When you get married, you can never win a discussion, 
last year I got my wife a expensive card & roses for our 50th anniversary. This time my wife said my daughter asked if I got flowers and card, she said no, I replied it was special last year, she replied every year is special. 
it might be for you but not for me! why she said, because in all the times I have sent cards and flowers, I have not recieved one card or token from you, marriage seems one sided. 
she never said a word. 
Sounds as if you are on a hiding to nothing Norm, which is usually the case with women.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
Sounds as if you are on a hiding to nothing Norm, which is usually the case with women.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
Dave point to man who says he has ever got one over on the fairer ■■■
and I’ll nominate the same guy for the title of Billy’s weekly liar.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
Dave the Renegade:
Sounds as if you are on a hiding to nothing Norm, which is usually the case with women.
Cheers Dave.hiya,
Dave point to man who says he has ever got one over on the fairer ■■■
and I’ll nominate the same guy for the title of Billy’s weekly liar.
thanks harry, long retired.
In most cases you are right Harry, but there are a few mugs around that have been well and truly fleeced by the fairer ■■■.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
Dave the Renegade:
Sounds as if you are on a hiding to nothing Norm, which is usually the case with women.
Cheers Dave.hiya,
Dave point to man who says he has ever got one over on the fairer ■■■
and I’ll nominate the same guy for the title of Billy’s weekly liar.
thanks harry, long retired.In most cases you are right Harry, but there are a few mugs around that have been well and truly fleeced by the fairer ■■■.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
Yep’ they can flutter their eyelashes and clear out a guy’s life savings in one swift movement.
thanks harry, long retired.
Yes lads I know of three chaps who worked on Carlsberg who got fleeced by their wives. I say trust them 99,0/0 but leave one per cent for doubt and you will not be caught without a penny. I think the saying of don’t put all your eggs in one basket, may have come from a pennyless married man. 
Norman Ingram:
Yes lads I know of three chaps who worked on Carlsberg who got fleeced by their wives. I say trust them 99,0/0 but leave one per cent for doubt and you will not be caught without a penny. I think the saying of don’t put all your eggs in one basket,
hiya,
Ah’ but Norman, what would we do without them with all their feminine
wiles and their secretive ways if nothing else they’re a challenge and the
saying is “everybody loves a challenge”.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
Norman Ingram:
Yes lads I know of three chaps who worked on Carlsberg who got fleeced by their wives. I say trust them 99,0/0 but leave one per cent for doubt and you will not be caught without a penny. I think the saying of don’t put all your eggs in one basket,hiya,
Ah’ but Norman, what would we do without them with all their feminine
wiles and their secretive ways if nothing else they’re a challenge and the
saying is “everybody loves a challenge”.
thanks harry, long retired.
The secret is don’t marry them, just love them and live together.
Cheers Dave.
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larry 
v7victor:
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larry
hiya,
Now Vic if I’d had access to this outfit and with a full barrel I definitely would have
heeded my uncles advice, best I could muster back then was an old very unreliable
Ariel square four, wish I had it now though, worth a mint.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
v7victor:
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larryhiya,
Now Vic if I’d had access to this outfit and with a full barrel I definitely would have
heeded my uncles advice, best I could muster back then was an old very unreliable
Ariel square four, wish I had it now though, worth a mint.
thanks harry, long retired.
