This months T&D

I’ve just read through a copy of T&D from cover to cover, I glanced over the van tests, not applicable to me, but I’m quite sure that there are readers who do drive vans, maybe even future truckers :bulb: They also come in handy when that piece of flat pack is just too big to go in the boot of the 300C :laughing:

It’s the same with the drawings by the kids, these are sent in by reader’s (yes kids read it too, I always used to buy TRUCK before I bought the Beano or Whizzer and Chips) or their children, those kids will be pleased as punch to have their picture in the magazine, as will their parents, so much so that they will continue to buy the magazine, again these are the truckers of the future, so hardly a crime to cater to them is it :question: :bulb:

The music reviews should go though, everybody who reads the magazine likes trucks, but musical tastes are all over the place, however that’s just my opinion, I’m sure there are people who do read them, as it is they take up less than half a page, so no harm done even if you don’t read it.

The rest of the magazine was entertaining, the on the job thing (in this issue the bloke with the FH wagon and drag collecting print waste) was a good read, although he could’ve washed the thing before the snapper took his pictures :blush:

For the sake of objectivity I also re read an old issue, it’s the same magazine now under Will Shiers’ leadership as it was when Dave Young was at the helm, in fact the Will Shiers issue had a bit more in it, nothing to do with my articles either :laughing:

I put my point over earlier. I don’t buy it for the simple reason that I am a news hound always hunting out new & interesting stories, it is this reason I prefer the internet, or the electronic media in real time.

The Radio Times came out in 1923, it was the most important magazine in many houses between the two World wars. Now I click on the interweb and I can see a programme list for about 20 channels.

Twenty four hour news channels and specialist websites keep me informed.

We have evolved and the printed media must evolve with us.

Will Shiers:
Great idea, maybe we could use the new Volvo FMX. Email me your company details if you they think they’d be up for supplying the Foden.

Why not contact my boss as he has the last 4000 XL Foden built at Sandbach and yes it is the last one as I used to drive it and he has all the documents to prove it !!!
Plus he has other 4000 models and first and second generation Alphas a new 85 CF and my 105

I quite enjoyed the 3D issue,wouldnt want every issue to be like that though but no it was good.
I still buy T&D and Trucking as i would probably get classed as a truck nerd and enjoy reading them but one thing shocked me about this issue and that was that their was no mention or no photos of “north or mid shropshire transport”.
God they seem to be in nearly every issue of T&D,bit like stobbies lol.

As for when Dave Young was editing,sorry,used to get ■■■■■■ off with him putting a leftie political slant on thing and blaming Maggie for everything
I mean the last thing i read of his,was banning sleeper cabs,FFS!!!

bobthedog:
Last thing, off topic, Carryfast, you have dropped some bollox about B trains into at least 2 non related threads. I know about both types, you don’t. You are too boring to continue arguing so just drop it, there’s a good boy.

The LHV issue is going to become increasingly relevant to the future efficiency of the industry so what’s ‘off topic’ about a discussion concerning the issue in the magazine :question: .An objective comparison concerning all the different characteristics,and the strengths and weaknesses of all the different designs,would be both interesting and would maybe help to dispel some of the myths concerning them.But as I seem to be so ignorant of the so called ‘benefits’ of B trains versus drawbar outfits and A trains I look forward to seeing my ‘erroneous’ ideas, concerning the weaknesses of B trains,corrected by an objective comparison not hearsay,especially concerning those issues related to the B train’s so called better road manners,it’s loading (weight distribution issues) and practicality, versus those of a large drawbar outfit and/or A train, using existing semi trailers coupled with dollies,in the context of a typical owner driver traction operation. :question: :unamused:

I havnt got my copy of t&d so can’t comment on it. But critising Tom because you think his works crap is a bit of a joke, you go try get the exact same picture with a cheap camera and you just won’t get it, some of his pics don’t agree with me but the majority are stunning. I only rock a nikon d90 plus 3 lenses and extras so spent about £2k on it.
Why does he need £22k of equipment?

Well here’s a pretty good answer

Why get a scanny r730 on container work when a p380 will do the exact same job.

Keep up the good work Tom

gogzy:
Well here’s a pretty good answer

Why get a scanny r730 on container work when a p380 will do the exact same job.

Keep up the good work Tom

I read that as you saying he has wasted £20k.

Your £2k (Scania P380) kit does the same as his £22k (Scania R730) kit. :confused: :confused: :confused:

marcustandy:

gogzy:
Well here’s a pretty good answer

Why get a scanny r730 on container work when a p380 will do the exact same job.

Keep up the good work Tom

I read that as you saying he has wasted £20k.

Your £2k (Scania P380) kit does the same as his £22k (Scania R730) kit. :confused: :confused: :confused:

What I’m saying Is he doesn’t have to explain why he spent that on his own gear for his job just like a scanny v8 owner doesn’t have to justify it if he wants it

gogzy:
What I’m saying Is he doesn’t have to explain why he spent that on his own gear for his job just like a scanny v8 owner doesn’t have to justify it if he wants it

No one asked him !!!

CRISPY:
Why not contact my boss TERRYSEAMANTRANSPORT.CO.UK

Oi :exclamation: You’ve already been in it, you attention seeker :wink: :wink: :wink: :laughing:

Just a suggestion, but with all the talk of Van Den Bosch in the other thread :smiley: Why not come over to The netherlands and do a expose of what goes on over here.

