This Keeps Happening

Chas:
Fasting a dog regularly is one of the best things you can do for your pet. Please, at least give me the courtesy to look up some info on dog fasting (google.co.uk/#q=dog+fasting) before you spout forth.

My dog fasts every 8th day. She’s only fed on butchers green tripe with the odd bowl of cooked chicken as a treat.

There’s folk out there that can’t keep a dog properly because they’ve lost the perception of what a dog actually is & what it’s needs are. To get it so horribly wrong with a dog, it’s no wonder their kids are fubar too.

Absolutely nothing wrong with fasting a dog, I don’t do it myself but it certainly does no harm.

Green tripe… good food for dogs but stinks to high heaven. Do you include raw bones too?

Melchett:

Chas:
Do you include raw bones too?

Yes, she’s a Parsons Terrier with an extremely small mouth for the breed so most bones are safe.

Do this just once for your dog. Let it lick out the marrow it can reach & gnaw at the bone for a few days to get at more, take the bone (if you can) & use something to scoop out all the remaining marrow.

I let her eat it from the palm of my hand.

Do this & you have a friend for life.

Chas:

albion:
I would like to see a lot tougher sentencing for the owners of dogs in these type of cases, when it can be shown that abuse/neglect of the dog has led it to attack.

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I have serious problems with what peoples perceptions are of what exactly constitutes abuse/neglect of a dog.

I refuse to walk my dog on a lead, ever. Am I wrong for doing that?

Some days I don’t feed her, is this neglect?

What exactly is abuse/neglect of a dog? Who decides? Who has the right to tell me that I’m doing it all Pete Tongue?

Indeed, the definition of what is neglect or abuse is always going to be riddled with difficulties when it comes to definition.

Not that I wish to put words in your mouth, but I’m guessing that if you read the mirror article that I linked earlier, regarding the way that the four dogs that killed Jade in Wigan were kept, you would agree that was abuse. ( In case you didn’t they were never exercised, and one of them was crated pretty much 24 hours a day, in a crate that was not even tall enough for it to lift its head).

If you have arrived at a reasoned feeding pattern for your dog that means one day in 8 you don’t feed her, personally I don’t have an issue with that, though I personally wouldn’t choose that system myself.

Ultimately it’s down to the law to decide what constitues what is right or wrong. I doubt it would take any of us long to come up with examples where we think the law is wrong, however, somewhere there has to be a set of rules to cover what society as a whole finds acceptable and we have to adhere to them. AIUI, the law often has grey areas, (hence the lawyers bills :wink: ), but a difficulty in coming to a definition is not a reason not to try.

On a lighter note, does this constitute abuse? :slight_smile:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

The Malamute & another dog have been put down which is a bit strange given this “The cause of the Eliza-Mae’s death is not yet known and the force has not given any details of her injuries.”

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout … s-26433484

I would have thought it would be fairly easy to determine if a baby had been killed by a dog… obviously not!

Melchett:
The Malamute & another dog have been put down which is a bit strange given this “The cause of the Eliza-Mae’s death is not yet known and the force has not given any details of her injuries.”

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout … s-26433484

I would have thought it would be fairly easy to determine if a baby had been killed by a dog… obviously not!

Have you jumped to a conclusion of how these dogs dragged the baby from its cot & ravaged her like a ragdoll?

I’ve looked briefly at the available info & I can’t draw a conclusion?

Perhaps one or both of the dogs snuggled down in the cot & went to sleep with a new & important member of their pack, suffocating the baby in the process?

Maybe mummy suffered a spot of post natal depression?

It must be tearing you apart that you know what happened for sure, yet those who’s job it is to discover the truth don’t have a clue.

Hi Melchett - Rather brief and guarded press release, that. So the incident file has now been passed to the coroner, and both family pets have subsequently been put down.
Like you say, injuries sustained in this type of attack are not unfamiliar to pathologists, and this happened a fortnight ago to the day. It seems curious to me also that this matter is not yet concluded. Makes me wonder if a possible prosecution is skulking in the shadows…■■

Sorry, but youre misinterpreting Melchetts words there, Chas.

Chas:
Have you jumped to a conclusion of how these dogs dragged the baby from its cot & ravaged her like a ragdoll?

Nope, I’m wondering why the dogs have been destroyed when the cause of death isn’t confirmed!

Chas:
I’ve looked briefly at the available info & I can’t draw a conclusion?

Considering you can’t read a post in the right context I’m not really surprised.

