telling others not so lucky how good it all was.
Did you actually read the bit in red.He didn’t refuse because he didn’t want to shift a few pallets to the end of the deck with a pallet truck.
He refused because he knew the score regarding container work and didn’t want to get caught up in setting himself up for any precedents in that regard, as contained within your own post.
peterm:
Yet another thread totally cattle trucked by the usual moronic statements by the usual moron. Why do you all keep answering him?
Harry asked a question.
The obvious answer didn’t go the way he and you want it to go.
If you’re all so keen to work as a warehouse labourer then get on with it.Don’t try to drag others who know better with you.
Star down under.:
Carryfast:
Why did my employers pay compensation based on ‘contributory causation’ in that case.It was the lesser of two evils. The employer, union and colleagues had a gutfull of your laziness and bs, a sentiment that seems to follow wherever you go.
What was the ‘other’ supposed greater evil bearing in mind I was gone done and dusted at that point in time.It was actually the Union who argued the case for compensation.The union also intended to make a case for unfair dismissal and I told them no point with that medical report.It doesn’t seem to fit your script just like the container driver’s obvious reasoning doesn’t fit Harry’s.
Carryfast:
Star down under.:
Change the record Carryfast, you polloute every thread to which you contribute, with this written diarrhoea.Exactly what have you contributed to the thread.
I’ve made the case as to why the container driver probably would have declined the offer of helping to tip the load.
Especially in an environment moving towards more localised work involving ( much ) less driving time between drops/collections.
If you want to do the job of labourer/driver maybe you should leave Australia and apply to help reduce the ‘driver shortage’ here caused by drivers voting with their feet.
Why would he want to leave Australia to pay taxes to fund your life … he is right in what he said… the drivel
From your post is nonstop , know all know nothing … I bet you were the driver everyone avoided at work.
Geoffrey, seeing as you dont carry anything, fast, slow or otherwise, you should change your username to Ergophobia, it would be more accurate.
Star down under.:
Geoffrey, seeing as you dont carry anything, fast, slow or otherwise, you should change your username to Ergophobia, it would be more accurate.
StuckFast?
Franglais:
Star down under.:
Geoffrey, seeing as you dont carry anything, fast, slow or otherwise, you should change your username to Ergophobia, it would be more accurate.
StuckFast?
Carryfast:
I was referring to Wheelnut not you.If I’ve got it right he had the luxury of being an owner driver running around Europe so plenty of time sat watching the scenery go by telling others not so lucky how good it all was.
It’s not luck. And clear you never did it
Star down under.:
Franglais:
Star down under.:
Geoffrey, seeing as you dont carry anything, fast, slow or otherwise, you should change your username to Ergophobia, it would be more accurate.
StuckFast?
maybe “limp mode”… 
Carryfast:
Star down under.:
Carryfast:
Why did my employers pay compensation based on ‘contributory causation’ in that case.It was the lesser of two evils. The employer, union and colleagues had a gutfull of your laziness and bs, a sentiment that seems to follow wherever you go.
What was the ‘other’ supposed greater evil bearing in mind I was gone done and dusted at that point in time.It was actually the Union who argued the case for compensation.The union also intended to make a case for unfair dismissal and I told them no point with that medical report.It doesn’t seem to fit your script just like the container driver’s obvious reasoning doesn’t fit Harry’s.
Your stories change with each telling.
m.a.n rules:
Star down under.:
Franglais:
Star down under.:
Geoffrey, seeing as you dont carry anything, fast, slow or otherwise, you should change your username to Ergophobia, it would be more accurate.
StuckFast?
maybe “limp mode”…
You’re too generous.
Carryfast:
peterm:
Yet another thread totally cattle trucked by the usual moronic statements by the usual moron. Why do you all keep answering him?Harry asked a question.
The obvious answer didn’t go the way he and you want it to go.
I didn’t want the question to go either way. After all, it was no skin off my nose if the driver had to wait for his booking time.
Carryfast:
Harry asked a question.
The obvious answer didn’t go the way he and you want it to go.
If you’re all so keen to work as a warehouse labourer then get on with it.Don’t try to drag others who know better with you.
I think you seriously need to get some help. This unhealthy obsession you have that we are all working as warehouse labourers can’t be doing you any good.