I read on a reputable internet blog commenting on cuts to the army, that:
“a large and well-known transport company (whose) policy is not to employ anyone in the TA, or to allow their employees to join…”
Any ideas who that might be? 
Just interested really.
well, if that is the case they will be prosecuted.
could it be the… “green army” which is what one of the employee calls the company he works for…,…
just a guess of course…
i’ve been googling, and i can’t find anything about any haulier doing this.
it’s a very serious offence.
OK, it’s the DM… but at least its an acknowledgeable source (mods!)
mallinsonblog.dailymail.co.uk/
Scroll down to “Hammonds New Model Army…”. must be the Green Death surely? Someone on here must know.
well, if that is the case they will be prosecuted.
Not sure what you mean here Phil.
Do you mean that the employer can be prosecuted for not employing TA members?
I had a quick look and can’t see that there are any special rules applying to TA (excepting for whilst under mobilisation)
or it could be a journo trying to mput some emphasis into his story by using an example that isnt true ,but our journos are all honest upstandig types who would never do anything as bad as that surely 
del949:
well, if that is the case they will be prosecuted.
Not sure what you mean here Phil.
Do you mean that the employer can be prosecuted for not employing TA members?
I had a quick look and can’t see that there are any special rules applying to TA (excepting for whilst under mobilisation)
it is an offence not to allow an employee to participate in reserve activities.
it makes no difference if the employee has been called up or not. an employer has the right to ask the home secretary to have his employee temporarily exempt from service.
i’m not sure what the charge would be, but i’d like to see a charge of treason.
philgor:
could it be the… “green army” which is what one of the employee calls the company he works for…,…just a guess of course…
I’m a stobarts! 4 ( IV ) para reservist 
The Reserve Forces (Safeguard of Employment) Act 1985 (SOE 85) provides Reservists who have a liability to be mobilised with two types of protection:
Protection of employment: the Act provides protection from unfair dismissal and makes it a criminal offence for an employer to terminate a Reservist’s job without their consent solely or mainly because he or she has a liability to be mobilised; and
Rights to reinstatement: the Act provides a legal right to reinstate the Reservist to their former job, subject to certain conditions.
Protection of employment
If your Reservist employee is mobilised, when they return you have an obligation to reinstate them in the same role and on equally favourable terms and conditions as before (or as near as practicable). They’re entitled to be re-employed for a minimum of 13, 26, or 52 weeks, depending on their length of employment prior to mobilisation. Find out what happens when a Reservist returns to work after mobilisation.
You can’t make a Reservist redundant on the grounds of their Reserve Service duties or their liability to be mobilised. Reservists can be included in the redundancy pool if this is necessary due to a downturn in business or closure of a department or branch. However, all employees should be treated consistently, and redundancy criteria should not discriminate against Reservists on the grounds of their Reserve service or call-up liability. See redundancy advice for more details.
You should be informed through the Ministry of Defence’s “Employer Notification” system if you employ a Reservist or if an existing employee joins the Reserve Forces (except in Northern Ireland where this does not apply). You are not allowed to dismiss an employee because he or she is, or has a liability to be, mobilised for full time service because they are a Reservist. See finding out you employ a Reservist.
it is an offence not to allow an employee to participate in reserve activities.
slightly different from refusing to employ them, or making it a condition of employment that they don’t sign up.
Is a “reservist” the same as a Territorial Army member?
i thought a reservist was an ex member of the armed forces.
del949:
it is an offence not to allow an employee to participate in reserve activities.
slightly different from refusing to employ them, or making it a condition of employment that they don’t sign up.
Is a “reservist” the same as a Territorial Army member?
i thought a reservist was an ex member of the armed forces.
no. a reservist is TA, or ex regular.
i’m waiting for confirmation about people not being given employment on the basis that they are a reservist.
it could be discrimination at the very least.
it would be nice to find out which firm it is. the publicity would finish them.
Maybe I shoudn’t have started this 
Still, if it’s true…
Well if your shifts include a weekend, which is when TA training is on, then obviously your job (as it is the mortgage payer) comes first. So you don’t attend any weekend training. So you get told to hand your kit in. Or you scive off your job lots to go playing toy soldiers. Which makes you loose your job…
Oh, don’t forget. 9 out of 10 TA units are run by ex-regulars who sleep at the TA centre and find it hard to understand the fact that you have a job/wife/kids/a life outside of it and can’t seem to understand that your employer wants more than half an hours notice for time off…
lankyphil:
Well if your shifts include a weekend, which is when TA training is on, then obviously your job (as it is the mortgage payer) comes first. So you don’t attend any weekend training. So you get told to hand your kit in. Or you scive off your job lots to go playing toy soldiers. Which makes you loose your job…Oh, don’t forget. 9 out of 10 TA units are run by ex-regulars who sleep at the TA centre and find it hard to understand the fact that you have a job/wife/kids/a life outside of it and can’t seem to understand that your employer wants more than half an hours notice for time off…
Well none of the PSI’s slept at my centre when I was in, and I was told several times “You’re priorities should be family, then your job, then the TA!” and that was from one of the regulars!
bazza123:
lankyphil:
Well if your shifts include a weekend, which is when TA training is on, then obviously your job (as it is the mortgage payer) comes first. So you don’t attend any weekend training. So you get told to hand your kit in. Or you scive off your job lots to go playing toy soldiers. Which makes you loose your job…Oh, don’t forget. 9 out of 10 TA units are run by ex-regulars who sleep at the TA centre and find it hard to understand the fact that you have a job/wife/kids/a life outside of it and can’t seem to understand that your employer wants more than half an hours notice for time off…
Well none of the PSI’s slept at my centre when I was in, and I was told several times “You’re priorities should be family, then your job, then the TA!” and that was from one of the regulars!
agreed, the only person who sleeps at a TA centre is the caretaker.
And the work life balance is always family, job, TA
It probably means that they will enforce the legislation already in place, as up until now they haven’t bothered.
One of the first letters that 1 of my mates recieved in 2004 contained his P45 when he complined to Sabre they weren’t interested.
You can understand smaller employers not taking on members of the TA, my boss has lost me and another bloke at our depot for a total of 5 years since 2003 and we are both away again next years for the best part of 11 months.
grousebeater
The Rqms, psao and raowo regularly slept there, with psi’s staying after drill nights…
Guessing you’re obviously lucky with decent staff. And yet my last unit always wondered why they were the worst in the brigade for being under-recruited…
I don’t know what the initials above mean but guess that the "raowo "refers to a warrant officer.
Son in law is a WO working with the TA at present (preparations for active service as I understand it) and the army rents him a bungalow as he is away from home all week.
Definately does not sleep on site.
del949:
I don’t know what the initials above mean but guess that the "raowo "refers to a warrant officer.
Son in law is a WO working with the TA at present (preparations for active service as I understand it) and the army rents him a bungalow as he is away from home all week.Definately does not sleep on site.
OK. I didn’t say all of them do, I simply mean that that is the attitude that I have found in at least two units in the Merseyside area.
I.e., no transport for a weekend after 1730. But yet most blokes don’t finish work till 1730. Tough luck. How can that be encouraging for recruitment and retention?
Yeah I guess I must have been lucky. That said we did have our fair share of [zb’s] same as everywhere else. Had some good laughs tho too.