thetastytrucker:
So do you think this will affect the driver shortage ? My personal opinion is that it will have a massive impact on class 2 drivers as most class 2 Work now pays on average £8 - £9 per hr
For eample The German-owned supermarket chain lidl average pay rise of £1,200 per year for thousands of staff, with all UK employees receiving at least £8.20 an hour in England, Scotland and Wales and at least £9.35 in London.
Why would you pay to do your class 2 and cpc per year etc etc when above jobs are avaliable
Wait a bit.
Been for a collection in Enfield and Warehouse gets £9.50 with plenty of Overtime
thetastytrucker:
So do you think this will affect the driver shortage ? My personal opinion is that it will have a massive impact on class 2 drivers as most class 2 Work now pays on average £8 - £9 per hr
For eample The German-owned supermarket chain lidl average pay rise of £1,200 per year for thousands of staff, with all UK employees receiving at least £8.20 an hour in England, Scotland and Wales and at least £9.35 in London.
Why would you pay to do your class 2 and cpc per year etc etc when above jobs are avaliable
Being in the slightly dubious position of having once worked in a Lidl warehouse and now driving class 2 i find myself qualified to answer this question.
For me class 2 work wins hands down.Working for Lidl (or probably in any other warehouse) is a miserable existence which can only be likened to groundhog day.Day in day out doing the same monotonous job,seeing the same miserable faces and having them all important pick rates to hit.And it can be real heavy going at times.Do a 12 hour shift in the fruit and veg section and you’ll know about it the next day.Or how about working in the chilled or freezer section,freezing your nuts off all shift? …and last but not least the expectations of management that you will stop back and do overtime (paid at standard rate) whenever the business requires it (daily).
So what if the wages are close in comparison.I know what i’d rather be doing.
thetastytrucker:
So do you think this will affect the driver shortage ? My personal opinion is that it will have a massive impact on class 2 drivers as most class 2 Work now pays on average £8 - £9 per hr
There are class two jobs jobs out there paying less than £8 hour. In the last year someone tried to offer me £7 hour for driving a 32 tonne tipper and another offered £7.20 hour for steel deliveries (or £8 hour on artics). I have seen FLT jobs at minimum wage and also general ‘inside jobs’ working for a flat rate minimum wage on 24/7 shift patterns.
The specific problem (IMHO), is that there are too many scam merchants out there, that want ‘something for nothing’ at someone else’s expense. Working full time shouldn’t mean living in poverty to fund someone else’s luxury lifestyle. There is undeniably a driver shortage out there, or to be more precise a shortage of drivers willing to do certain types of driving work, or work for peanuts.
Juddian:
I read that there was legislation passed this (last week cos its now Sunday) cutting the family credit benefit or whatever its called.
Given that currently once you get to £15 grand you get nowt other than child tax credit which you get up to £32k the changes aren’t really going to affect many truck drivers other than part timers.
Andrejs:
Where we are can earn same money what get truck drivers?
Aldi.
Where you can work and have plenty of waiting time ■■?Where can sleep at work 2-4 hours.
I don’t get plenty of waiting time in my job. I trunk trailers on nights to places where my return one is already waiting. I have 45 minutes a night which is my break. Occasionally I’ll do a changeover with Scottish drivers but that is a 30 minute wait at most. No sleeping 2-4hrs for me.
Why, when talking pay for driving, is it always up against supermarket, non driving work? I just don’t get the correlation between driving c&e and working in a shop.
BillyHunt:
Why, when talking pay for driving, is it always up against supermarket, non driving work? I just don’t get the correlation between driving c&e and working in a shop.
Could it perhaps be that the supermarket box jockeys are only capable of moving groceries around??
BillyHunt:
Why, when talking pay for driving, is it always up against supermarket, non driving work? I just don’t get the correlation between driving c&e and working in a shop.
One requires basically no skill, no qualifications, has little responsibility and has very low risk to both the employee and those they come into contact with.
The other requires at least two qualifications, monetary outlay and carries a high level of both risk and responsibility yet the two levels of pay are similar which is why they’re often compared.
I’m not ‘that’ into economics to pretend that I understand the truth behind the so called “living wage” . . . but I do understand enough to know that it will most certainly NOT be to the benefit of the lower rungs of the ladder to which we belong.
thetastytrucker:
So do you think this will affect the driver shortage ? My personal opinion is that it will have a massive impact on class 2 drivers as most class 2 Work now pays on average £8 - £9 per hr
For eample The German-owned supermarket chain lidl average pay rise of £1,200 per year for thousands of staff, with all UK employees receiving at least £8.20 an hour in England, Scotland and Wales and at least £9.35 in London.
Why would you pay to do your class 2 and cpc per year etc etc when above jobs are avaliable
Because if you’re otherwise unskilled a life of stacking shelves is indescribably more boring and dull compared to HGV driving.
BillyHunt:
Why, when talking pay for driving, is it always up against supermarket, non driving work? I just don’t get the correlation between driving c&e and working in a shop.
One requires basically no skill, no qualifications, has little responsibility and has very low risk to both the employee and those they come into contact with.
The other requires at least two qualifications, monetary outlay and carries a high level of both risk and responsibility yet the two levels of pay are similar which is why they’re often compared.
That’s true in some cases but you could say the same about drivers & junior doctors. One needs 2 basic qualifications & not much else while the other requires years of university, years of training, the ability to make life saving decisions almost daily, and, if the money being talked about in the media is correct, for less than you can make driving trucks.
BillyHunt:
Why, when talking pay for driving, is it always up against supermarket, non driving work? I just don’t get the correlation between driving c&e and working in a shop.
One requires basically no skill, no qualifications, has little responsibility and has very low risk to both the employee and those they come into contact with.
The other requires at least two qualifications, monetary outlay and carries a high level of both risk and responsibility yet the two levels of pay are similar which is why they’re often compared.
That’s true in some cases but you could say the same about drivers & junior doctors. One needs 2 basic qualifications & not much else while the other requires years of university, years of training, the ability to make life saving decisions almost daily, and, if the money being talked about in the media is correct, for less than you can make driving trucks.
The theory is correct. Skillset, training, responsibility, stress, ongoing accountability and constant review do not correlate with much of a wage increase inline with the extra stressors.
Doctors don’t earn less than HGV drivers overall, however a junior trainee working 80 hour weeks maybe on par. Many Pilots flying for regional airlines earn the same as HGV drivers for the supermarkets and less than train drivers. Both these professions are full of people who do it because they love it and take their responsibilities very seriously but the gulf in pay and working hours degredation is starting to make a lot of people very angry.
Angry because they live under incredible pressure to be at 100 percent candle burning, clicky fingers on gameness, night or day whilst suffering degrading pay and lifestyles that add to those pressures. To live for years being expected to be that on game takes its toll. If you had a lifestyle that allowed time to recover it maybe some help, not not anymore. To do this to 65 is ill conceivable. It’s not by accident that these two professions have the highest rate of early deaths due Ill health plus alsorts of other hidden demons Jeremy “Whine” would love to make a program about such as mental health issues and alcoholism. That is the truth.
People don’t want to hear it and would winge and complain, ring into radio shows with their “opinions” like they’re shocked and need someone to blame when an accident happens or a story comes out. But we’re all to blame. You are when you take a 30 quid ticket to Faro with Ryanair or sit in A&E with the runs or sore finger. It’s coming down on someone. People don’t like taking responsibilities for their actions these days, it’s all passed along and someone else’s fault. No one ever thinks beyond the immediate like we’re all kids who are divorced of adult imagination, then we moan when it comes home to roost. I’ve been guilty of this blinkered behaviour. We all are.
