The french....

Saaamon:
Brits wont work on farms picking, just like they wont work as a cleaner, its all seen as being beneath them and even if you can get one working for you they’ll go off sick within the first ill due to knee ache or some other bullzb excuse they come up with.

:open_mouth:

It makes you wonder why anyone from any of all those better places who’s workers have made them such great places to live like Asia,Africa and Eastern Europe would want to come and live amongst such a bunch of no hopers like the Brits. :smiling_imp: :unamused:

truckyboy:
Cie La Vie…if you owned a company, would your loyalty be in the country you work from, or in the profit margins, mine would be profit, and seeing as profit margins are getting slimmer every minute, can you blame them, i dont believe you can get 3 drivers for the price of One though,.

So if we take that to it’s logical conclusion are you saying that it would have been ok if all those British conscripts in WW2 had told the government to get stuffed before their papers arrived on the door mat because it would be much more profitable ( and safer ) to leave the country to work in Switzerland or Sweden instead. :bulb: :unamused:

Many UK workers are prepared to do cleaning farming packing jobs etc but for a living wage the issue of british workers not doing these jobs is down to how employers treat them nowadays.

C/F, agree with your last posts!its about time we stopped behaving like whipped dogs and stood up for ourselves as those who went before did!! :imp:

tuckman:
Many UK workers are prepared to do cleaning farming packing jobs etc but for a living wage the issue of British workers not doing these jobs is down to how employers treat them nowadays.

Some are but theres alot who arent, from experience sometimes paying people more actually makes them less productive. Despite my proJohnny foreigner posts i’d rather get them out and have British jobs for British people but the fact is many dont want to work and those that do will quite often cause you problems so the only option left is employ Linus, he’ll work hard, wont spend all his time talking and when he wants a holiday he’ll get Magic to cover.

Harry Monk:

Saaamon:
Brits wont work on farms picking,

I’m sure they would, if the work paid enough for them to live in a farm labourers cottage as it did in the Victorian era. :wink:

Most farm workers were living in tied cottages, hell, we were in a tied cottage due to dads farm work right up untill 1967.

For those not familiar with tied accommodation, it was just that. The accommodation came , and went, with the job.

Saaamon:

tuckman:
Many UK workers are prepared to do cleaning farming packing jobs etc but for a living wage the issue of British workers not doing these jobs is down to how employers treat them nowadays.

Some are but theres alot who arent, from experience sometimes paying people more actually makes them less productive. Despite my proJohnny foreigner posts i’d rather get them out and have British jobs for British people but the fact is many dont want to work and those that do will quite often cause you problems so the only option left is employ Linus, he’ll work hard, wont spend all his time talking and when he wants a holiday he’ll get Magic to cover.

So the history of the British workers,both agricultural and industrial,from the farm labourers to the factory cleaners,and the machine operators etc etc and their unions’ struggle against the company owners and CBI,to improve and maintain living standards over the years,means nothing to you.

Your logic there seems to be more or less what any plantation owner would have used to justify using imported slave labour being used in Jamaica and the Southern US states rather than pay a decent rate to their own people to do the job. :unamused:

Having said that ironically the British unions have mainly themselves to blame for the situation owing to following the mistaken idea of socialism and the idea of workers of the world unite and support of Labour government immigration policies over the years.Just like the French unions have ironically so often had to take industrial action against their own so called bs ‘supporters’ in the French Socialist Political Parties.

Therefore it’s comments like yours are actually a good thing in showing that we need the so called ‘working class’ political parties like Labour to make a sharp turn to the so called right while turning their back on the idea of bs socialism and the ideology of ‘workers of the world unite’ because that’s why we have national borders and the interests of British workers won’t be helped by co operating with the interests of those of foreign ones.Just as those foreign workers don’t give a zb about the interests of their British counterparts.In which case you’re actually helping to make the case against your own pro immigration cause.Maybe it’s already started in that even the Daily Mirror seems to be shooting down it’s own support of Labour Party Socialist pro immigration policies over the years,now that the realisation,that such socialist bs,isn’t in the interests of the indigenous workforce,is gradually dawning on the Labour movement. :bulb:

mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bu … ee-1753678

Twoninety88:

Harry Monk:

Saaamon:
Brits wont work on farms picking,

I’m sure they would, if the work paid enough for them to live in a farm labourers cottage as it did in the Victorian era. :wink:

Most farm workers were living in tied cottages, hell, we were in a tied cottage due to dads farm work right up untill 1967.

For those not familiar with tied accommodation, it was just that. The accommodation came , and went, with the job.

Just as every other type of accomodation does.No job,or low paying job,no money,or not enough money,to pay the mortgage or the rent.In which case it’s then just a choice of reliance on housing benefit and being provided with ‘accomodation’ as the local authority sees fit.

“Twoninety88”

Most farm workers were living in tied cottages, hell, we were in a tied cottage due to dads farm work right up untill 1967.

For those not familiar with tied accommodation, it was just that. The accommodation came , and went, with the job.

The present occupier of that cottage will still be living in tied accommodation, it’s just that nowadays he will be tied to the banker rather than the farmer.