Chas:
Perhaps one or both of the dogs snuggled down in the cot & went to sleep with a new & important member of their pack, suffocating the baby in the process?

Maybe they did but until cause of death is confirmed & by what …why are the dogs dead?

Chas:
It must be tearing you apart that you know what happened for sure, yet those who’s job it is to discover the truth don’t have a clue.

mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/el … um-3160477

The dog ate my baby’s head!"

Now the dog clearly didn’t do the above or it would have been obvious from the start, after over two weeks they still can’t confirm the cause of death or that the dog(s) were the killers so what’s your point?

Melchett:
Now the dog clearly didn’t do the above or it would have been obvious from the start, after over two weeks they still can’t confirm the cause of death or that the dog(s) were the killers so what’s your point?

Wow, where do I start?

Maybe the dogs were put down at the owners request? Where is the definition of who ordered the dogs destruction?

You are jumping to conclusions, you appear to be forming your opinion based upon what you read in your meedyah of choice.

If THEY don’t know, how can you possibly have a hope in hell of forming an opinion?

Have you considered that it might actually be a MURDER inquiry & the dogs are just the scapegoats?

Anythings possible because NOBODY knows for sure.

YOU think it is easy to determine to whether a baby has been killed by a dog because YOU have already formed your conclusion by what you’ve read in your meedyah of choice.

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Hi Melchett - Rather brief and guarded press release, that. So the incident file has now been passed to the coroner, and both family pets have subsequently been put down.
Like you say, injuries sustained in this type of attack are not unfamiliar to pathologists, and this happened a fortnight ago to the day. It seems curious to me also that this matter is not yet concluded. Makes me wonder if a possible prosecution is skulking in the shadows…■■

I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re right, it’s all a bit strange!

Chas:
Wow, where do I start?

Maybe the dogs were put down at the owners request? Where is the definition of who ordered the dogs destruction?

You are jumping to conclusions, you appear to be forming your opinion based upon what you read in your meedyah of choice.

If THEY don’t know, how can you possibly have a hope in hell of forming an opinion?

Have you considered that it might actually be a MURDER inquiry & the dogs are just the scapegoats?

Anythings possible because NOBODY knows for sure.

YOU think it is easy to determine to whether a baby has been killed by a dog because YOU have already formed your conclusion by what you’ve read in your meedyah of choice.

You don’t know what my opinion/conclusion is though do you? I’ve never stated it here!

I find it strange that after two weeks the cause of death is unknown yet two dogs have been put down, no opinion or conclusion… but if you want to read things that aren’t there, fill your boots

Melchett:
You don’t know what my opinion/conclusion is though do you? I’ve never stated it here!

I find it strange that after two weeks the cause of death is unknown yet two dogs have been put down, no opinion or conclusion… but if you want to read things that aren’t there, fill your boots

You’re absolutely right.

It is totally pointless trying to debate this subject with you.

I refuse to do battle with the unarmed.

Chas:
You’re absolutely right.

It is totally pointless trying to debate this subject with you.
I refuse to do battle with the unarmed.

Which subject?

The actual case or your totally irrational view of my (unposted) opinions on the case?

■■■■■■■ got it why not you?

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-li … e-26456029

I reckon the suspended sentence must be because they had no idea on where to put him, general prison population or in with the ■■■■■■ ■■?

OMG :open_mouth: - The guy should really be sent to a psychiatric hospital. One very sick teenager.

I`ll bet his ex girlfriend is more than a little perplexed too.

and the issue rages on unabated…bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-li … e-26510587

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and the issue rages on unabated…bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-li … e-26510587

Rages on indeed.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-li … e-26519332

Not even Quentin Tarantino could dream up a scenario as hideous & beyond belief as this !

Now that is one almost inconceivably dysfunctional household. Unimaginable trauma and misery has been caused by these totally selfish and irresponsible retards. Sounds like the twonk kicked off when the law turned up to relieve him of his beloved “pet”, and his partner (presumably) has had a dose of her own medicine, so to speak.
O how i wish i could be the presiding beak when this comes to court. I would like to think that a custodial sentence is inevitable, but given the woeful lack of prison cells/beds available, hell probably get a "ticking off" and a fine that hell never pay.

These events are happening with truly alarming frequency. Can you imagine the repercussions if these injuries were inflicted by one human on another? He should be held just as accountable as if he himself had done this. :imp:

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout … s-26522054

Still no cause of death released.