Bloody hell Harry, you had a big bike in those days an Ariel Square Four, next to the HRD Vincent you were king of the road.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
v7victor:
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larryhiya,
Now Vic if I’d had access to this outfit and with a full barrel I definitely would have
heeded my uncles advice, best I could muster back then was an old very unreliable
Ariel square four, wish I had it now though, worth a mint.
thanks harry, long retired.Bloody hell Harry, you had a big bike in those days an Ariel Square Four, next to the HRD Vincent you were king of the road.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
Dave I don’t think there was any restrictions as to what you could or could not ride
if there was I didn’t take any notice, 1957 I was 21 I did get my hands on a Vincent
Black Shadow too but didn’t keep it long it wasn’t very reliable either, you could buy
those things for a song back then, wish I’d filled a shed with them, at that time it
was cars that were coming on the scene and motorbikes were for nothing.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
v7victor:
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larryhiya,
Now Vic if I’d had access to this outfit and with a full barrel I definitely would have
heeded my uncles advice, best I could muster back then was an old very unreliable
Ariel square four, wish I had it now though, worth a mint.
thanks harry, long retired.Bloody hell Harry, you had a big bike in those days an Ariel Square Four, next to the HRD Vincent you were king of the road.
Cheers Dave.hiya,
Dave I don’t think there was any restrictions as to what you could or could not ride
if there was I didn’t take any notice, 1957 I was 21 I did get my hands on a Vincent
Black Shadow too but didn’t keep it long it wasn’t very reliable either, you could buy
those things for a song back then, wish I’d filled a shed with them, at that time it
was cars that were coming on the scene and motorbikes were for nothing.
thanks harry, long retired.
Yes that’s about right Harry, had motorbikes myself and nearly bought a Matchless 650, but would have wound in a worse state than what I am now, so commonsense made me buy an Austin A35 van which was immaculate, also warm and dry to travel to work in. One of my few better decisions.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
After I married in late 1957 and all my worldly goods had been sold/swapped
to furnish the house I came down with a bump and could only manage a BSA
bantam (a gift) from a lad going to Australia and his mother made him get it
out of the backyard but at least it was reliable and got me to and from work
for a few years with nothing more than the cost of a tyre and a bulb or two.
Of course there was no test and in my case I can’t remember ever insuring or
putting any tax on it, or any of the bikes for that matter. 
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
hiya,
After I married in late 1957 and all my worldly goods had been sold/swapped
to furnish the house I came down with a bump and could only manage a BSA
bantam (a gift) from a lad going to Australia and his mother made him get it
out of the backyard but at least it was reliable and got me to and from work
for a few years with nothing more than the cost of a tyre and a bulb or two.
Of course there was no test and in my case I can’t remember ever insuring or
putting any tax on it, or any of the bikes for that matter.
thanks harry, long retired.
There was a test in my day Harry, you couldn’t ride anything over 250cc until you passed your test, now its 125cc I think. I passed the bike test in 1964 and the car test in 1965. It showed John Craven on a BSA Bantam the other week, a good little bike to start with, or for getting to work etc.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
hiya,
After I married in late 1957 and all my worldly goods had been sold/swapped
to furnish the house I came down with a bump and could only manage a BSA
bantam (a gift) from a lad going to Australia and his mother made him get it
out of the backyard but at least it was reliable and got me to and from work
for a few years with nothing more than the cost of a tyre and a bulb or two.
Of course there was no test and in my case I can’t remember ever insuring or
putting any tax on it, or any of the bikes for that matter.
thanks harry, long retired.There was a test in my day Harry, you couldn’t ride anything over 250cc until you passed your test, now its 125cc I think. I passed the bike test in 1964 and the car test in 1965. It showed John Craven on a BSA Bantam the other week, a good little bike to start with, or for getting to work etc.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
Got through the bike test a few weeks past my 16th birthday and the car test a
little bit after my 17th birthday but didn’t get a “full time car” until I was in my
early 20s although got to drive the old mans if he was feeling benevolent or had a
drink too many, but of course drove all sorts of stuff in the forces and of course I
was driving as a civilian driver when I hit 21 and had “escaped from the mines”.
thanks harry, long retired.
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
v7victor:
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larryhiya,
Now Vic if I’d had access to this outfit and with a full barrel I definitely would have
heeded my uncles advice, best I could muster back then was an old very unreliable
Ariel square four, wish I had it now though, worth a mint.
thanks harry, long retired.Bloody hell Harry, you had a big bike in those days an Ariel Square Four, next to the HRD Vincent you were king of the road.
