Welcome to modern day Britain.
Where it seems money is the ultimate answer to absolutely everything. Very sad indeed…
TomCrin:
50k now.
apple.news/AGCHm-iZLS5qnteVCFu5otw
At this rate they will have enough for the horse and carriage in full headress pulling the coffins and a fly past by the red arrows.
halewood:
Odd days:
Over 30 grand for 3 funerals, I suggest that they look at somewhere cheaper.Why’s that lad? Your not throwing in are you? Maybe they were decent people and popular. Try it for a bit.
What’s with the attitude fella? The poster was simply saying that funerals can be had cheaper, and now it’s over £50k, Odd days certainly has a point.
Maybe you should try a ’ decent and popular ’ posting style 
robroy:
Santa:
I guess that the lorry driver would have a claim, but is unlikely to pursue it.If it was the fault of the car driver, however tragic the outcome was, why would (or should) the truck driver not put a claim in against the car driver’s insurance??
Nobody knows the trauma or stress that driver is, or will be, going through post event.
If it was me, no matter how hard, laid back or macho I may or may not make myself out to be, I’d be totally [zb] ed up in the head ! I would deffo want a bit of time off to reflect.
My crap firm certainly would not pay me for it, so I’d want recompense from somewhere…that is what insurance is for and all about.
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why wouldnt the truck driver not claim for at least whiplash,stress,trauma,loss of earnings ect if it gets proved its the other dudes fault.
if you want to take time off to relieve the trauma and stress then you would need the patience of an oyster for a good 3 years from now before you would get a payout.
also bearing in mind that if your going for gold,then you would need to show that youve not worked since the crash with the ongoing fact you would be skint and more likely to accept any decent offer.
those cash for crash mobs will get their hooks into him so he gets a payout as irrespective of how much he gets,they will be getting twice as much if not more for expenses.
If the HGV driver knows he is not at fault and truly knows he’s not at fault and is uninjured, the best thing he can do is get back on the horse strait away, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes to start again. That’s would be my philosophy anyway.
Midnight Rambler:
If the HGV driver knows he is not at fault and truly knows he’s not at fault and is uninjured, the best thing he can do is get back on the horse strait away, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes to start again. That’s would be my philosophy anyway.
Mine too, but that’s easy to say when it ain’t you. 
None of us know how we would react if it was us, certainly not me.
I was first on the scene last summer where a young teenage girl and her Granda were both killed (I actually used to know him) he was killed instantly, and the young girl at the scene, that shook me up enough, and I’m usually a level headed guy who can take things in my stride, and not much usually phases me. 
robroy:
Midnight Rambler:
If the HGV driver knows he is not at fault and truly knows he’s not at fault and is uninjured, the best thing he can do is get back on the horse strait away, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes to start again. That’s would be my philosophy anyway.Mine too, but that’s easy to say when it ain’t you.
None of us know how we would react if it was us, certainly not me.
Thats true
But if you know it’s not your fault then you are just another victim as the passengers were
Midnight Rambler:
robroy:
Midnight Rambler:
If the HGV driver knows he is not at fault and truly knows he’s not at fault and is uninjured, the best thing he can do is get back on the horse strait away, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes to start again. That’s would be my philosophy anyway.Mine too, but that’s easy to say when it ain’t you.
None of us know how we would react if it was us, certainly not me.
Thats true
But if you know it’s not your fault then you are just another victim as the passengers were
I realise that, but you were still involved in a multi death crash fault or not.
Ok it maybe makes things easier that it ain’t your fault, but even so.
Midnight Rambler:
If the HGV driver knows he is not at fault and truly knows he’s not at fault and is uninjured, the best thing he can do is get back on the horse strait away, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes to start again. That’s would be my philosophy anyway.
Yep exactly. I passed my test in September or October at 17, and on the 23rd of December as I was driving at a bit less than 30 going past Streatham railway station a bloke ran into the side of the morris minor van that I’d borrowed off my dad. I could see his brains as he was laying there and I put my leather jacket over him. He died six days later. I was exonerated from blame and I was booked by some ■■■■■■■ copper because the number plate light had blown. I drove home afterwards and kept driving afterwards. Only way to go I think.
toonsy:
WheelsofCardiff:
This sad .Why do people assume the speed.During my coach days i had a passenger sitting at the front phoning the office that i was doing 100 mph.She even sent a picture .The whole office were in stitches when they realised 62mph.I did see her a few weeks later and told her to move to the back incase i start speeding againYea I’ve had that too. Trying to explain it was 100km/h that she was seeing was a waste of energy.
