Conor:
Wow, so many so ignorant of what they do on a daily basis. You’ve been downtrodden and derided so long you don’t even recognise what you do on a daily basis.
I used recognised definitions of unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled to determine which category of job it was, not just what I thought it was in my own mind.
Trunking as the Irish idiot states is within semi-skilled. A lot of other types of haulage come into skilled.
Key decisions, something which places you in the skilled category, cover things such as deciding what to do in the event of a road closing incident for example. The decision you make has a direct impact on the profitability of your company for that job. The majority of truck driving jobs are autonomous because once you’re given the keys and the job for the day you’re expected to get on with it and deal with whatever arises as you go about your daily work.
As for the Irish idiot, still an idiot…
to all the conor type anoraks that are no doubt reading the words of the oracle with eager anticiparion…he cant be talking about me as despite several reminders from others…im not irish…once again,none so blind etc.plobplobplob…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dear uncle dieseldog999 will u please stop annoying auntie Conor u have been repeatedly told to be seen and not heard she only listens to her own voice REMEMBER
robroy:
dieseldog mate, you seem to have a problem with Tesco, it’s nearly every post that you have a pop. I agree with some of what you say but whether you agree with their way or not, they do try to portray and maintain a professional image, something which can only be good for the industry.
On the other hand you yourself make no secret (to the point of boasting) on here that you have little respect for rules and laws of the road. Now I don’t give a flying [zb] if you drive at 60mph 12 hours a day, 7 days a week with no rest, it’s none of my business , but who do you think is more responsible for the ■■■■ poor image and p/r that us drivers have today… drivers like Tescos or drivers like you?
Don’t run away with the idea that I am one of your "tossco type plobbers’’ you keep banging on about, on the contrary I WAS just like you once over, but the 80s have long gone and if anybody is dumb enough to still behave as if it was the 80s are, and quite rightly so, being jailed.
These are probably the reasons that we are not looked upon as either skilled or professional eh?
i dont have a problem with tosco,im just refering to the tosco type jobs. id say it was the goverment that are responsible for the ■■■■ poor image portrayed by trucks in general as anywhere else in europe treats truckies infinately better then the uk.you cant blame the flipflops as theres more in europe than over here.if you were happy cowboying along in the 80s as i was,then the fact im still happy working the same way dosent make me better or worse than yourself if it was ok for you when it suited you…i agencied for tosco a few years ago but due to the rules and working operations then i found the job just totally demeaning as you have no option to think for yourself,or if you do expect a murder enquiry debreif when you return to base.tosco may try to portray your professional image that you mentioned,but id expect joe public to be happier at the back of someone sitting at a reasonable speed that a tosco at 39mph.my perfect example of tosco was when the main transport manager called in the tyre fitters when a driver defected a unit with a faulty 5th wheel,says it all to me.i prefer running with the tangs and having a degree of job satisfaction i cant possibly get being a plobber.each to their own,hence its a discussion forum…
dieseldog999:
my son in law is in the army,where he is instructed as to how to take a shower,shave,wash himself and rule after rule after rule,do not think for yourself or use any initiative and always do what your told.,so wheres the difference?? braindead lemmings as drivers or braindead cannon fodder is there no similarities to both roles??
He must be in the RLC or infantry , it wasnt like that for me in the engineers, there was pleanty of thinking outside the box, problem solving ect…
infantry/cannon fodder…taught how to wipe his bum with 3 squares of bogroll,and have a shower in 30 seconds…had to be ordered to remove wet socks after a cross country hike,and shave daily even when he could go a month and still be as smooth as a babys bum…
Conor:
Wow, so many so ignorant of what they do on a daily basis. You’ve been downtrodden and derided so long you don’t even recognise what you do on a daily basis.
I used recognised definitions of unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled to determine which category of job it was, not just what I thought it was in my own mind.
Trunking as the Irish idiot states is within semi-skilled. A lot of other types of haulage come into skilled.
