Do you think corvid 19 will spell the end of the EU?
I personally do. It’s so obvious how open borders is not a good idea now.
Also when the great recession starts will countries like Germany and Netherlands be happy bailing out countries like Italy or Greece or Ireland etc?
No, considering the vast amount of Europe has coped way better than us with this disaster. Us with our borders intact.
switchlogic:
No, considering the bar amount of Europe has coped way better than us with this disaster. Us with our borders intact.
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switchlogic:
No, considering the bar amount of Europe has coped way better than us with this disaster. Us with our borders intact.
ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographi … ncov-cases
Europe: 841 378 cases; the five countries reporting most cases are Spain (166 019) 17,700 deaths population 47 million, Italy (156 363) 20,000 deaths population 60 million, Germany (123 016) 3,000 deaths population 83 million, France (95 403) 14,000 deaths population 67 million and United Kingdom (84 279) 11,300 deaths population 67 million.
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Bear in mind Italy and spain had their first cases a couple of weeks before we did and are now starting to show signs of things getting better. I have no idea about France or Germany’s situation.
I dont think we’re doing any better or worse than any other European country.
The one to really watch is Sweden, they’ve barely enforced any measures to prevent the spread.
The one thing I will say is: this has nothing to do with immigration, there are plenty of legitimate (right word?) travellers who can carry the virus.
adam277:
Do you think corvid 19 will spell the end of the EU?I personally do. It’s so obvious how open borders is not a good idea now.
Also when the great recession starts will countries like Germany and Netherlands be happy bailing out countries like Italy or Greece or Ireland etc?
As for the OP’s question, I think there are and will be a lot of tensions between members states and the EU commission over how the fallout from this pandemic will be handled, however I don’t think it will split up the EU, we might see some changes in how its run, but whether those will be good or bad for the ordinary citizens of the member states only time will tell.
But the fallout from this will create many internal tensions in the politics of the UK, the USA and maybe even China, with a possibility of democracy protests and the CCP either giving in slightly to appease them or doubling down and crushing descent in a similar way they did in 1989.
switchlogic:
No, considering the bar amount of Europe has coped way better than us with this disaster.
While there should be many questions why our government took certain actions it did, comparing countries simply by headline figures could lead to false assumptions, there are many factors which need to be considered, population, urban population density, variations in demographics of age, health, maybe even ethnicity, to get a true picture from country to country.
Also many European countries have done there own thing, from total lockdowns with the army on the streets, to massive testing programs, or extreme border controls, even possibly the of heading towards a totalitarian state in one country, to, as it seems in Sweden, doing very little, rather than an EU led joint action plan.
switchlogic:
Us with our borders intact.
I believe our border controls were less severe than many EU member states.