The end of Schengen?

Could this be the start of border controls again?

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ravel.html

Maybe the worm is finally turning, maybe this is the first step in the return to the old style Europe with proper border controls, customs, individual country identities…maybe the end of the EU!!! :smiley: :smiley:

The Euro currency seems to be failing, countries are going bankrupt and looking for us, a non Euro using country to bail them out with huge handouts of our tax money (British pounds not Euro euro`s), the French have finally had a taste of their own medicine with regard to “refugees” entering their country illegally and the whole mess is slowly being revealed for (zb) up that it really is.

bullitt:
Maybe the worm is finally turning, maybe this is the first step in the return to the old style Europe with proper border controls, customs, individual country identities…maybe the end of the EU!!! :smiley: :smiley:

In your dreams. :stuck_out_tongue:

I think this temporary change will make very little difference to us, For several years before Schengen it was rare for us to show our passport at a border crossing between EU member states, with the exception of coming back into the UK.

Maybe in a few years we could see the return of the “queing on the stairs” again at Dover!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

A return to customs controls on the borders, imports in the morning and exports in the afternoon, papers in then off to the beach / bar / club until the morning!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

TOO right bullit,the weekends on the surfers beach at Praie de Guincho bear Cascais on the Estoril coast of Lisbon,some drivers would hand in the TIR papers too late to clear on a friday,then bob tail unit down to the beach,bbq out,the time waiting at the borders to clear each country was time to get a decent meal or a shower,shopping too.
I would park behind a shopping mall,to watch movies in english,at Cascais,safe parking with a patrol all night.Driving in europe has now gone to the dogs,some roads back then were dirt tracks or made out of sand,the old steel springs would snap a lot for a bouncy ride.

bullitt:
Maybe in a few years we could see the return of the “queing on the stairs” again at Dover!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

A return to customs controls on the borders, imports in the morning and exports in the afternoon, papers in then off to the beach / bar / club until the morning!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

To quote a well know poster on here - “Good times!”

Any of you guys around when there were no mobile phones,we had to find a coin box booth,ring in when empty or find a cafe to receive a fax for 20 collections.
Could go for days without contact with the freight forwarder,only ring when had a problem or broken down,i would give them the cafe number to call me back.
i once fiited a whole new set of tyres on the unit,the guy at the warehouse said they get big trucks there all the time,the slope was ok going down,but coming up again,no chance,all the tyres got shredded,had to replace the lot of them,the lying Porky.

Coffeeholic:
To quote a well know poster on here - “Good times!”

■■■■ right, good times. :wink:

thats an interesting read.
i only started doing international work, after the borders came down, my 1st trip was mid 90’s, so i never experienced the “good ol days.” the 1st experience i had of queues at border crossings was only recently, whilst going into, and then getting out of russia, on a job i’m on. 15 hours, on the russian side, to get back into finland, and if i’m honest, definetly wasn’t to much fun.

judging by the article, it sounds like certain goverments want a “selective” border crossing system.

Coffeeholic:

bullitt:
Maybe in a few years we could see the return of the “queing on the stairs” again at Dover!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

A return to customs controls on the borders, imports in the morning and exports in the afternoon, papers in then off to the beach / bar / club until the morning!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

To quote a well know poster on here - “Good times!”

LOL yeah - maybe that’s why he is doing an OU law degree, maybe he knows more than he is letting on, maybe he will be specialising in getting truckers out of border jails - is that right Luke? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

brados:

Coffeeholic:

bullitt:
Maybe in a few years we could see the return of the “queing on the stairs” again at Dover!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

A return to customs controls on the borders, imports in the morning and exports in the afternoon, papers in then off to the beach / bar / club until the morning!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

To quote a well know poster on here - “Good times!”

LOL yeah - maybe that’s why he is doing an OU law degree, maybe he knows more than he is letting on, maybe he will be specialising in getting truckers out of border jails - is that right Luke? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Just to clarify I would not consider the borders going back up in Europe good times! I know I’m risking starting a big debate but I’m a big believer in the European project and it dismays me that the hardest country to get into is my own. There, I’ve said it…

I believe in going forwards not backwards. Should I press subm

switchlogic:
Just to clarify I would not consider the borders going back up in Europe good times! I know I’m risking starting a big debate but I’m a big believer in the European project and it dismays me that the hardest country to get into is my own. There, I’ve said it…

I believe in going forwards not backwards. Should I press subm

There you did it, actually I will support you in this, we have an open border system which means I can go and work anywhere I want in Europe, if I want to go back to work in Germany, France, Belgium or Holland I can, without any restrictions. No doubt the rednecks will jump in and remind me of all the immigrants, well the illegals will still come in, just like they have been since the late 50’s. It started before that with the Huguenots, followed by the Irish, and then the Jews, who were than followed by the ■■■■ refugees.

As a small boy working in a transport yard for pocket money I opened a container operated by the now defunct Meri Line which contained illegal immigrants from Yugoslavia or Albania, we let them go and the drivers probably gave them some money and a drink. This was around 1968, five years before we entered the Common Market. It was 1985 when Schengen was signed and if you lived in Bury, Bradford, Leicester, Derby or Nottingham, it was already a very cosmopolitan place.

Just to explain something before my post is attacked, the “Taliban” are from Pakistan & Afghanistan who are students of Islam. I have seen the term used to describe lorry drivers, none of whom bomb trains, buildings, buses, behead tourists or carry out honour killings. These acts are done by British born people after a traumatic holiday with the relatives.

We used to get delayed at borders, we, being British made the best of it, we drank tea, everyone knows they cannot make proper tea in Europe, so we drank beer, we drank so much tea and missed the next day with blokes in a similar state, we then spent the next day recovering with these same blokes and had other local people running about with our customs documents. The next time we met these blokes, they were stood on some stairs in Dover and we were all trying to outdo each other with tales of how much tea we could drink. we called them friends but many could only be recognised by the colour of the lorry or the gash in his forehead where he had argued with the local Mafia boss. Good Times indeed.

Now we recognise each other by the colour of the company uniform or the name on the back of the hi viz :laughing:

Open borders are fine in principle but the practical reality is that an open labour market only benefits business or a minority of mobile migrants. Yet again no one can offer any explanation as to why the ordinary working people of this country should happily accept a mass influx of cheap labour which impacts directly on their jobs and standards of living. Wherever that cheap labour comes from is neither here nor there.
Government of the people, by the people, for the people. Seems to me that last bit is there purely for effect.