Key decisions, something which places you in the skilled category, cover things such as deciding what to do in the event of a road closing incident for example. The decision you make has a direct impact on the profitability of your company for that job. The majority of truck driving jobs are autonomous because once you’re given the keys and the job for the day you’re expected to get on with it and deal with whatever arises as you go about your daily work.
As for the Irish idiot, still an idiot…
to all the conor type anoraks that are no doubt reading the words of the oracle with eager anticiparion…he cant be talking about me as despite several reminders from others…im not irish…once again,none so blind etc.plobplobplob…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dear uncle dieseldog999 will u please stop annoying auntie Conor u have been repeatedly told to be seen and not heard she only listens to her own voice REMEMBER
well if you dont agree with her then you are obviously an idiot,which meand the idiots rule in this thing as there seems to be a fair ammount that dont agree with auntie,especially when the painters are in.must be great to have to do a 60 mile round trip just to get a nightshift on agency work to enable you to live next door to a junkie(oops,drug dealer) but being an idiot then im obviously wrong in that opinion as well,helllooooooo fellow idiots…
robroy:
dieseldog mate, you seem to have a problem with Tesco, it’s nearly every post that you have a pop. I agree with some of what you say but whether you agree with their way or not, they do try to portray and maintain a professional image, something which can only be good for the industry.
On the other hand you yourself make no secret (to the point of boasting) on here that you have little respect for rules and laws of the road. Now I don’t give a flying [zb] if you drive at 60mph 12 hours a day, 7 days a week with no rest, it’s none of my business , but who do you think is more responsible for the ■■■■ poor image and p/r that us drivers have today… drivers like Tescos or drivers like you?
Don’t run away with the idea that I am one of your "tossco type plobbers’’ you keep banging on about, on the contrary I WAS just like you once over, but the 80s have long gone and if anybody is dumb enough to still behave as if it was the 80s are, and quite rightly so, being jailed.
These are probably the reasons that we are not looked upon as either skilled or professional eh?
i dont have a problem with tosco,im just refering to the tosco type jobs. id say it was the goverment that are responsible for the ■■■■ poor image portrayed by trucks in general as anywhere else in europe treats truckies infinately better then the uk.you cant blame the flipflops as theres more in europe than over here.if you were happy cowboying along in the 80s as i was,then the fact im still happy working the same way dosent make me better or worse than yourself if it was ok for you when it suited you…i agencied for tosco a few years ago but due to the rules and working operations then i found the job just totally demeaning as you have no option to think for yourself,or if you do expect a murder enquiry debreif when you return to base.tosco may try to portray your professional image that you mentioned,but id expect joe public to be happier at the back of someone sitting at a reasonable speed that a tosco at 39mph.my perfect example of tosco was when the main transport manager called in the tyre fitters when a driver defected a unit with a faulty 5th wheel,says it all to me.i prefer running with the tangs and having a degree of job satisfaction i cant possibly get being a plobber.each to their own,hence its a discussion forum…
Can’t see how the government are to blame for our public image. It’s nothing to do with the way we are treated, it’s all to do with how a minority of drivers behave on the road towards other road users, tailgating, speeding in inappropriate areas, harassment , fatigue related serious accidents, and general crap driving.
Now I ain’t perfect, but I and other drivers like me are tarred with the same brush, even though we try and stick to hours and the law in general…now whether we agree with these laws and regs is another argument, and on the whole irrelevant.
As for working now as we did in the 80s, those days are gone, and trust me ,it’s only a matter of time before you are caught, and remember what I said WHEN you are.
As I said I personally I really couldn’t give a ■■■■ what you do, but you are doing nothing to improve the image of the job, and coming on here boasting about it looks really good if viewed by a non driver, especially an anti truck non driver he tells all his mates in the pub and it just fuels all the crap that we get chucked at us. But hey, as you say mate, it’s a discussion forum, and each to his own.
