Three weeks in

the maoster:
I see that there has been a small but significant change in the rhetoric we’re receiving re Covid. Last week it would kill any man woman or child regardless of physical fitness if it came within 500 miles of them. Today we are being told that nine out of ten deaths attributed to Covid happened to people with serious underlying health conditions.

The cynic in me asks why the sea change and what announcement are they building up to with this?

The death figures don’t illustrate the number of otherwise healthy people that are hospitalised, but do end up pulling through.

Winseer:
… and I’m still thinking that this is all a bigged-up hoax

IF it’s a hoax it can only logically be the fake virus followed by the real bioweapon forced bat virus ‘vaccine’.You’ll be directed to the vaccination point by the friendly WHO/UN enforcers who’ll know where to find you from your tracking app.Just as surely as those getting off the Auschwitz express were directed by the friendly camp staff to the showers.
youtube.com/watch?v=PoTG8VtiUU4

The real thing, followed by a mutually assured destruction response, doesn’t look so bad in that case does it.

As opposed to the worst of all worlds real bioweapon, managed apocalypse and surrender.

You think that rejoining the EU will fix that bearing in mind that IF it’s the latter we probably won’t be around to see the end of the ‘transition’ period while the former will probably come with an automatic extension period.

Let’s look at this from a “financial risk” angle for a moment:

You can trash your own personal household economy rather than take this 13% chance of dying from a disease, assuming you even catch it to start with…

That’s 100% chance of trashing your own economy by choice then - because you either chose not to take the chance, or were forced to not take the chance by our illustrious establishment right now.

Alternatively, we could have had no lock-down whatsoever, and let this disease run it’s course on a “pot luck” basis to which 13% of 50% likely to be exposed to it sooner or later - come to likely just another routine “natural causes” death at the end of the day…

It is a shame that there are no statistics that provide any answers to this following question:

Of people EACH age 1 though 90 - Divide up the manner of death down into what goes on the death certificate, where “Coronavirus” is job-lotted with all the other “respiritorial” forms of demise.

You disregard the data for “Under 1” and “over 90” because to get a proper measure - you ingore the high and low figures when collating data as “abberations”.
If you didn’t do thus, you’d be including all abortions and cot deaths as “deaths for the under 1 years old” category for instance…
Likewise, if you included the over 90 bracket, then the figure would be grossly distorted by the fact that statistically only around 1 in 1000 people live to MAKE it to such a ripe old age - before we even start.

Doesn’t anyone ANYWHERE seem just the teensy weensy bit suspicious meanwhile that
“So and so famous person tested positive for coronavirus” of which the PM is one of many…
and yet not ONE such PRE-diagnosed famous person - died from such an “up-front” diagnosis that we’re reading of in the media…
Where’s this 13% from those then■■?
Where’s “Celebrity self-isolating having declared 2 weeks ago - now having an open-coffined funeral, before being observed going through the crematorium curtains” hmm?

At the other end of the scale, we keep on hearing about “so and so person dies with Coronavirus” when they were NOT declared to have had it, and had gone home, waiting to die from it" beforehand.
Only after their deaths (which I’m not disputing are very real) - do we get to hear about it, meaning that how many countless thousands of people have come into contact with them during that “incubation period” when they didn’t even know they had it themselves, but the wider public didn’t know that they too are now running their own incubation periods because they were not informed of their exposure to infected persons?
Such public over-exposure - may (for all I know) have led to the vast majority of these daily deaths purely thanks to this scandalous handling of simple “Information Flow” over this entire crisis?

Thus, like most “Hoaxes” - the conspiracy against the wider public is that we don’t get the information we need to save the maximum number of lives, i.e. EVERYONE from things far more wider in scope than a mere medical issue…

There’s no serious effort being made to create a “vaccine”, because don’t you think it would be on some government’s contingency already if there had been?
Wouldn’t it have been better to use Martial Law rather than send our police on fool’s errands to round up dog walkers and beach strollers too, whilst heaving “infrastructure” upheaval now bristles with a black market boom, and crime wave tsunami to come that’ll complete the destruction of ALL our communities, starting with the largest first…?
We’re in month what? - Five or Six of 42 - by the end of which, 25% of us will be gone.
WHICH 25% though?
That’s for us decide on our own level.
I don’t want someone else choosing for me, which is why I reckon the economy should have been left alone from Lockdown, instead of handing it over to our criminal underworlds to manage for the forseeable future.

