crofter:
I believe another haulier was given a fpn the same day in aberdeenshire full load of fert in curtain not tied in was told internals were not rated so could not be used and every row had to be ratchet strapped. I know the company involved so def no its not a rumour. This job is becoming a joke 
There was more than 1 haulier issued with fpns, one company was from the Alford area and the other fromTarland, both had fert in curtains and were done for not using ratchet straps to secure the load.
Makes me wonder sometimes if trying to get my C&E back is worth it sometimes 
scottie0011:
crofter:
I believe another haulier was given a fpn the same day in aberdeenshire full load of fert in curtain not tied in was told internals were not rated so could not be used and every row had to be ratchet strapped. I know the company involved so def no its not a rumour. This job is becoming a joke
There was more than 1 haulier issued with fpns, one company was from the Alford area and the other fromTarland, both had fert in curtains and were done for not using ratchet straps to secure the load.
Makes me wonder sometimes if trying to get my C&E back is worth it sometimes
you can add 1 from fraserburgh and 1 turriff and 1 from tayside
This looks like the problem that Brit Pete has been banging on about for the last couple of years. It seems we do not know what we are doing and need “Industry Experts” to come along and show us.
ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safe … nes_en.pdf
Read the whole article but in particular pages; 45, 61, 114 & 144
It is recommended that road side checks are carried out using the same standards which are
used for training for drivers and other staff. Road side checks should be carried out by
specifically trained staff. All members of enforcement bodies concerned with traffic
supervision should receive at least training about the basic issues of cargo securing, as
mentioned above. Staff members carrying out dedicated supervision measures for heavy
goods vehicles should be trained as experts also in all the other fields mentioned above.
We are drowning in a sea of government excrement, not this government, all governments!
Excellent manual have put it in my favorites. It would be good to see all lorry drivers have a copy of this in every truck as a reference guide. If everyone is singing from the same sheet then may be we will see less shed loads on our roads.
today i have been to see one of the other guys who has been done for the same thing as my boss and he was told by the vosa offical that was there that the hooks on the trailers arent designed too secure loads but too only hold the sheets in place. he was also told that if any straps have a cut in them and is stopped and checked and this is found then that is also classed as insecure. if you have a curtainsider then heres the bad news, the internal securing straps are a waste of time unless each pallet is 500kg’s or less anything above that weight is classed as insecure as the rating on the strap is 500kg’s unless stated on the strap that the design weight is higher.
vosa and the police are enforcing this now and are going too get even more heavy with it all over the country.
i will add that the driver i spoke too is going to take it too court and have his say in front of the judge but he suspects that he’ll lose but as he said he gotta try
this is where this nonsense all stems from in this document dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicle … hicles.pdf
scotstrucker:
today i have been to see one of the other guys who has been done for the same thing as my boss and he was told by the vosa offical that was there that the hooks on the trailers arent designed too secure loads but too only hold the sheets in place. he was also told that if any straps have a cut in them and is stopped and checked and this is found then that is also classed as insecure. if you have a curtainsider then heres the bad news, the internal securing straps are a waste of time unless each pallet is 500kg’s or less anything above that weight is classed as insecure as the rating on the strap is 500kg’s unless stated on the strap that the design weight is higher. vosa and the police are enforcing this now and are going too get even more heavy with it all over the country.
i will add that the driver i spoke too is going to take it too court and have his say in front of the judge but he suspects that he’ll lose but as he said he gotta try
this is where this nonsense all stems from in this document dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicle … hicles.pdf
Surely usual curtain strap spacing would give 2 straps per pallet? To state the obvious 2 x 500kgs = 1 tonne.
Money grabbing sons of dogs, the country has’nt got a pot to ■■■■ in so its ■■■■ the road haulier as per usual.
Fly sheet
If you look through the sticky s in the Euro forum there are sites posted there also
helpful links forum have a few , unfortunately folks, those who have been over the water
have known about this and here in Germany they are hot at load lashing , your trailer needs to have a certificate showing what the sides of the trailer can take the front end is normally
5tn and above meaning 40% of your load with the sides AND REAR END ALSO HAVING SET WEIGHTS
limits , you need to use ANTI SKID MATTING and properly also filling out the gaps and
using the ratchet straps correctly,the fines ARE ALSO ACCOMPANIED by the points a minimum of
3 per offence are given , and these get put on your account in Flensburg Germany…
scotstrucker:
scottie0011:
crofter:
I believe another haulier was given a fpn the same day in aberdeenshire full load of fert in curtain not tied in was told internals were not rated so could not be used and every row had to be ratchet strapped. I know the company involved so def no its not a rumour. This job is becoming a joke
There was more than 1 haulier issued with fpns, one company was from the Alford area and the other fromTarland, both had fert in curtains and were done for not using ratchet straps to secure the load.
