Checked my deliveries for tomorrow which are in London and found out one of my drops is on a Red Route… I have a 3rd of an artic to tip at this drop. Called the delivery point contact up and it looks like they will have to hand ball the stuff off the back of the lorry.
Ok I know Red Routes are no stopping. But how else is stuff going to get there■■?
Anyone who works in London able to offer any advice? Is it just a ticket fine or what?
Last time we got done it was £150 which after some correspondence forward and back got dropped .
There are two different kind of red routes, the double lined one, no stopping at all 24/7 and the single red lined one, all have different restrictions and are marked accordingly, not many will allow you to stop during the day though.
The only option you have is find the closest red box, you can stop in those. Stopping on a red route will get you a guaranteed ticket and it won’t be long, especially with all the cameras around, you won’t even know it until a week or so. Just read the sign, some boxes are for loading/unloading with a time restriction, some are only for stopping with a time restriction.
You either get into one of the delivery boxes, then take your chance with a warden, as the 20 min restrictions are usually unrealistic, or it goes outside of the restrictions, ie 7pm to 7am, but then you have to watch the lbts, so 7pm is your only real alternative if you don’t want to risk a ticket. If it’s a 24hr red route, I’d just call in sick 
OVLOV JAY:
You either get into one of the delivery boxes, then take your chance with a warden, as the 20 min restrictions are usually unrealistic, or it goes outside of the restrictions, ie 7pm to 7am, but then you have to watch the lbts, so 7pm is your only real alternative if you don’t want to risk a ticket. If it’s a 24hr red route, I’d just call in sick
Plenty of single reds have 10-16 lifted restrictions for 20mins, as I said in my post above read the signs on the road you are delivering on, they are all different if a single red, have a breeze through google maps and see if you can figure out where your drop is and find the box or sign. IF there is no lifted restriction with a time, then you have to find the nearest box or risk the fine.
Hmmm it has Double Red Lines… Street viewed it and any red boxes are car sized …
Is it just a parking ticket or is it worse than that?
Thruxton:
Hmmm it has Double Red Lines… Street viewed it and any red boxes are car sized …
Is it just a parking ticket or is it worse than that?
Don’t even bother unless you know that the customer will pay for the ticket. Just drive by, look then say to the office that its double reds so no drop.
Company will normally pay for parking tickets … So I wonder if it is worse than a parking ticket. Doing delivery in an artic
Parking ticket only £130 but if paid with 14 - 21 days then its only £65 …
If your company pay for parking tickets and there is no box big enough about near to the drop location… just simply give the company the heads up and there might be a possibility of a fine… covering your own arse
You can apply for dispensation to stop on a red route under certain circumstances:
But they want 5 days notice!
dispensation to stop on a red route
That’s a waste of time…firstly the time fact for approval and they still want you to pay £48 for the privilege for it… might as well just take the ticket…just another money making scam
Radar19:
Just drive by, look then say to the office that its double reds so no drop.
That would be my reaction. The more failed deliveries there are in London because of this crap and the more businesses complain to the councils and Boris the quicker they might do something about it.
Park wherever it suits. I always did. Ring the office and tell them you’re bringing it back otherwise.
I used to deliver to the Grosvenor Hotel, back on my rigid days, doorway wouldn’t take a pallet, and the goods lift was about 2x3ft. I regularly turned up with 3 tonne, no way would that ever get tipped in 20 mins. Just used to chuck it in the bus lane. Tbh, some of the wardens were ok, they’d tell me their supervisor didn’t start work until 7, and if I could be gone by then, I could possibly not exist.
Ended up telling the TM to either take me off London, pay the tickets or expect sickies. No way was I going to drive into that craphole, starting at 2am, to end up doing the day out of pocket.
Did 3 years there and never got charged for a ticket.
Just do it. It’s just a PCN, nothing more. As long as your office pays tickets, carry on. If they don’t pay tickets, the drop doesn’t get done. Simple.
Pass the problem up the foodchain, people are keen to tell us that we’re “only” drivers and not paid to think. Play them at their own game and seek guidance from your boss, that way any problems come back to his doorstep.
First time I did the Grosvenor drop I mentioned above, I rang the traffic office, hoping to speak to one of the “planners” that could direct me to the delivery area (there isn’t one, it transpires)
Ended up getting the TM on the phone. So I asked him to pass me onto Neil or Warren, as I knew he wouldn’t have a clue, twunt didn’t know how to do that with the phone, so he just hung up.
So I just parked up. On double reds.
This is where the haulage industry lets itself down. Previous knowledge of a drop in a restricted area should instantly bring up a procedure for delivery, and payment of any fines. No agreement between haulier and customer then the drop doesn’t get done - before the goods are even loaded onto the lorry!
Surely this is up to the customer to sort out, he is the one on a Red Route. If the customer doesn’t want to pay any fines then no delivery - but the haulage industry just rolls over and gives in. 