During the 1930’s depression years - many “Local businesses” were being run by Gangsters.
Why should it be any difference in this slump?
The gangsters are going to be rather more in number this time around, because the world’s population is that much higher than the 1930’s.
The only “Gangster Markets” that won’t be helped by this particular crisis and lock-down - are Prostitution and the People Trafficing “industries” if you will.
On the other hand, Narcotics, Money Laundering, “Domestic Crime” and “casual violence” will thrive in this new environment where our police cells don’t actually have an criminals in them. :frowning:

Even those people laughing and scoffing at types like me - might want to tread carefully with their currently cushy lifestyles - once the utilities start failing, food and drink supplies start turning up “tainted”, and our pets start going missing - assuming all of the above have not commenced somewhere by this point on a small scale underneath the mainstream media’s radar…

“Ending the Lockdown” might now be an even harder thing for ANY government of this country to bring about than Brexit!!!

Noremac:
The death figures don’t illustrate the number of otherwise healthy people that are hospitalised, but do end up pulling through.

That would be within the total recovery figures which are abysmal.Also no confirmation of long term immunity on recovery.But confirmation of no immunity reinfection and second infection is a lot worse.

Look after yourself take the advice given, forget all about the statistics, as somebody somewhere will be only to pleased to have their CYNICAL view of the statistics,and on TNUK its a dead CERT

The only “Gangster Markets” that won’t be helped by this particular crisis and lock-down - are Prostitution and the People Trafficing

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in her day then pamela anderson had hepatitis c
at that time,i couldnt care if she also had aids,bubonic plague,berri berri and the black death,id still have ploughed her till the cruelty man dragged me off of her.
nobody wanting to empty their ■■■■■■■■ will give a toss about covid and in case you hadnt noticed,then itslife as usual for the calais great unwashed no doubt riddled with covid or not 24/7 as money is money as these cretins are basically third world savages only out for themselves.

thesun.co.uk/news/11325577/ … lais-camp/

dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … Dover.html

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-51777008

Interesting post winseer…but i dont recall 800 deaths a day from winter flu bugs…unless for some reason they have never been reported in the same way, but i see no reason to do this. Maybe theyre trying to rid the world of aged folk and pensioners, think how much can be saved on that alone, give or take a few innocents along the way that dont fit with the age bracket Then we have the Chinese rumours…it was a bat that passed it on…no proof…it escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan via a scientist who passed it on…just theories eh !! but America is taking these seriously, why theres even a group asking Boris to send them the bill, and to boycott chinese goods…whatever next…i`m just waiting to get on with my life as soon as this ■■■■ is over and done with.

dieseldog999:
The only “Gangster Markets” that won’t be helped by this particular crisis and lock-down - are Prostitution and the People Trafficing

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in her day then pamela anderson had hepatitis c
at that time,i couldnt care if she also had aids,bubonic plague,berri berri and the black death,id still have ploughed her till the cruelty man dragged me off of her.
nobody wanting to empty their ■■■■■■■■ will give a toss about covid and in case you hadnt noticed,then itslife as usual for the calais great unwashed no doubt riddled with covid or not 24/7 as money is money as these cretins are basically third world savages only out for themselves.

thesun.co.uk/news/11325577/ … lais-camp/

dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … Dover.html

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-51777008

I was actually thinking along the lines that “Prostitution” wouldn’t do so well, because the punter now goes and blows it all on overpriced “Psst… Wanny buy a corgette?” in some dark alley where he is more worried about the next thing to stick in his own mouth rather than his thing in hers…(or his, if you will…) :neutral_face:

truckyboy:
Interesting post winseer…but i dont recall 800 deaths a day from winter flu bugs…unless for some reason they have never been reported in the same way, but i see no reason to do this. Maybe theyre trying to rid the world of aged folk and pensioners, think how much can be saved on that alone, give or take a few innocents along the way that dont fit with the age bracket Then we have the Chinese rumours…it was a bat that passed it on…no proof…it escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan via a scientist who passed it on…just theories eh !! but America is taking these seriously, why theres even a group asking Boris to send them the bill, and to boycott chinese goods…whatever next…i`m just waiting to get on with my life as soon as this [zb] is over and done with.