Carryfast:
The LHV issue is going to become increasingly relevant to the future efficiency of the industry so what’s ‘off topic’ about a discussion concerning the issue in the magazine :question: .An objective comparison concerning all the different characteristics,and the strengths and weaknesses of all the different designs,would be both interesting and would maybe help to dispel some of the myths concerning them.But as I seem to be so ignorant of the so called ‘benefits’ of B trains versus drawbar outfits and A trains I look forward to seeing my ‘erroneous’ ideas, concerning the weaknesses of B trains,corrected by an objective comparison not hearsay,especially concerning those issues related to the B train’s so called better road manners,it’s loading (weight distribution issues) and practicality, versus those of a large drawbar outfit and/or A train, using existing semi trailers coupled with dollies,in the context of a typical owner driver traction operation. :question: :unamused:

Give your mind a break, why don’t you. You clearly don’t know anything about B Trains or you wouldn’t keep tapping your non-sharp plastic spoon on the same toy drum. As for the relevence of the “LHV Issue”, is there anything about it in this months T&D? No, you are just trying to stick it to me, and it is only mildly irritating to find you sputtering away all over the place. Why not ask you medicos for a new book? May I suggest dinosaurs since that is pretty much what A Trains are nowadays?

Maybe that is something T&D should do. Maybe they should come out here in the late winter. They could do a trip with me up on the lakes then do a feature about turnpikers, A Trains and B Trains.

bobthedog:

Carryfast:
The LHV issue is going to become increasingly relevant to the future efficiency of the industry so what’s ‘off topic’ about a discussion concerning the issue in the magazine :question: .An objective comparison concerning all the different characteristics,and the strengths and weaknesses of all the different designs,would be both interesting and would maybe help to dispel some of the myths concerning them.But as I seem to be so ignorant of the so called ‘benefits’ of B trains versus drawbar outfits and A trains I look forward to seeing my ‘erroneous’ ideas, concerning the weaknesses of B trains,corrected by an objective comparison not hearsay,especially concerning those issues related to the B train’s so called better road manners,it’s loading (weight distribution issues) and practicality, versus those of a large drawbar outfit and/or A train, using existing semi trailers coupled with dollies,in the context of a typical owner driver traction operation. :question: :unamused:

Give your mind a break, why don’t you. You clearly don’t know anything about B Trains or you wouldn’t keep tapping your non-sharp plastic spoon on the same toy drum. As for the relevence of the “LHV Issue”, is there anything about it in this months T&D? No, you are just trying to stick it to me, and it is only mildly irritating to find you sputtering away all over the place. Why not ask you medicos for a new book? May I suggest dinosaurs since that is pretty much what A Trains are nowadays?

Maybe that is something T&D should do. Maybe they should come out here in the late winter. They could do a trip with me up on the lakes then do a feature about turnpikers, A Trains and B Trains.

I’m obviously not the only one who decided that the topic should’nt be taken literally,in the context of the content of only ‘this month’s issue’.But if they want to save the money they could probably find out everything that they need to know,in the context of euro operation of the different types,with a comparison of the Denby,Stan Robinson,and the Scandinavian drawbar type outfits.But unfortunately there’s probably no way,that even in either North America or Scandinavia,that the ultimate idea of an A Train pulled by a Rigid,running at it’s max potential train weight,would be allowed to prove that the idea is far from being a dinosaur.But in this context the drawbar outfit,made up of a rigid and just the one 45 foot trailer,should be enough to prove it’s superiority anyway.So hopefully T and D will arrange the challenge for a future issue.

Tell me about it, Rob. He is like a puppy with a rag toy.

Actually, he is more like a teenage boy, prepared to slip it in anywhere he can… :laughing: :laughing:

Rob K:

Carl:
theres alot of out of focus photos in it, :smiling_imp: im glad theres some decent shots of andrew biltons magnum in the pics forum :laughing:i thought my eyes had gone funny then i saw a bit of card stuck to the front of the mag with some red n blue plastic stuck in it i looked thru em and all didnt become clear. :laughing:
im sorry but 3d photography in a mag its not big and its not clever :unamused: the 3d glasses well lets just say they dont work :unamused: come on lads im not happy, normally i look at the photos then read it.ive had to read it first this month cuz i cant look at the bloody photos.all i can say is leave the 3d to sky tv.
ps will there be a reprint with proper photos,cuz i know the bloke that took em can take a photo or 2 cuz ive seen his webpage
thanks,kind regards, disgruntled and a little confused T&D buyer

T&D should be scrapped. Awful magazine.

Constructive criticism Rob style. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Rob K:

johnno:
Go Rob :laughing: :laughing:

Forums are discussing things, sharing thoughts and opinions - that is what I am doing. I don’t see any rule that says I most only post stuff that agrees with x, y or z, although that seems like the way it could be heading… :unamused:

I absolutely agree Rob. :unamused: :laughing:

Roger Breaker:

CRISPY:
Why not contact my boss TERRYSEAMANTRANSPORT.CO.UK

Oi :exclamation: You’ve already been in it, you attention seeker :wink: :wink: :wink: :laughing:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Well, I have to give credit where credit is due. I posted earlier that I was missing 3 editions or T&D, and due to a lack of customer service from Read business subscriptions department had cancelled my subscription.
Fair play to Will Sheirs he contacted me, apolagised for the non delivery, promised to look into the situation and this week Oct, Nov and Dec arrived.
I had a quick look through them, and looking foreward to reading them cover to cover.
Thankyou Will.