Dan ze Man:
2 Year exp [zb]. If there was driver shortage 2 years exp would be req in job adds.
I am a driver. west london. Any one need my services?
What can you do? How long have you been doing it? How long CAN you do it?
The main qualification for getting full time work right now is being luckier than the next guy, or prepared to work for less than the next guy.
The criteria for being at the top of any agency’s pecking order - is what you are prepared to do above and beyond the basic job…
Eg. Work at short notice, work nights, work weekends, drive crappy kit, and do multidrop around London. If you cross off that lot, you won’t get any work at all.
I’m thinking that if you live in “West London” then there’s so much work at the huge number of depots around there at present, that you should easily get work on the agencies - once you’ve done your couple of years on near minimum wage at some fairground haulier or whatever to get the experience required.
When you don’t have 2 years experience - it might as well require a doctorate. We were all there once upon a time. I spent my first two years doing a lot of handball on rigids as a full timer, as there was a recession on, and not a lot of outside work around at the time.
Be a bit more specific than merely “west london” and you might find there are some people on here that might have some immediate start job suggestions for you at your local yard - wherever that is…
F-reds:
As ever, there is no shortage of drivers. Just a shortage of quality drivers.
Whats your definition of a ‘quality driver’:?:
Someone who can do the job without smashing up the kit.
Someone who is polite and helpful to the customers even if they are having a ■■■■ day.
Someone who will leave the truck/site/manitou/fridge, tidy, topped up with fluids, and ready to go, rather than ■■■■ off and say “I’m alright jack”.
Someone who recognises the job, and their own limitations, and isn’t afraid to ask a question. Equally is ready to answer a question, even if they think it’s daft.
Lastly, Prima Donna’ s, can take their attitude and do one!
Pimpdaddy I could add others but that will do for a start
but if it is so skilled why do we have thread after thread of ’ ■■■■■■ cut me up ', driver causes accident, knobhead stuck under low bridge despite miles of warnings saying low bridge.
its about as skilled as a flt driver sorry chaps, it will never be skilled no matter how much you bang on about it (and yes some is obviously far more skilled than trunking etc).
you pass a test sit down in front of a dcpc instructor and get given keys to a vehicle hardly the ‘skilled’ training that maybe the job should entail.
yes drivers do a good job on the whole in sometime some very difficult circumstances but its not skilled.
Dan ze Man:
2 Year exp [zb]. If there was driver shortage 2 years exp would be req in job adds.
I am a driver. west london. Any one need my services?
What can you do? How long have you been doing it? How long CAN you do it?
The main qualification for getting full time work right now is being luckier than the next guy, or prepared to work for less than the next guy.
The criteria for being at the top of any agency’s pecking order - is what you are prepared to do above and beyond the basic job…
Eg. Work at short notice, work nights, work weekends, drive crappy kit, and do multidrop around London. If you cross off that lot, you won’t get any work at all.
I’m thinking that if you live in “West London” then there’s so much work at the huge number of depots around there at present, that you should easily get work on the agencies - once you’ve done your couple of years on near minimum wage at some fairground haulier or whatever to get the experience required.
When you don’t have 2 years experience - it might as well require a doctorate. We were all there once upon a time. I spent my first two years doing a lot of handball on rigids as a full timer, as there was a recession on, and not a lot of outside work around at the time.
Be a bit more specific than merely “west london” and you might find there are some people on here that might have some immediate start job suggestions for you at your local yard - wherever that is…
Thx. Ill keep this in mind.
Epsom.
O im willing to do all it can throw at me but, not for less than 25k. It is impossible to make numbers add up for less. It would be a death sentence.
My first port of call I think would be asking the local agencies who puts into Travis Perkis for day work or the Fedex depots around there for the night work.
The only day work on Fedex around my way is the steel work, and the travis perkins work is never nights, since it’s delivering stuff to private houses.
