Bud143:
Sounds like the op has never done bulk work.The tailgate may well have been shut and the chippings could have come from anywhere off his trailer.If his sheet was on they would fall onto the floor and not be blown out.Are you sure the tyres on his trailer havent picked any up off the road?Chippings dont usually stick in bcause when you pull forward the back door as a rule slams against the body and if any were left in they would come out as the trailer is still in the air.
No.This was not a stray stone thrown up from a rear tyre. It was a complete barrage of stones spraying following traffic. So the tailgate was either loose, badly fitting or unfastened.
Even an empty tipper will have some residue from it’s last load, and it’s a pity to cause so much chaos for following vehicles when all it takes is a quick sweep out by the driver after he’s tipped his load.
Perhaps sand or compost is not such a problem (unless your following said tipper on a motorbike), but chippings and small rocks spraying the following traffic is just a sign of a lazy careless driver. Certainly NOT a professional!
Now here comes the health and and safety bit; Not allowed to climb into tipping body unless we use the “safe access platforms”. The type of sheeting system can make a difference. I prefer the sort you see on Hanson tippers, complete coverage no dust gets out no rain gets in. Not practical on a tipper used on muck and demolition work like ours that have the sort rolled out from the front. Crap for lime as it bloes out the sides, nothing more I can do once I’ve checked the load is level and sheeted blame the company for not buying the right system.
Agree though, all it takes is a brush and a wallpaper scraper around the tailgate before and after it’s shut.
msgyorkie:
Last year I had a call from the office that went like this…
Office…“Check your tailboard you are ■■■■■■■ stone and have cracked somebodys windscreen, the drivers puting a claim in”
Me…“errrrrrrm not me im empty”
Office…“Well it must have been the last load…you are on the A38 arnt you?”
Me…“Yup im on the A38 but my last load was sand…hang on ill check paperwork…yep my last 12 loads over 3 days have all been sand so bollox to that”
Office…“The [zb] is trying it on then!!”
no [zb] sherlock!!
Basically what happened to me. Chancer trying it on.
In my case the stone came off the top of the lorry.Its not easy for a tipper driver to see every single stone that may have got left on top of the easy sheet or whatever.I agree with Hammer,there are people that will try to blame a tipper when the stone has actually been thrown up off the road.
As has been said drivers are not in some places allowed to get out of the cab to check the rear door of the tipper.I once had a problem with a door not closing properly .I was on a building site ,one of the lads stopped me and helped to fix the door.
Always love the “stone came off the lorry” when I was empty at the time or carrying sand or compost.
Even an empty tipper will have some residue from it’s last load, and it’s a pity to cause so much chaos for following vehicles when all it takes is a quick sweep out by the driver after he’s tipped his load.
Perhaps sand or compost is not such a problem (unless your following said tipper on a motorbike), but chippings and small rocks spraying the following traffic is just a sign of a lazy careless driver. Certainly NOT a professional!
You cant sweep out anymore, health and safety regs don’t allow you to get in the body, empty or loaded.
Whilst overtaking was the phrase used dude. I know where you were going with that, but to be fair to the op he/she should not be prevented from overtaking a vehicle just “in case” anything flies off it.
Have been through this scenario quite a few times,once my independent claims investigator contacts the complainant there is a strange lack of further contact from them!!
car driver have to accept this happends i always keep a good distants from tipper and flat bed lorrys and van as you never know what might fly out the back at anygive moment
Bud143:
Sounds like the op has never done bulk work.The tailgate may well have been shut and the chippings could have come from anywhere off his trailer.If his sheet was on they would fall onto the floor and not be blown out.Are you sure the tyres on his trailer havent picked any up off the road?Chippings dont usually stick in bcause when you pull forward the back door as a rule slams against the body and if any were left in they would come out as the trailer is still in the air.
No.This was not a stray stone thrown up from a rear tyre. It was a complete barrage of stones spraying following traffic. So the tailgate was either loose, badly fitting or unfastened.
Probably havent cleaned the seal before shutting back door by the sound of it!
Always love the “stone came off the lorry” when I was empty at the time or carrying sand or compost.
Even an empty tipper will have some residue from it’s last load, and it’s a pity to cause so much chaos for following vehicles when all it takes is a quick sweep out by the driver after he’s tipped his load.
Perhaps sand or compost is not such a problem (unless your following said tipper on a motorbike), but chippings and small rocks spraying the following traffic is just a sign of a lazy careless driver. Certainly NOT a professional!
You cant sweep out anymore, health and safety regs don’t allow you to get in the body, empty or loaded.
H’mm, I can see your point mate. Health and Safety ■■■■■ though… consider a large rock/stone bouncing onto the road from an otherwise empty tipper, that then clouts a following biker on the head/face? I came close but luckily it missed and I had my visor down too. Where’s the Health and Safety argument then? I’ve done virtually all types of HGV work inc car transporters (No safety harness required!!) but I never fancied or done tippers… but if it was me I’d say B*ll@cks to Health and Safety - I’d drive my motor out the quarry and stop in the nearest layby and sweep the bugger out!! NO excuses!!
jrt:
car driver have to accept this happends i always keep a good distants from tipper and flat bed lorrys and van as you never know what might fly out the back at anygive moment
We were on a dual carriageway overtaking the tipper, we’d moved out well in advance. This wasn’t a case of being on a single carriageway driving up his ar@e or anything!
Always love the “stone came off the lorry” when I was empty at the time or carrying sand or compost.
Even an empty tipper will have some residue from it’s last load, and it’s a pity to cause so much chaos for following vehicles when all it takes is a quick sweep out by the driver after he’s tipped his load.
Perhaps sand or compost is not such a problem (unless your following said tipper on a motorbike), but chippings and small rocks spraying the following traffic is just a sign of a lazy careless driver. Certainly NOT a professional!
You cant sweep out anymore, health and safety regs don’t allow you to get in the body, empty or loaded.
Seriously . . does that reg apply to walking floors aswell
A large rock or stone wouldn’t be stuck in a tipping body as clean stone and shingle rushes out. Sand, soil, lime, clay and compost tend to stick and it’s when you leave it and load stone, rubble etc that you get build up.
Stones coming off moving wagons are as Dave said, often trapped in sheeting systems or stuck in tailgate hinges.
I blame auto tailgates for much of the problem; driver clicks a switch, tips, lowers body, clicks a switch and drives off. At no point has Drive seen the state of the tailgate or even if it’s locked securely.
maybe he couldnt do up his tailgate because his hands were to sore where he drags his knuckles on the floor walking along,ive allways found tipper drivers the thickest of the thick,flat out on any road and [zb] anyone else ime coming through,8 wheelers are the worst chasing the bonus,and when ime on motorway work i can do what i like with my yellow light on my cab and my high viz jacket on and rigger boots,sorry to stereotype any driver but if the cap fits!!!