Collate all the seasonal deaths (any age) that take place from all medical ailments where “Respairatory Failure” ends up killing that person, as opposed to say, Cancer, Stroke, or Coronary Thrombosis…

Thus, you add (at very least) Pneumonia, Bronchitus, Plurosy, Flu, Cold complicated by AIDS, Operation Recovery complicated by MRSA (if the person dies in their sleep…) and basically anything else anyone would care to put on a death certificate that is merely NOT something clearly defined like “Cancer”, another big killer of the population IF you job-lot ALL cancers into one large group, rather than split them up into Pancreatic, Leukaemia, Brain Tumour, etc etc.

An interesting note on the page linked above - is that if “Deaths this week” are up 6082 above the 5-year national average, then that Covid declared deaths are 3716 deaths - means clearly that nearly HALF of this up-spike in the 5 year average doesn’t involve Cornonavirus at all.

Winseer:
An interesting note on the page linked above - is that if “Deaths this week” are up 6082 above the 5-year national average, then that Covid declared deaths are 3716 deaths - means clearly that nearly HALF of this up-spike in the 5 year average doesn’t involve Cornonavirus at all.

They’ve obvious said exactly that by specifying the Covid figure.No one cares about the actual figure it’s how that figure and cases is ‘increasing’ week on week and month on month that bothers them.Just hope it’s all kosher.

Because ‘if’ it’s the fake virus power grab and probably WHO ( CCP ) ‘vaccine’ scenario, that is actually worse than the real virus bioeweapon release, US eventually has to go to war with China to maintain credibility at home, scenario.

The word is US munitions factories are running flat out 24/7 as we speak. :wink:

truckyboy:
escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan via a scientist who passed it on…just theories eh !! but America is taking these seriously, why theres even a group asking Boris to send them the bill, and to boycott chinese goods…whatever next…i`m just waiting to get on with my life as soon as this [zb] is over and done with.

Things are moving a bit quicker than that.The US seems to be moving more towards deliberate release of a bioweapon, kamikaze carriers taking adavantage of WHO/CCP complicity, having tricked the west into bringing a bioweapon in.In line with Chi Haotian’s 2005 plan.Chinese casualties were all collateral damage as part of the delivery system and plausible deniability to avoid retaliation.

Get ready for WW3 if that proves correct. :wink:

Bugger any “Vaccine” which we’re already hearing is likely to involve treatment that is worse than the actual disease…

No one suspicious yet that any of these huge crowds that the police seem to not be reigning in properly - have not seen a massive cluster of new cases as of yet?

Meanwhile, it could be argued that there is a pattern where if you dislike Boris Johnson - you won’t be obeying this government’s lockdown instructions…
If you voted Tory in december - you’ll probably do as you’ve been told…

SO…

Where are the big spikes in new infections in particular among the young in Left-voting areas who are living it large, and ignoring the lockdown then?

“London getting a spike” - doth not a summer make.

There are other parts of this country that are solidly Labour - such as Liverpool for instance…

Any spike there way above and beyond the national average for the population density?

^^^^ don’t be daft, staying in all day drinking and watching tv? The citizens of Liverpool haven’t noticed any difference from any other day! :smiley:

the maoster:
^^^^ don’t be daft, staying in all day drinking and watching tv? The citizens of Liverpool haven’t noticed any difference from any other day! :smiley:

Alcoholic self isolation strategy.If the quarantine doesn’t stop the bugs then the alcohol will.Gets expensive though even at £25 for a bottle of Glennfidich. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Winseer:
Bugger any “Vaccine” which we’re already hearing is likely to involve treatment that is worse than the actual disease…

No one suspicious yet that any of these huge crowds that the police seem to not be reigning in properly - have not seen a massive cluster of new cases as of yet?