Makes me wonder sometimes if trying to get my C&E back is worth it sometimes
you can add 1 from fraserburgh and 1 turriff and 1 from tayside
the alford one i belive it were young dawson himsel
and i heard r&n cessfords from montrose as well as eric scott from strichen had drivers done aswell
farmer:
scotstrucker:
scottie0011:
crofter:
I believe another haulier was given a fpn the same day in aberdeenshire full load of fert in curtain not tied in was told internals were not rated so could not be used and every row had to be ratchet strapped. I know the company involved so def no its not a rumour. This job is becoming a joke
There was more than 1 haulier issued with fpns, one company was from the Alford area and the other fromTarland, both had fert in curtains and were done for not using ratchet straps to secure the load.
Makes me wonder sometimes if trying to get my C&E back is worth it sometimes
you can add 1 from fraserburgh and 1 turriff and 1 from tayside
it were young dawson himsel
the alford one i belive it were young dawson himsel
and i heard r&n cessfords from montrose as well as eric scott from strichen had drivers done aswell
i’m not going to confirm or deny if it is the names mentioned by farmer as they are going too take it too court + it aint fair too put names in a public forum without there consent and it being in court neil
On Monday I was doing a stint of vanning in the Bridge of Don and after fininshing my run at lunchtime I made my way to the best burger van in the area, which just so happens to be outside the local VOSA test station.
While waiting for my cheeseburger, I had a look in at the VOSA yard and noticed no less than 2 police cars parked outside the office. Also noticed a clapped out Transit pick up (somebody called it a “pikeymobile”) sitting in the HGV test reverse area. Beside it was a curtainside artic that was displaying an orange plate and maybe a wee bit on the heavy side.
Got talking to Burger Queen (yes, her grub is superb) and she said that this kind of thing has been going on for a while now, much more so than at the time you took your Class 1 (a few months back).
While I was waiting, I noticed a pair of VOSA henchmen giving the artic a full going over. I was nearly finished my dinner when they finally got round to opening the back door to reveal a load that seemed to consist of dry IBCs of fertiliser - I assumed so because of the ADR plate. Was not able to see how the load was restrained because I had to go before the curtains were opened. But IMO if I were carrying this load, I would have strapped the last two rows of bags, because there would have been very little risk of this kind of load cowping out through the curtain if it was jammed in properly.
Going by what I saw, I feel that if this driver was given a FPN for this and this alone, then he would have been very harshly judged.
Sad to say, I’m glad I’m not in the game full time at the moment because if I was getting done over the heads of something like this I’d be sickened off the game for life.
scotstrucker:
farmer:
scotstrucker:
scottie0011:
crofter:
I believe another haulier was given a fpn the same day in aberdeenshire full load of fert in curtain not tied in was told internals were not rated so could not be used and every row had to be ratchet strapped. I know the company involved so def no its not a rumour. This job is becoming a joke
There was more than 1 haulier issued with fpns, one company was from the Alford area and the other fromTarland, both had fert in curtains and were done for not using ratchet straps to secure the load.
Makes me wonder sometimes if trying to get my C&E back is worth it sometimes
you can add 1 from fraserburgh and 1 turriff and 1 from tayside
it were young dawson himsel
the alford one i belive it were young dawson himsel
and i heard r&n cessfords from montrose as well as eric scott from strichen had drivers done aswell
i’m not going to confirm or deny if it is the names mentioned by farmer as they are going too take it too court + it aint fair too put names in a public forum without there consent and it being in court neil
For someone with local knowledge of the Aberdeen/Aberdeenshire area, the Alford case didn’t take much working out, at least as far as the company goes.
On the other hand I would never have sussed who the Tayside case was without the above info.
As far as the Broch case goes, I must admit that my radar didn’t quite reach 8 miles down the road.
Have a very educated guess about the Tarland case, but will say no more for now…
Think I will be doing my best to try and keep a bulker on my back cant afford to have anymore points on my licence. Boss will also be needing to invest in some new straps.
Rscos1:
Think I will be doing my best to try and keep a bulker on my back cant afford to have anymore points on my licence. Boss will also be needing to invest in some new straps.
If I’m doing any Class 1/2 work in the BOD/Ellon/Peterhead/Fraserburgh areas, then I will also insist on there being enough straps on vehicle to restrain load the whole length of the motor.
Rscos1:
Think I will be doing my best to try and keep a bulker on my back cant afford to have anymore points on my licence. Boss will also be needing to invest in some new straps.
One or more of these operators need to take this one to court with some good legal representation. If anyone in the UK can make a load ultra secure while still looking tidy with happings it is an old hand from the North.
What next a bloke with a red flag in front?
Wheel Nut:
Rscos1:
Think I will be doing my best to try and keep a bulker on my back cant afford to have anymore points on my licence. Boss will also be needing to invest in some new straps.
One or more of these operators need to take this one to court with some good legal representation. If anyone in the UK can make a load ultra secure while still looking tidy with happings it is an old hand from the North.
What next a bloke with a red flag in front?
For ZB sake don’t give them ideas…
