The white stuff

Brit Pete

I think it was made by Telma or Telmar worked like a dynamo/alternator generated a lot of VA and fed them through a huge resistor which would also create a lot of heat

Tony

No , sorry but that was a system which worked on the propshaft this

was afunny name and worked on the back axle of the trailer only,

Willy Gofar:
Snow is a bit like high winds…

If you’re bricking it before it gets here then you’re in the wrong job.

nice one

repton:
Whilst I’ve no doubt you’re right, I don’t understand why this should be the case. I would have thought that braking gently on all axles would be more likely to bring you to a controlled halt than braking on only one axle using the exhaust brake. Any idea why this isn’t the case?

Paul

Braking gently works ok if you have a heavy load on, I have known the exhaust brake to lock the wheels with no load, but the foot brake was far worse. If I have an empty trailer in the snow when I use the foot brake the wheels will lock long before they do with the exhaust brake.

Dear Lady :slight_smile: … We do have two drive axles but only one axle in in use unless we engage the inter axle lock, which is very rare. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

stick to major major routes that get treatment first, avoid changing lanes if there’s a ridge formed and snow is settling in the lane you’re aiming for.

brake gentle and early for bends and roundabouts.

pull off in the highest gear you can with the lowest revs, and change down gears in the lower rev-ranges too, to prevent toque-locking of the driving wheels (where engine speed and road speed mismatch heavily in low grip conditions).

stay alert and concentrate, don’t be too warm and comfy.

take some sun-glasses cos snow-glare can be blinding.

and as always - slowly slowly catchy monkey.

ps - I’m a newb so don’t listen to me :wink:

My advice - tuck in behind the gritter :wink:

Ensure your truck is fitted with adequate snow curtains… :wink:

Braking gently works ok if you have a heavy load on, I have known the exhaust brake to lock the wheels with no load, but the foot brake was far worse. If I have an empty trailer in the snow when I use the foot brake the wheels will lock long before they do with the exhaust brake.

So how does that work re:the jacknife problems talked about above? I’m genuinely intrigued here…surely by only braking from one/two axles you are increasing the likely hood of the (unbraked) trailer pushing the back of the unit 'round, a problem made worse by the also unbraked front axle?

As I said, I’m not being awkward for the sake of it Pat, I’d actually like to know the answer and learn something!!!

Dear Lady :slight_smile: … We do have two drive axles but only one axle in in use unless we engage the inter axle lock, which is very rare. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Ok…so does that mean that you only have one drive axle the majority of the time, there being some method of disengaging the prop shaft from the other when you do not wish to use it - leaving it effectively as an un-liftable-midlift or tag (hope that make sense…you see what I’m getting at)?
If so, that just intrigues me more under the logic of the jacknife thing above…

Also, is an interlock there different to an interlock here? Here it’s like a further weapon in the “diff-lock”-type arsenal…on double drive motors you have a diff-lock on each axle (so left and right wheels turn together) and then an interlock or “crosslock” between them, so both axles (and hence all four wheels) turn in unison.

Again, I’m genuinely intrigued with this one!

I can’t see snow being a problem. My truck has trouble getting away if it’s damp in snow or ice I can’t see it moving at all :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

knight:
I can’t see snow being a problem. My truck has trouble getting away if it’s damp in snow or ice I can’t see it moving at all :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

is it an erf? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :wink:
my erf ect wheelspins at the slightest smudge of rain. snow will be no problem, ive got enough food and drink in the cab to last a fortnight, i get paid by the hour, heres hoping for 6foot drifts :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

spend the first 12 hours or your shift trying to get out of the yard :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :open_mouth:

Unfortunately to get out of my yard you have to climb a bit of a hill (not much but you will be stuck there if it even rains) then when im past this you are right on a bend in the road you are going forward right for a dike so Ive got to somehow turn to point the unit the right way and there is a grade this side also going straight to the dike. oh happy days :smiley: :slight_smile: :confused: :frowning: :open_mouth:

so who’s ringing in sick?

ralliesport:
spend the first 12 hours or your shift trying to get out of the yard :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :open_mouth:

Unfortunately to get out of my yard you have to climb a bit of a hill :

When I got my brand shiny new Daf 3300 back in '79, the first job was to couple up to a low loader in the lower half of Econfreight’s Leicester yard. Fresh snowfall overnight. No problem, I thought, no more Atki, all foreign motors have diff locks, I thought. After searching the cab for a while finally asked the fitter ‘where’s the diff lock switch on this?’ ‘Hasn’t got one’ came the reply, ‘doesn’t need it, its got a limited slip differential’.

Spent all morning dragging that trolly up that slope!

Salut, David.

If it gets that bad,simply use your snowchains.
I find the swish ones very good,simply grab hold of the edge of both cab curtains,and give them a good swish! Then it’s on with the cab-heater and wait for the snow-plough. :wink:

A point for those of us who go abroad ,they have strict rules when

you are carrying hazerdous goods, in that when there is hevaysnow fall

or fog where you can not see over 50meters then you must use the

next parking area until the allclear is given. or the weather has taken

a turn for the better, IN NORWAY you are by law in winter to carry a

set of snowchains for all axles ;THIS means for ever wheel , if you

come into the docks or cross the border and are checked, and they

see you do not have these items you will be escorted to aplace where

you can buy them, and then you will be asked to pay afine for non

compliance with there traffic laws, all legal and above board…

IN Swiss by the GOTTHARD TUNNELin winter about 5-10kms

before is a very large parking place and if you do not have the

required amount of snowchains when posted, You will be parked up

until they have cleared the roads,which may take a while…

For Austria, you must carry a pair of chains and they also when

checking and you are not carrying them will fine you…

Willy Gofar:
Snow is a bit like high winds…

If you’re bricking it before it gets here then you’re in the wrong job.

a little concern if inexperienced is a healthy thing though.
balls-out confidence is a recipe for disaster, for someone somewhere.

nowt wrong with a bit of advice :slight_smile:

alan4400:
so who’s ringing in sick?

Can’t afford to :frowning:
Only really upset cos I’ll be commuting in on the motorbike - not cos of the trucking. That’s just another vehicle to have a bash at driving in the snow (agency work).
A 10am start for me normally means A1 to Newark then back to Scunny, then motorways to Thorne and then a little place near Drax, so either motorways or town roads in the most part.
Just the 8 miles to the motorway on unclassified roads in the boonies to worry about. Struggle to pass 2 cars travelling against each other, and a 4 foot drop into the reclaimed land just a foot or so off the tarmac :smiley:

Fun fun fun! :laughing:

el gordo 78:

Willy Gofar:
Snow is a bit like high winds…

If you’re bricking it before it gets here then you’re in the wrong job.

a little concern if inexperienced is a healthy thing though.
balls-out confidence is a recipe for disaster, for someone somewhere.

nowt wrong with a bit of advice :slight_smile:

well put, was thinking the same myself

My two-penneth for what its worth.

Higest gear achievable, low revs, create as much space for yourself as you can, good anticipation, be gentle, be smooth and SLOW DOWN!