1968kg:
How hard is it for you to understand that selecting rest first makes no difference?
Read my above reply again and you will see it most defiantly does make and difference. Everything on that machine is recorded otherwise why is it there?
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.
So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type.
1968kg:
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type.
You obviously don’t understand what I’m saying-
When you finish your day and you are about to take your card out put it on rest. The next day you come in and insert your card it will come up on the machine the time you took out your card. It will then show the time you took it out and the time and date you inserted it with the bed symbol next to it. It then says manual entry, press ok and it will then show how long you’ve been on rest. So in itself it is a manual entry but all your doing is press ok rather than messing about with times and scrolling up and down.
That way you are accounting for what you’ve been doing between taking out the card and re inserting it.
Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work. That way it’s open to all sorts of questions should something happen. It will be recorded on the card because when you come in the following day and insert it you are telling the machine and the card you have been on bed for x amount of hours.
If you do other work after you’ve finished driving just leave the card in the machine while you do your other work for x amount of hours or minutes and put it on bed before going home and ejecting your card.
It really is simple and not complicated but if you disagree that’s fair enough. You did it your way and ill do it mine.
I’ve only been driving trucks 20 years so perhaps I’ve been doing it wrong all this time!
Coolrider:
1968kg:
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type
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Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work.
Nonsense,
There are approx 200 drivers at our place who eject their card whilst on other work, who then hand in paperwork/ clock out etc.
The following day they clock in/ get paperwork etc and then insert their card and make a manual entry to finish the previous day and start the new day.
It really is that simple.
I have read what you said but still say it makes no difference what mode it’s on when you eject, but in any case I have to do manual entries as I often change vehicles during the day or do other work after ejecting.
I always do an entry to show the same time as my clocking in and out time, you might not have to do that but every driver ought to know how to do a manual entry although many don’t bother I know.
the tacho I use you never have to select other work it automatically changes when you drive and stop the engine. You do have to select POA for obvious reasons. This is what my employer has told me any way and how it has seemed to be working.
I do have to do a manual entry though as I take card out when I get back to depot then de-brief etc in the office which takes 10-15 minutes.
redboxer850:
Coolrider:
1968kg:
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type
.
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Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work.Nonsense,
There are approx 200 drivers at our place who eject their card whilst on other work, who then hand in paperwork/ clock out etc.
The following day they clock in/ get paperwork etc and then insert their card and make a manual entry to finish the previous day and start the new day.It really is that simple.
This is how I’ve been told to do it
redboxer850:
Coolrider:
1968kg:
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type
.
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Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work.Nonsense,
There are approx 200 drivers at our place who eject their card whilst on other work, who then hand in paperwork/ clock out etc.
The following day they clock in/ get paperwork etc and then insert their card and make a manual entry to finish the previous day and start the new day.It really is that simple.
This is my understanding of how things should be done and why manual entry function is there.
A lot of drivers cab hop so setting the Tacho to rest before you go home will make no difference of that unit has been taken straight out for a night shift.
Eg
Back to yard 18:00
Empty unit of your stuff, pull card out, take keys and paperwork in end shift 18:15.
Back in next morning start work by collecting keys, paperwork etc @ 06:00.
Go to unit open up card in @ 06:10.
manual entry for the 15 mins other work at end of last shift (18:00-18:15)
Manual entry for start of new day 06:00-06:10 (getting keys etc)
Tacho set to Other Work and crack on.
This
dcgpx:
toshtwentythree:
I have just been advised that ALL hours of my life have to be accounted for… When I finish my shift at 6pm I eject my card and put it in my pocket…At 7am the next morning I put the card back in…Manual entry…NO In the UK …Yes, and thats it…Time to drive…
Now that it has come to my attention Im not sure what steps to take now…Must be missing something? This is what I do.
Turn up at yard, straight to truck, card in. Asks if on rest till now, yes, begin UK - yes. Ready to drive.
End of shift, hand all paperwork in etc. back to truck, card onto rest- eject - go home!
Don’t need to do any manual entry ?
Alright by some I’ve got a 30 minute journey in the van to get back to the company… But the stoneridge tacho won’t let me make manual entries 
I put card in, waited, tied my shoelace, looked up and it had come up with the screen saying I’d done 1 minute of other work… Awful bloody thing. I once recorded I’d done other work from 00:00 in the morning ill 16:30ish when I put the card in…
Always put mine in rest at the end of a shift for a few minutes while I do paperwork etc.
Always do 15 mins other work at the start as well. I always do my checks, which never take me 15 minutes, especially when it’s raining! But it keeps the DVSA man happy if I get stopped.
Coolrider:
1968kg:
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type.
You obviously don’t understand what I’m saying-
When you finish your day and you are about to take your card out put it on rest. The next day you come in and insert your card it will come up on the machine the time you took out your card. It will then show the time you took it out and the time and date you inserted it with the bed symbol next to it. It then says manual entry, press ok and it will then show how long you’ve been on rest. So in itself it is a manual entry but all your doing is press ok rather than messing about with times and scrolling up and down.
That way you are accounting for what you’ve been doing between taking out the card and re inserting it.
Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work. That way it’s open to all sorts of questions should something happen. It will be recorded on the card because when you come in the following day and insert it you are telling the machine and the card you have been on bed for x amount of hours.
If you do other work after you’ve finished driving just leave the card in the machine while you do your other work for x amount of hours or minutes and put it on bed before going home and ejecting your card.
It really is simple and not complicated but if you disagree that’s fair enough. You did it your way and ill do it mine.
I’ve only been driving trucks 20 years so perhaps I’ve been doing it wrong all this time!
Rubbish.
Seany:
Coolrider:
1968kg:
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type.
You obviously don’t understand what I’m saying-
When you finish your day and you are about to take your card out put it on rest. The next day you come in and insert your card it will come up on the machine the time you took out your card. It will then show the time you took it out and the time and date you inserted it with the bed symbol next to it. It then says manual entry, press ok and it will then show how long you’ve been on rest. So in itself it is a manual entry but all your doing is press ok rather than messing about with times and scrolling up and down.
That way you are accounting for what you’ve been doing between taking out the card and re inserting it.
Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work. That way it’s open to all sorts of questions should something happen. It will be recorded on the card because when you come in the following day and insert it you are telling the machine and the card you have been on bed for x amount of hours.
If you do other work after you’ve finished driving just leave the card in the machine while you do your other work for x amount of hours or minutes and put it on bed before going home and ejecting your card.
It really is simple and not complicated but if you disagree that’s fair enough. You did it your way and ill do it mine.
I’ve only been driving trucks 20 years so perhaps I’ve been doing it wrong all this time!Rubbish.
Rubbish? Please explain why. Give us all a lesson on your expert knowledge 
Hammy747:
Always put mine in rest at the end of a shift for a few minutes while I do paperwork etc.Always do 15 mins other work at the start as well. I always do my checks, which never take me 15 minutes, especially when it’s raining! But it keeps the DVSA man happy if I get stopped.
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+1 
I do a manual entry in the morning if I have done other work etc before I get to the truck… Or if I have done other work and no driving the previous day etc…What ever, it gets recorded
You obviously don’t understand what I’m saying-
When you finish your day and you are about to take your card out put it on rest. The next day you come in and insert your card it will come up on the machine the time you took out your card. It will then show the time you took it out and the time and date you inserted it with the bed symbol next to it. It then says manual entry, press ok and it will then show how long you’ve been on rest. So in itself it is a manual entry but all your doing is press ok rather than messing about with times and scrolling up and down.
That way you are accounting for what you’ve been doing between taking out the card and re inserting it.
Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work. That way it’s open to all sorts of questions should something happen. It will be recorded on the card because when you come in the following day and insert it you are telling the machine and the card you have been on bed for x amount of hours.
If you do other work after you’ve finished driving just leave the card in the machine while you do your other work for x amount of hours or minutes and put it on bed before going home and ejecting your card.
It really is simple and not complicated but if you disagree that’s fair enough. You did it your way and ill do it mine.
I’ve only been driving trucks 20 years so perhaps I’ve been doing it wrong all this time!
What a load of c*ck
what’s the point of putting it on rest when the warehouse lads are moving it about did u used to put your analogue on rest with no tacho in ?
Coolrider:
Seany:
Coolrider:
1968kg:
The head records constantly, but the info is only recorded on the card whilst it’s inserted , how can it be otherwise? And why does the manual entry feature exist?
If you do no other work while the card is out you don’t need manual entries.
If you do other work or poa it has to be recorded manually.So regardless of the mode when you eject when you re-insert and don’t do a manual entry the missing time will go down as rest or ? depending on the type.
You obviously don’t understand what I’m saying-
When you finish your day and you are about to take your card out put it on rest. The next day you come in and insert your card it will come up on the machine the time you took out your card. It will then show the time you took it out and the time and date you inserted it with the bed symbol next to it. It then says manual entry, press ok and it will then show how long you’ve been on rest. So in itself it is a manual entry but all your doing is press ok rather than messing about with times and scrolling up and down.
That way you are accounting for what you’ve been doing between taking out the card and re inserting it.
Trust me VOSA will ask questions if you simply just eject while on other work. That way it’s open to all sorts of questions should something happen. It will be recorded on the card because when you come in the following day and insert it you are telling the machine and the card you have been on bed for x amount of hours.
If you do other work after you’ve finished driving just leave the card in the machine while you do your other work for x amount of hours or minutes and put it on bed before going home and ejecting your card.
It really is simple and not complicated but if you disagree that’s fair enough. You did it your way and ill do it mine.
I’ve only been driving trucks 20 years so perhaps I’ve been doing it wrong all this time!Rubbish.
Rubbish? Please explain why. Give us all a lesson on your expert knowledge
Plenty of people have tried to tell you you’re wrong but you’re not listening so I’m not going to bother lol
It seems odd to me how people seem to have a curious ‘fear’ of the potential repercussions of f**k all.
Stick your card in,do your checks,get on with your day. Finish your day,take your card out and sod off home.
If your card isn’t in,you are not at work(rest). Simples. Makes no difference whatsoever which symbol its on before ejection.
Is there a symbol for a pool table,getting ■■■■■■ and a row with the missus? If so please let me know-I will use it a lot.