Meanwhile, it could be argued that there is a pattern where if you dislike Boris Johnson - you won’t be obeying this government’s lockdown instructions…
If you voted Tory in december - you’ll probably do as you’ve been told…

SO…

Where are the big spikes in new infections in particular among the young in Left-voting areas who are living it large, and ignoring the lockdown then?

“London getting a spike” - doth not a summer make.

There are other parts of this country that are solidly Labour - such as Liverpool for instance…

Any spike there way above and beyond the national average for the population density?

I didn’t vote LibDem in all but name.Can’t afford to go far even if I could be bothered to defy Bozo.
Fake virus to deliver real CCP/NWO bioweapon ‘vaccine’ is my worst case nightmare and wouldn’t trust the Brit CCP Vichy quisling regime an inch in that regard.The scary bit seems to be that the Bolsheviks and LibDem in all name Party are obviously united in that.Which explains why the Bolsheviks don’t care.They think the PLA is their friend and is coming to ‘liberate’ them.While the LibDem in all but name followers still think that CCP is a friendly trading partner.

Ironically I’m hoping that the real virus bioweapon and war with China is the correct call in that regard.

If it’s the fake virus and ‘Vaccine’ scenario the Auschwitz alarm bells are ringing off the wall.The Bolsheviks/Momentum/Common Purpose will be the Kapos in that regard.The LibDem in all but name voters will be shouting conspiracy theorists at those struggling to get away as they are rounded up and directed to get their injections.

Just maybe ( hopefully ) we’re seeing a Chamberlain type stunt being played against China in that regard.You know show em that we’re still friends and we trust em and the UN/WHO.

Don’t see any other possible scenarios than those.Scary zb in the case of the former.

Carryfast:

the maoster:
^^^^ don’t be daft, staying in all day drinking and watching tv? The citizens of Liverpool haven’t noticed any difference from any other day! :smiley:

Alcoholic self isolation strategy.If the quarantine doesn’t stop the bugs then the alcohol will.Gets expensive though even at £25 for a bottle of Glennfidich. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Are not thefts of Surgial Spirit spiking at this time? :unamused:

Firms might want to put a padlock on the Photocopier toner as well, of course… :stuck_out_tongue:

Carryfast:
Things are moving a bit quicker than that.The US seems to be moving more towards deliberate release of a bioweapon, kamikaze carriers taking adavantage of WHO/CCP complicity, having tricked the west into bringing a bioweapon in.In line with Chi Haotian’s 2005 plan.Chinese casualties were all collateral damage as part of the delivery system and plausible deniability to avoid retaliation.

Get ready for WW3 if that proves correct. :wink:

express.co.uk/news/world/126 … dian-ocean

:open_mouth:

aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/ch … an/1803722

All wars are about taking something away from someone else - for your own benefit. Money, Freedom, Food, Health.

With the Banking system they invented, the power to inflict social engineering upon all of us, and of course now take away our health and well-being… China have the power to take three of those away from Western society - but the West still holds China to ransom over the issue of FOOD.

I don’t think that China are going to cause WWIII - but rather their demise might precipitate it from the power vacuum instead

Even the Bible has WWIII happening after 25% of mankind gets destroyed…
roughly 25% of the world’s population are:

China
The West combined.
Islamics combined.

But NOT “Any Race”.

Winseer:
All wars are about taking something away from someone else - for your own benefit. Money, Freedom, Food, Health.

With the Banking system they invented, the power to inflict social engineering upon all of us, and of course now take away our health and well-being… China have the power to take three of those away from Western society - but the West still holds China to ransom over the issue of FOOD.

I don’t think that China are going to cause WWIII - but rather their demise might precipitate it from the power vacuum instead

Even the Bible has WWIII happening after 25% of mankind gets destroyed…
roughly 25% of the world’s population are:

China
The West combined.
Islamics combined.

But NOT “Any Race”.