She should have travelled on the old Midland Red Birmingham-London coaches, where the passengers were promised the 100 mph motorway experience.
Carryfast:
robroy:
We’ve all been mad young lads in cars, but when I think of the possible outcome, I’m eternally relieved my lad is ok now.I think there’s a big difference between mad young lads in something like an old Zodiac,Austin Westminster/Wolesey 6110,Jag S type,Triumph 2.5/Rover P6,all those examples also later having proved themselves as quick tanks on the banger destruction derby circuits and not really that fast by modern day standards.On that note my old dad was far happier with me around that type of scene than he would have been if I’d got into the biker scene like in his day cafe racing between Ariel Square 4,Vincent HRD,and Scott two stroke motorbikes.Which in my day would have been suicide machines like Yamaha RD’s Kawasaki/Suzuki 750’s let alone the 900’s.
Which translates now in car terms as stupidly lightly built small cars with as many passengers as they can get in them.With all too predictable results with much of that protective advantage,provided by a good heavy car,having been eroded by a silly small is good ethic.An old E 200 Merc being the perfect option for young people.IE not quick enough to get into a lot of trouble fast but the protection of a tank.
All modern cars, even small ones, seem huge alongside old cars. The current Fiesta is bigger than the original ■■■■■■, and the Pug 205 looks like a rollerskate alongside its modern counterpart.
Carryfast wrote: Which translates now in car terms as stupidly lightly built small cars with as many passengers as they can get in them.With all too predictable results with much of that protective advantage, provided by a good heavy car, having been eroded by a silly small is good ethic. An old E 200 Merc being the perfect option for young people.IE not quick enough to get into a lot of trouble fast but the protection of a tank.
Which demonstrates how little you know about physics. Back in the first half of the last century, it was not uncommon to see a slightly damaged car where the people inside were either dead or seriously injured. Modern cars are built to absorb the energy of a collision, transferring as little as possible to the occupants. I have frequently seen totally wrecked cars on the side of the road and the drivers standing around exchanging particulars.
Sadly for those in this collision, the impact was to the side, where protection is the least and in this, yes, smaller cars come of worse. Whatever you drive, being T-boned at speed by a truck is never going to end well.
Santa:
Carryfast wrote: Which translates now in car terms as stupidly lightly built small cars with as many passengers as they can get in them.With all too predictable results with much of that protective advantage, provided by a good heavy car, having been eroded by a silly small is good ethic. An old E 200 Merc being the perfect option for young people.IE not quick enough to get into a lot of trouble fast but the protection of a tank.
Which demonstrates how little you know about physics. Back in the first half of the last century, it was not uncommon to see a slightly damaged car where the people inside were either dead or seriously injured. Modern cars are built to absorb the energy of a collision, transferring as little as possible to the occupants. I have frequently seen totally wrecked cars on the side of the road and the drivers standing around exchanging particulars.
Sadly for those in this collision, the impact was to the side, where protection is the least and in this, yes, smaller cars come of worse. Whatever you drive, being T-boned at speed by a truck is never going to end well.
I was obviously referring to relative resistance to all round intrusion you were obviously referring to relative frontal impact energy absorption.Let’s just say that there’s often plenty of scope to trade the latter for the former and bigger is usually better in that regard.Feel free to think that friends or family are relatively safer in a Yaris than an E class in the real world.
Santa:
Carryfast wrote: Which translates now in car terms as stupidly lightly built small cars with as many passengers as they can get in them.With all too predictable results with much of that protective advantage, provided by a good heavy car, having been eroded by a silly small is good ethic. An old E 200 Merc being the perfect option for young people.IE not quick enough to get into a lot of trouble fast but the protection of a tank.
Which demonstrates how little you know about physics. Back in the first half of the last century, it was not uncommon to see a slightly damaged car where the people inside were either dead or seriously injured. Modern cars are built to absorb the energy of a collision, transferring as little as possible to the occupants. I have frequently seen totally wrecked cars on the side of the road and the drivers standing around exchanging particulars.
Sadly for those in this collision, the impact was to the side, where protection is the least and in this, yes, smaller cars come of worse. Whatever you drive, being T-boned at speed by a truck is never going to end well.
Yep.
2015 Toyota Yaris? 5* NCAP rating for adult occupants. But the safest car design will never make its occupants invulnerable in all cases.
