Why is it portrayed in such a bad way, the following descriptions are always quoted by the councils, general public and anti lorry lobbyists :
Get lorries off the road and freight on trains.
My answer is, what and who will deliver the goods to the final destination once the train arrives at the rail head ?
Ban lorries from the A34 in the daytime .
Answer : Lorries aren’t the problem, its the increase in car traffic that delays lorries, cars that crash on a sunny day .
Menacing rumbling juggernauts shake our house foundation and keep us awake all night, ban them .
Answer :You bought a house by a main road, what did you expect ?
Traffic reports of daily jackknives, really, I don’t believe it, it gets the punters attention to say that rather than a Lgv has a blowout and the Wombles have coned off three lane
toby1234abc:
Why is it portrayed in such a bad way
Aggressive driving, poor standards, tailgaiting cars at less than 10ft through motorway roadworks, 5 mile overtakes on dual carriageways, bottles full of ■■■■ on the verges, bags full of ■■■ in laybys, the aroma of ■■■■ in MSA lorry parking areas, closing roads because they lose their load, closing roads because they hit clearly signed bridges…
toby1234abc:
Why is it portrayed in such a bad way
Aggressive driving, poor standards, tailgaiting cars at less than 10ft through motorway roadworks, 5 mile overtakes on dual carriageways, bottles full of ■■■■ on the verges, bags full of ■■■ in laybys, the aroma of ■■■■ in MSA lorry parking areas, closing roads because they lose their load, closing roads because they hit clearly signed bridges…
Conor:
Aggressive driving, poor standards, tailgaiting cars at less than 10ft through motorway roadworks, 5 mile overtakes on dual carriageways, bottles full of ■■■■ on the verges, bags full of ■■■ in laybys, the aroma of ■■■■ in MSA lorry parking areas, closing roads because they lose their load, closing roads because they hit clearly signed bridges…
FFS conor, thank god you dont drive hgvs anymore if that was how you behaved
Conor:
Aggressive driving, poor standards, tailgaiting cars at less than 10ft through motorway roadworks, 5 mile overtakes on dual carriageways, bottles full of ■■■■ on the verges, bags full of ■■■ in laybys, the aroma of ■■■■ in MSA lorry parking areas, closing roads because they lose their load, closing roads because they hit clearly signed bridges…
FFS conor, thank god you dont drive hgvs anymore if that was how you behaved
To be fair though, I do agree with him.
Drivers have always been their own worst enemies, especially the dicks amongst us, who are also the good driver’s worst enemies.
These ■■■■ stars a have a lot to answer for, overnight parking bans on many sites used for years being the main one.
Here’s an example;
Going to work this morning following a Gist lorry into Witney. He gets to the delivery gate at Marriotts Walk and rather than park at the roadside and walk to the intercom on the gate like every other M and S and Gist trucks do, he turns across the road to the closed gate. Puts his hazards on and sits there. Completely blocked the road which is mighty clever considering it’s within a stones’ throw of the community hospital, police and fire stations. I waited a couple of minutes still the gate didn’t open but Mr Gist Driver just sits there, even though I’d sat back far enough for him to reverse back and park sensibly like all the others. No, sits there and sits there with an increasing queue of what were once patient drivers. Fed up I blew my horn at the prick in the vain hope of someone lodging a noise complaint at said driver (no horns are allowed there) so hopefully he wont be allowed back again.
Probably a limper too.
Maybe the Gist driver was on his first visit to that site…just a thought, i probably would have don the same, if i didnt know the rules of that site and its entrance…we all can learn. There are many issues of hgv drivers bad behaviour, the mess left in laybys, bad inconsiderate driving and other behaviour like they own the roads. Service areas stinking of you know what, dress codes like wearing their breakfast down the front of their clothes, hands full of grease, or so dirty yet queue without washing, and handling foodstuffs instead of the tongs provided…the public have a bad image of us, and always have, think we are uncouth, dirty, smelly, etc etc.
Put the freight on the railways ■■? many suggest that, without wondering how do you get it from the station to the customer…thousands of transit vans…20 + vans = 1 x artic…so completely block up the towns and villages with one delivery…yes mate…thats the way forward. with that kind of thinking it will, never change will it…my idea works better: Make no more food, then we cant deliver it…grow no more food, then no need to pick it, pack it, and deliver it…everyone walk everywhere…that way we can get rid of the cars and buses…ok…we will allow bicycles…but no baskets or carriers on them…wel no need really. Stop building housing…we all move in with each other, just to fill up the rooms, thats bricks and cement rid off. we have achieved a great deal so far…we have no need to import fuel, as we wont need so much…wear next to nothing…that does away with the need to import cheap chinese/taiwan clothing… so thats done away with a lot of imports, we dont need the ferries anymore, and we can brick up the tunnel. In a short time we will all have died of starvation, and from the cold, leaving our once wonderful country…to the knobs who thought cutting back on haulage will be a good thing.