Cheers Dave.
Once had a go on a Black Shadow, bloody terrified me. I never actually owned a bike, Ace mechanic of Youtube fame once had a little water cooled Yamaha, ye gods, it was death on two wheels, I took it up the road, just once,…I pushed it back. Power came in at about 5000rpm and after that it was uncontrollable. No, bikes were not for me, give me something with a roof and a windscreen.
grumpy old man:
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
v7victor:
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larryhiya,
Now Vic if I’d had access to this outfit and with a full barrel I definitely would have
heeded my uncles advice, best I could muster back then was an old very unreliable
Ariel square four, wish I had it now though, worth a mint.
thanks harry, long retired.Bloody hell Harry, you had a big bike in those days an Ariel Square Four, next to the HRD Vincent you were king of the road.
Cheers Dave.Once had a go on a Black Shadow, bloody terrified me.
hiya,
The Ariel and the Vincent were meant to be use as combinations and my Ariel
did have the third wheel but a builders box instead of the posh sidecar I never
changed it and I was known to move a gas cooker or two when it was in my
care or should that read “lack of care”, there you go I couldn’t get away from
haulage even when the old Octopus was resting.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
grumpy old man:
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
v7victor:
Got the right combination for you here Harry,you too Larryhiya,
Now Vic if I’d had access to this outfit and with a full barrel I definitely would have
heeded my uncles advice, best I could muster back then was an old very unreliable
Ariel square four, wish I had it now though, worth a mint.
thanks harry, long retired.Bloody hell Harry, you had a big bike in those days an Ariel Square Four, next to the HRD Vincent you were king of the road.
Cheers Dave.Once had a go on a Black Shadow, bloody terrified me.
hiya,
The Ariel and the Vincent were meant to be use as combinations and my Ariel
did have the third wheel but a builders box instead of the posh sidecar I never
changed it and I was known to move a gas cooker or two when it was in my
care or should that read “lack of care”, there you go I couldn’t get away from
haulage even when the old Octopus was resting.
thanks harry, long retired.
When I was a kid in the early to mid 1950’s the Forestry Commission foreman had a motor bike combination with a box, similar to those that the AA patrolmen had.
Cheers Dave.
harry_gill:
Dave the Renegade:
harry_gill:
hiya,
After I married in late 1957 and all my worldly goods had been sold/swapped
to furnish the house I came down with a bump and could only manage a BSA
bantam (a gift) from a lad going to Australia and his mother made him get it
out of the backyard but at least it was reliable and got me to and from work
for a few years with nothing more than the cost of a tyre and a bulb or two.
Of course there was no test and in my case I can’t remember ever insuring or
putting any tax on it, or any of the bikes for that matter.
thanks harry, long retired.There was a test in my day Harry, you couldn’t ride anything over 250cc until you passed your test, now its 125cc I think. I passed the bike test in 1964 and the car test in 1965. It showed John Craven on a BSA Bantam the other week, a good little bike to start with, or for getting to work etc.
Cheers Dave.hiya,
Got through the bike test a few weeks past my 16th birthday and the car test a
little bit after my 17th birthday but didn’t get a “full time car” until I was in my
early 20s although got to drive the old mans if he was feeling benevolent or had a
drink too many, but of course drove all sorts of stuff in the forces and of course I
was driving as a civilian driver when I hit 21 and had “escaped from the mines”.
thanks harry, long retired.
hiya,
Must add a PS to this by test I meant the MOT test the actual ability to ride test I
took on a little Royal Enfield can’t remember the model it was borrowed just for
the test a few days after my 16th birthday, didn’t want to part with the bike when
I got the thumbs up from the examiner and think I’d used a couple of tankfuls of
petrol before taking it back it did belong to a relative so he didn’t mind.
thanks harry, long retired.