are you in lockdown,mushrooman?
There is actual evidence on the ineffectiveness of vaccines.
For example your more protected by the Delta variant if you have natural immunity.
timesofisrael.com/study-cov … -vaccines/
(Maybe this is classed as jewish propaganda lol but Israel is the most vaccinated country in the world.
I like the warning at the top of the article though. “Experts stress this should not discourage vaccination”
Which is why a country like Sweden which is not well vaccinated is now blocking travelers from the most vaccinated country in the world (Israel)
government.se/press-release … macedonia/
Also you can not sue the makers of the vaccine if you have side effects.
cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-v … wsuit.html
And there are side effects in particular if you are young.
newscientist.com/article/mg … ccination/
Then we have actually research from the university of oxford.
ox.ac.uk/news/2021-08-19-va … tudy-covid
“Two doses of either vaccine still provided at least the same level of protection as having had COVID-19 before through natural infection”
So same levels of protection.
"We don’t yet know how much transmission can happen from people who get COVID-19 after being vaccinated – for example, they may have high levels of virus for shorter periods of time.
“But the fact that they can have high levels of virus suggests that people who aren’t yet vaccinated may not be as protected from the Delta variant as we hoped.”
Basically means if you get the jab your still likely to spread it. The vaccine does not stop the spread.
So should you take the vaccines? Well If I was a 50 year old male that was overweight with health issues then yes.
If I was a 21 year old healthy male then no.
From what I have read there is very little to suggest that by me not getting the vaccine I am not putting anyone else in any danger because the transmissibility of the virus does not change vaccinated or vaccinated. If anything I am only putting myself at risk by not having the vaccine.
Also I am under 30 and it appears side effects are more likely to occur in those under 30.
I can understand why the government want everyone vaccinated though as it is all about protecting the NHS. But, for me, that’s not good enough.
Monkey241:
DCPCFML:
Juddian, give it up chap. None of them will bother reading anything what you or anyone else writes unless you can back it up with a link to their paid BBC propaganda “news” source. At best all you’ll get is a load of irrelevant strawman argument ‘noise’, as you can see. 99% of them won’t have any issue with vaxxing kids and babies and probably think it’s a good thing. The other 1% who don’t agree won’t do anything about it and will just go along with it.On the contrary I’ll balance the available evidence and make a decision based on that.
I’m intrigued though…at what point in time after it being introduced would you deem it safe?
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Well I was reluctant to take the vaccine.
So I didnt.
Now this article came out last month.
newscientist.com/article/mg … ccination/
New side effects keep popping up as time progresses. No one knew about this a few months ago.
This is why long term studies are needed.
But for many particularly the vulnerable. The benefits of the covid jab outweigh the risks. But for me who has a very small risk of being hospitalized by the virus it is not worth taking.
It’s why the JCVI has not recommended the vaccine to kids.
gov.uk/government/news/jcvi … d-12-to-15
“the margin of benefit is considered too small to support universal vaccination of healthy 12 to 15 year olds at this time.”
No doubt the government will ignore this advice though because they will consider “societal issues” in their decision making. Like teachers complaining.
You’ve been busy Adam, well done.
I’ll have a nosy through that little lot at the weekend. 
Juddian:
You’ve been busy Adam, well done.
I’ll have a nosy through that little lot at the weekend.
What’s interesting is the government has started doing public service announcements ( heard one on LBC) via the NHS telling the public to still you the NHS test and trace app as the vaccinations do not stop you from spreading the virus.
So the vaccine is not going to result in a return to normality.
There are still cases of COVID-19 in England and there is a risk you could catch or pass on the virus, even once you are fully vaccinated. This means it is important that you understand and consider the risks of catching or spreading COVID-19 in all situations
Your 12 to 15 year old children to be injected, for mental health reasons?
Sent to me thismorning.
Funeral director from Milton Keynes blows the whistle on what has really been happening, and his prediction of what will.
Even if no one else does, if you have children in the age group 12/15 or younger, please watch this.
the maoster:
At the risk of repeating my self. Nobody but you mentioned colour.
conservatism is black and white - and therefore was never about “Colour”. 
Growing up in Brixton in the 70’s - there were no “stabbings”, no “intimidation”, no “Race Riots”. A problem has been created in the years since between races that simply wasn’t there before.
“Positive Discrimination” creates “Resentment” among ordinary people who feel that they’ve been pushed back down waiting lists and general pecking order for things they thought they’d paid for.
The world needs to be rid of “Critical Race Theory” in the same way it tries to rid itself of Mein Kampf concepts.
We have problems with BOTH far Left AND Right - but for a so-called Government OF the right to come down like a ton of bricks only on the Right all the time - can only lead to even more resentment in the future.
Winseer:
the maoster:
At the risk of repeating my self. Nobody but you mentioned colour.conservatism is black and white - and therefore was never about “Colour”.
Growing up in Brixton in the 70’s - there were no “stabbings”, no “intimidation”, no “Race Riots”. A problem has been created in the years since between races that simply wasn’t there before.
“Positive Discrimination” creates “Resentment” among ordinary people who feel that they’ve been pushed back down waiting lists and general pecking order for things they thought they’d paid for.
The world needs to be rid of “Critical Race Theory” in the same way it tries to rid itself of Mein Kampf concepts.
We have problems with BOTH far Left AND Right - but for a so-called Government OF the right to come down like a ton of bricks only on the Right all the time - can only lead to even more resentment in the future.