It’s possible to foresee numerous scenarios including the Covid bioweapon going really bad for the west.
To the point where North America loses hundreds of millions,including military personnel, just like Haotian said.
South East Asia, including Australia and India, then being overrun by China and NK.With Russia and Iran and possibly Turkey overrunning Europe and UK.
At which point China can then invade the US west coast just as Haotian stated at which point with North America and Australia/NZ under its control its food problems are obviously solved ( just as Haotian planned ).
It’s clear that all axis sides win here in terms of taking food and water resources from North America/Europe/Australia/NZ that they don’t have of their own.

The Revelations story of Evil winning the battle but ultimately losing the War against good seeming close enough.When heaven looks like a far better option than staying around for Israel’s population and what remains of the west at that point.Which just leaves the miracle that Israel’s and the UK’s and US’ nuclear deterrent, including the safety of its crews, will need to be maintained through all that.Including the UK ballistic missile fleet fleeing to the US.
Probably no more than the miracle of Einstein and Bohr managing to flee ■■■■ Europe.It’s all looking a bit like destiny.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

nhpolitician.com/2005-china- … -invasion/

express.co.uk/news/world/126 … virus-news

Russian amphibious warfare exercises in the channel move along nothing to see or worry about here.Bearing in mind our air defence capability has been decimated.

Carryfast:

Winseer:
All wars are about taking something away from someone else - for your own benefit. Money, Freedom, Food, Health.

With the Banking system they invented, the power to inflict social engineering upon all of us, and of course now take away our health and well-being… China have the power to take three of those away from Western society - but the West still holds China to ransom over the issue of FOOD.

I don’t think that China are going to cause WWIII - but rather their demise might precipitate it from the power vacuum instead

Even the Bible has WWIII happening after 25% of mankind gets destroyed…
roughly 25% of the world’s population are:

China
The West combined.
Islamics combined.

But NOT “Any Race”.

It’s possible to foresee numerous scenarios including the Covid bioweapon going really bad for the west. The Chinese scientists - aint’ that good. Any manufactured Virus would end up killing a bunch of the wrong people, starting at home with their own… oh wait a mo!
To the point where North America loses hundreds of millions,including military personnel, just like Haotian said.
South East Asia, including Australia and India, then being overrun by China and NK.With Russia and Iran and possibly Turkey overrunning Europe and UK. I don’t think Putin’s end-game involves having any “Allies” at ALL. I suspect to him - Turkey is just someone to be thrown under the bus, when the moment comes for maximum effect of acting thus. Putin is a Machiavellian after all.
At which point China can then invade the US west coast just as Haotian stated at which point with North America and Australia/NZ under its control its food problems are obviously solved ( just as Haotian planned ).
It’s clear that all axis sides win here in terms of taking food and water resources from North America/Europe/Australia/NZ that they don’t have of their own.

The Revelations story of Evil winning the battle but ultimately losing the War against good seeming close enough.When heaven looks like a far better option than staying around for Israel’s population and what remains of the west at that point.Which just leaves the miracle that Israel’s and the UK’s and US’ nuclear deterrent, including the safety of its crews, will need to be maintained through all that.Including the UK ballistic missile fleet fleeing to the US.
Probably no more than the miracle of Einstein and Bohr managing to flee ■■■■ Europe.It’s all looking a bit like destiny.
Who’s to say they were not fleeing the public rather than the establishment though?
No number of goose-stepping morons could force the Reichsvolk to act in the ways they actually acted towards people that had been their neighbors a short while earlier… Fast foward to the present, and imagine how much resentment there would be for Corner Shop owners (mostly Asian) should food shortages start to bite, and some bright spark says you can “do a shopkeeper over” to feed your family - for the week at least…?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

nhpolitician.com/2005-china- … -invasion/

express.co.uk/news/world/126 … virus-news

Russian amphibious warfare exercises in the channel move along nothing to see or worry about here.Bearing in mind our air defence capability has been decimated.

Russia/China/America/India - are not the enemies of humanity here. They might well be the enemies of the enemies of Humanity though!!