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I think Mr Monk wants a new volvo fh16 750 but cant afford it.The guy is making money so why not have a good fleet with top spec trucks that look nice fair play to him.
Colin_scottish:
I think Mr Monk wants a new volvo fh16 750 but cant afford it.The guy is making money so why not have a good fleet with top spec trucks that look nice fair play to him.
I doubt that. I would think that Mr. Monk would rather invest his money in a pair of big Rickies… 
as others have said subby work tends to be on a p per mile or km and having done this for several years its hard to make it work out profitable, unless your best mates with the whole planning team.
we used to need to average around 2500 km a week to be in profit a good week we would hit 3500-4000. as with anything once company a has reduced the rate a bit passed it to company b who then take another bit then pass it to you your at the wrong end of the equation end of.
if your at the top of the chain cant see why you wouldn’t be able to run top spec trucks (something we tried when running over the water) top spec/big bhp less stress and costs.
newmercman:
They’ve been around for years and have always had big motors with fancy paint jobs.It’s not impossible to earn good money on boxes, but you won’t do it subbing for another haulier, or even direct from the shipping lines. You need to go direct to the forwarder that booked the container, say for example, a removal company and you can do things like this…
You need a 40’ hicube Hapag-Lloyd box to load from Cardiff, you call up Maritime or whoever and get a job with the box type you need for Bristol, tip it, restitute it at Freightliner Bristol and then do a lap of the yard and reload it, you get paid a crap rate from Maritime which will cover your costs and your rate to your customer is a large portion of cherries on top.
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Having had a short spell with Maritime, the likely scenario would be a 20ft into Bristol, restitute FL Cardiff, back to Bristol for your 40HC, on arrival, the job has been changed without telling you, because there is a shortage of HCs in Bristol, so, its another 20ft for loading scrap out of Swansea 
Your well planned route to millionaire status has been well and truly tripped up by the asshats @ MTL, you now have a very disgruntled customer in Cardiff wanting to know where their 40HC is ?
Subby work is less stressful, and is far better paid if you actually work hard and understand the job/customer/business model. 
That’s all very true but everything that has been said is based on deep-sea containers
Gangan:
Does he buy outright or lease? Leasing is far more tax efficient.
He buys outright
He has a V8 12 plate Scania for sale if anybody wants one 
alix776:
That’s all very true but everything that has been said is based on deep-sea containers
Very true, RKs staple is short sea ECS work 
Colin_scottish:
I think Mr Monk wants a new volvo fh16 750.
Only if he can stick the engine in a canal barge
Stanley Mitchell:
alix776:
That’s all very true but everything that has been said is based on deep-sea containersVery true, RKs staple is short sea ECS work
I’ve never had anything to do with boxes I take it short sea is boxes from Europe?
Is there much difference in rates and the work?
Usually faster turn around as most loads are palletised and drivers are insured to go in the back of the box to assist if required
He’s probably got a little willy.
kr79:
Stanley Mitchell:
alix776:
That’s all very true but everything that has been said is based on deep-sea containersVery true, RKs staple is short sea ECS work
I’ve never had anything to do with boxes I take it short sea is boxes from Europe?
Is there much difference in rates and the work?
As Alix says, its all palletised, so it comes off pretty quickly, unlike deepsea, which are handball [most of the time], although this seems to be changing, with a lot more on pallets nowadays, or is it just my boxes ?
Not sure about the rates, as Ive only ever done deepsea, and Im quite happy with those at the moment
Stanley, I only used Maritime as an example, I’m talking about spot hire, not using them as your main source of traffic and blagging the odd load elsewhere.
There is money to be made in all areas of transport, but you have to work at it, if you hand over control of your business to a spotty little planner then you won’t be running a fleet of big power lorries anytime soon.
newmercman:
Stanley, I only used Maritime as an example, I’m talking about spot hire, not using them as your main source of traffic and blagging the odd load elsewhere.There is money to be made in all areas of transport, but you have to work at it, if you hand over control of your business to a spotty little planner then you won’t be running a fleet of big power lorries anytime soon.
Fair comment, but they are all the same if you are ad-hoc, its the nature of the beast, they can all be awful even when you are a fully paid up subby
Its took me a few years to find the happy medium, adult planners [no Windsor knotted ties or spotty complextions], good work, good rates, quick payment and a mutually beneficial working relationship
Ive no interest in running blinged up megatrotterXXXliners either, I prefer to pay the drivers well and take whats left
I hear that!
Pallet wide containers 45ft or otherwise have palletised loads in them. The clue is in the name. The advantage Euro container work has over deep-sea container work is not just turn-around time though, it is that they are usually loaded back too. So you are nearly always on a round-trip rate. I recall that was the case out of Liverpool with the Irish service using similar containers and going to similar customers. You can make decent money.
RK does a lot of work out into P&G in Manchester, so a regular decent paying job can go a long way to paying the bills. Whether it is enough to justify running such high-spec trucks is open to debate. Is the buying and selling of trucks a similar set-up to Maritime? , and are the drivers self-employed?