Santa:
Carryfast wrote: Which translates now in car terms as stupidly lightly built small cars with as many passengers as they can get in them.With all too predictable results with much of that protective advantage, provided by a good heavy car, having been eroded by a silly small is good ethic. An old E 200 Merc being the perfect option for young people.IE not quick enough to get into a lot of trouble fast but the protection of a tank.
Which demonstrates how little you know about physics. Back in the first half of the last century, it was not uncommon to see a slightly damaged car where the people inside were either dead or seriously injured. Modern cars are built to absorb the energy of a collision, transferring as little as possible to the occupants. I have frequently seen totally wrecked cars on the side of the road and the drivers standing around exchanging particulars.
Sadly for those in this collision, the impact was to the side, where protection is the least and in this, yes, smaller cars come of worse. Whatever you drive, being T-boned at speed by a truck is never going to end well.
A young lad drove his Clio into the back of a Stobbies wagon this morning on Watling Street near Wall
It was in a layby.
The crash bar was more than half way through the car. Poor lad had no chance.
Second death on this stretch recently, needs lighting up really.
Franglais:
Yep.
2015 Toyota Yaris? 5* NCAP rating for adult occupants. But the safest car design will never make its occupants invulnerable in all cases.
NCAP isn’t the same thing as real world and I’d feel ‘relatively’ more invulnerable in a zero NCAP rated Austin Westminster let alone a 10-15 year old Merc E class.On that note you do know that NCAP 5 star in the small car league isn’t the same thing as any rating let alone an equivalent one in the large car league.IE in serious side impact terms we are talking about relatively more chance for those on the opposite side to the impact while those on the side of the impact are probably toast.So possibly two casualties in the case of the Merc instead of 3 or 4 in the case of Yaris or Clio etc.Similar applies in the case of front or rear impact the more metal between passengers and impact matters.
peterm:
Midnight Rambler:
If the HGV driver knows he is not at fault and truly knows he’s not at fault and is uninjured, the best thing he can do is get back on the horse strait away, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes to start again. That’s would be my philosophy anyway.Yep exactly. I passed my test in September or October at 17, and on the 23rd of December as I was driving at a bit less than 30 going past Streatham railway station a bloke ran into the side of the morris minor van that I’d borrowed off my dad. I could see his brains as he was laying there and I put my leather jacket over him. He died six days later. I was exonerated from blame and I was booked by some [zb] copper because the number plate light had blown. I drove home afterwards and kept driving afterwards. Only way to go I think.
A good friend and work colleague sadly knocked down a little girl when he was in his early twenties - the girl was about 7 or 8 and stepped out, just didn’t look - low speed collision on a residential street - girl survived ok, just bumps and bruises but taken to hospital - mate in tears, kindly plod made him get back in his Vauxhall Viva and accompianed him as he drove around the block a couple of times. Decent copper, can’t see that sort of thing happening today somehow.
Socketset:
peterm:
Midnight Rambler:
If the HGV driver knows he is not at fault and truly knows he’s not at fault and is uninjured, the best thing he can do is get back on the horse strait away, the longer you leave it the harder it becomes to start again. That’s would be my philosophy anyway.Yep exactly. I passed my test in September or October at 17, and on the 23rd of December as I was driving at a bit less than 30 going past Streatham railway station a bloke ran into the side of the morris minor van that I’d borrowed off my dad. I could see his brains as he was laying there and I put my leather jacket over him. He died six days later. I was exonerated from blame and I was booked by some [zb] copper because the number plate light had blown. I drove home afterwards and kept driving afterwards. Only way to go I think.
A good friend and work colleague sadly knocked down a little girl when he was in his early twenties - the girl was about 7 or 8 and stepped out, just didn’t look - low speed collision on a residential street - girl survived ok, just bumps and bruises but taken to hospital - mate in tears, kindly plod made him get back in his Vauxhall Viva and accompianed him as he drove around the block a couple of times. Decent copper, can’t see that sort of thing happening today somehow.
Not as unusual as appears at first sight - doing so enabled the copper to administer an informal “driving test” to judge how competent a driver the bloke really was.
A good friend and work colleague sadly knocked down a little girl when he was in his early twenties - the girl was about 7 or 8 and stepped out, just didn’t look - low speed collision on a residential street - girl survived ok, just bumps and bruises but taken to hospital - mate in tears, kindly plod made him get back in his Vauxhall Viva and accompianed him as he drove around the block a couple of times. Decent copper, can’t see that sort of thing happening today somehow.
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Not as unusual as appears at first sight - doing so enabled the copper to administer an informal “driving test” to judge how competent a driver the bloke really was.
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in other words just another example of proving that your average woodentop is a two faced slimey git.