What you do and don’t put in ‘inverted commas’ is interesting.
DCPCFML:
Juddian, give it up chap. None of them will bother reading anything what you or anyone else writes
Peak levels RobK irony
Juddian:
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Hopefully I had the full fat population reduction shots not the Kapo or slave drone placebos.
thank ■■■■ we don’t live in Australia…if you haven’t had your ‘jab’ 
by October 15th…you’re not going to be allowed to work…presumably to save the lives of people who have had their life-saving jab 
Aus is the testing ground i fear, soon to become practice in the rest of the west, didn’t Italy draft a directive similar for mid Oct no jab no pay, understandable in Italy mind, socialist fascists in govt used to be a thing there too.
Juddian:
socialist fascists.
^ Finally the correct terminology and link between the two descriptors.
Now allied with corporate gangsters at home who can see a profit in going along with it and too much to lose by resisting.
I guess our present leaders could be seen as just a highest level of the useful idiots.
We’ve already effectively lost the freedom to be able drive anywhere we want to with the fossil fuel coup followed by the EV smart meter.
Carryfast:
Juddian:
socialist fascists.We’ve already effectively lost the freedom to be able drive anywhere we want to with the fossil fuel coup followed by the EV smart meter.
Unfortunately CF, a lot of our fellow citizens applaud this and want more of the picture painted for them, whether its to punish themselves for something or other, being white or born with male genitalia or vise versa (you don’t usually find other ethnicities so self hating or wishing themselves into hair shirts and i don’t blame 'em), when or rather if they awaken from their programming and the utopia they crave is reality they won’t like it.
Juddian:
Carryfast:
Juddian:
socialist fascists.We’ve already effectively lost the freedom to be able drive anywhere we want to with the fossil fuel coup followed by the EV smart meter.
Unfortunately CF, a lot of our fellow citizens applaud this and want more of the picture painted for them, whether its to punish themselves for something or other, being white or born with male genitalia or vise versa (you don’t usually find other ethnicities so self hating or wishing themselves into hair shirts and i don’t blame 'em), when or rather if they awaken from their programming and the utopia they crave is reality they won’t like it.
Some of us will remember being able to go wherever we wanted to go with a tank full of fuel freely available anywhere on demand paid for with good old fashioned cash.
As opposed to the procedure for drawing electric from the smart meter at home or at the EV charging station based on the social or corporate credit score and whether the journey is approved or disapproved.Obviously the planned Croatian road trip will be off the menu next Summer.
Hopefully for me before that point the population control shots will have kicked in if that’s what they were.I’m going to ask for two boosters one in each arm just to make sure.
Carryfast:
Juddian:
Carryfast:
Juddian:
socialist fascists.We’ve already effectively lost the freedom to be able drive anywhere we want to with the fossil fuel coup followed by the EV smart meter.
Unfortunately CF, a lot of our fellow citizens applaud this and want more of the picture painted for them, whether its to punish themselves for something or other, being white or born with male genitalia or vise versa (you don’t usually find other ethnicities so self hating or wishing themselves into hair shirts and i don’t blame 'em), when or rather if they awaken from their programming and the utopia they crave is reality they won’t like it.
Some of us will remember being able to go wherever we wanted to go with a tank full of fuel freely available anywhere on demand paid for with good old fashioned cash.
As opposed to the procedure for drawing electric from the smart meter at home or at the EV charging station based on the social or corporate credit score and whether the journey is approved or disapproved.Obviously the planned Croatian road trip will be off the menu next Summer.
Hopefully for me before that point the population control shots will have kicked in if that’s what they were.I’m going to ask for two boosters one in each arm just to make sure.
I do find it fascinating to see a conspiracy develop like this. You do know there are other ways to commit suicide don’t you?
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Juddian:
Carryfast:
Juddian:
socialist fascists.We’ve already effectively lost the freedom to be able drive anywhere we want to with the fossil fuel coup followed by the EV smart meter.
Unfortunately CF, a lot of our fellow citizens applaud this and want more of the picture painted for them, whether its to punish themselves for something or other, being white or born with male genitalia or vise versa (you don’t usually find other ethnicities so self hating or wishing themselves into hair shirts and i don’t blame 'em), when or rather if they awaken from their programming and the utopia they crave is reality they won’t like it.
Some of us will remember being able to go wherever we wanted to go with a tank full of fuel freely available anywhere on demand paid for with good old fashioned cash.
As opposed to the procedure for drawing electric from the smart meter at home or at the EV charging station based on the social or corporate credit score and whether the journey is approved or disapproved.Obviously the planned Croatian road trip will be off the menu next Summer.
Hopefully for me before that point the population control shots will have kicked in if that’s what they were.I’m going to ask for two boosters one in each arm just to make sure.I do find it fascinating to see a conspiracy develop like this. You do know there are other ways to commit suicide don’t you?
One of my favourite films is Thelma And Louise.
Franglais:
switchlogic:
I do find it fascinating to see a conspiracy develop like this. You do know there are other ways to commit suicide don’t you?One of my favourite films is Thelma And Louise.
The irony chose to end it all rather than face a life of incarceration and control.
As opposed to take the ‘vaccine’ at face value as we’ve been told it is.
But ‘if’ it really is a hidden depopulation agenda shot then being taken out by it would be a bonus.
The unlucky ones would be those who were given the placebo for whatever reason.
That’s an apples v oranges comprison and deffo not suicide.