Muckaway:
Here’s an example;
Going to work this morning following a Gist lorry into Witney. He gets to the delivery gate at Marriotts Walk and rather than park at the roadside and walk to the intercom on the gate like every other M and S and Gist trucks do, he turns across the road to the closed gate. Puts his hazards on and sits there. Completely blocked the road which is mighty clever considering it’s within a stones’ throw of the community hospital, police and fire stations. I waited a couple of minutes still the gate didn’t open but Mr Gist Driver just sits there, even though I’d sat back far enough for him to reverse back and park sensibly like all the others. No, sits there and sits there with an increasing queue of what were once patient drivers. Fed up I blew my horn at the prick in the vain hope of someone lodging a noise complaint at said driver (no horns are allowed there) so hopefully he wont be allowed back again.
Probably a limper too.
My luck would be that whilst I’d pulled up out the way to go and ask a regular would pull up to the gate and go in then theyed make me wait whilst they tipped him first , sorry block the job off I say .
Not having lived in the UK for a very long time ive no idea what the average msa is like now but are the toilets that bad that its preferable to ■■■■ and p1ss in the truck park? Or…is it laziness not wanting to walk to the bogs?? Only ask as most of them are described as a p1ss bowl…
AndrewG:
Not having lived in the UK for a very long time ive no idea what the average msa is like now but are the toilets that bad that its preferable to [zb] and p1ss in the truck park? Or…is it laziness not wanting to walk to the bogs?? Only ask as most of them are described as a p1ss bowl…
AndrewG:
Not having lived in the UK for a very long time ive no idea what the average msa is like now but are the toilets that bad that its preferable to [zb] and p1ss in the truck park? Or…is it laziness not wanting to walk to the bogs?? Only ask as most of them are described as a p1ss bowl…
just sheer bone idleness
Put it this way Andrew. I was having a ■■■■■ (in the toilets) at Lymm services this morning, and right in front of me at the urinals was an advert for TENA men’s ■■■■ pads!
I don’t believe that most truckers have weak bladders. As pointed out, just bone idle unhygienic ■■■■.
toby1234abc:
Get lorries off the road and freight on trains.
My answer is, what and who will deliver the goods to the final destination once the train arrives at the rail head ?
The main issue with the “get the freight on the railways” argument, is how long it all takes.
By road by example, you can collect a load in Liverpool at 6am and be delivering it down the country at say Milton Keynes at around lunchtime. Door to door in half a day. Do that by rail and you’d be adding about 12-24 hours onto that…
Haulier collects load.
Haulier drives to rail head and potentially waits 1-2 hours for load to be lifted. (by which time they could be half way there)
Load put on train & then await trains departure. (add another few hours)
Train goes to Milton Keynes
Load awaits collection by haulier.
Haulier drives to customer & delivers, probably sometime the next day.
I forsee problems in todays “next day delivery” society…
When I worked for Blake’s at Studley, they ran a year long trial with containers from Birmingham to Glasgow. They would load a refrigerated container early evening and take it to Hams Hall to be shipped overnight. They gave up after six months of delayed trains, containers left behind, damaged loads from rough handling etc.
Cheaper and more reliable to trailer swap at Preston.
It’s the public that have escaped from the asylum - rather than the workforce.
How can the public expect “Next day delivery on everything” and also want to “ban trucks from coming into their town”.
Either the public goes to a huge depot in another town to collect OR the whole lot is going to be delivered by white van man paying 65p more in NICs, driven by an immigrant 25-30 year old pretending to be a teenager who doesn’t even vote Labour, and is signed up for Uber to get his shiny £3.50 per hour which will just about keep him in limeade.
Yesterday I was travelling between Buckingham and Milton Keynes in a line of traffic doing about 45-50. In front of my there was a ■■■■■■■■ in an artic driving right up the arse of the car in front of him just because the car driver (who was probably elderly) was leaving a safe space between himself and the car in front. It was dangerous, rude, aggressive and down right ■■■■■■■■ behaviour. Idiots like that give us a bad name.
Santa:
Cheaper and more reliable to trailer swap at Preston.
Only asking but why would you swop trailers at such short distance. I realise its the same man hours, same fuel and same wear and tear but two trucks?
Avoids the need for nights out, each driver can return to their own depot within the one shift a lot of trunks to Scotland are done in this way. Four hours up the road four hours back down easy days work
