Stop trying to ’ murder ’ our eyeballs and get over it ffs.
Eagerbeaver you should stop describing lorries as killing machines , its not a phrase a professional driver would use.
and if you think my examiner is correct by saying that i should know that there’s nobody in the vehicle in front try looking at cars from the rear tomorrow and see for yourself that its not that often possible . you cant see through the drivers seat/head rest and the side mirror often has a glare from the sun or its too dark in the vehicle
also hes sat in the passenger seat so how can he decide what can be seen the that cars right mirror.
the bloke scammed me out of my lgv licence … nuff said
That’s what they become in the hands of angry people who cant control themselves.
I dont think there’s any statistical or scientific evidence linking examiner abuse to fatal road accidents or it would be listed in the practical theory test questions
MuddaTruckka:
Yes i have the right to judge any human that gets paid to do something that affects my life no matter what their qualifications.
type the words ‘Driving Examiner jailed’ into google and you see page after page of convicted examiners with crimes ranging from taking bribes to murder
You can type ANY profession with the word ‘jailed’ and you’ll get loads of stories.
And no you haven’t ’ judged ’ anyone you’ve convicted and condemned. Climb off your pedestal and move on
MuddaTruckka:
and if you think my examiner is correct by saying that i should know that there’s nobody in the vehicle in front try looking at cars from the rear tomorrow and see for yourself that its not that often possible . you cant see through the drivers seat/head rest and the side mirror often has a glare from the sun or its too dark in the vehicle
also hes sat in the passenger seat so how can he decide what can be seen the that cars right mirror.
the bloke scammed me out of my lgv licence … nuff said
In a test, yes he can, if he believes that you could have reasonably foreseen the circumstances. Like it or not but its everyday stuff having to evaluate hazards day in day out on the road. In this instance you weren’t up to standard- simple as that.
He hasn’t scammed you out of anything - YOU failed the test. You don’t have to like it but you have to accept it. Just because you think you should pass means sweet FA, it’s the examiner you need to convince and all you’ve done is alienate yourself.
He’s is a very highly trained professional who decided you had not reached the minimum standard to pass- you ranting and thinking it’s your right to drive round for a bit and get passed is delusional and condescending.
Learn from it, every day look at cars and see what you use to help you decide if a hazard exists or are they truly parked up empty. You can see hell of a lot from a truck cab when you think about it
Bit blunt but I’ll make no apologies for it, what are you going to be like in the real harsh world if you do pass? It sounds as if your not ready and to take a test without further training would highly likely result in another fail- would that be the new trainers fault or the examiner again? Nope it would be yours ! Your the one driving below acceptable standards on a test no one else
You need to listen to the trainers valuable comments on this thread but somehow not sure you will?
MuddaTruckka
I’m well known for sometimes extreme comments. You should be banned from this site. You need help. Not driving help, life help.
Your sad pathetic rants won’t help even 1 new starter here, but you know that. You will never pass what is a fairly basic test because you have a problem best dealt with by a doctor that deals with madmen
No trainer on here would touch you with a bargepole not that you asked us to.
Get off this site where real people help each other
FOR GODS SAKE
Do we need a trucker on the road who blows up in such a way when they do not agree with something ?
That is what I read is happening in this situation - If wrong then I apologise
Here in Germany anyone undertaking hgv training must under go a psychological assessment to see if they possess the correct mentality to be let near a truck.
Nuff said.
Mudda - Take a chill pill (or 10) lad.
Do some fitness training or something…
As you’re doing yourself no favours at all with this attitude you’re displaying.
Have another go when you get your [zb] together…
I always attend a debrief after a fail so I can listen in to understand the examiners decision. I will not tolerate any abuse to the examiner, anyone who does will not comeback with me for a retest as one candidate found out a few years ago.
Paul 
Totally agree Paul. As 1 student found out around 10 years ago, I left him at the test centre.
There is absolutely no way a trainer can accept examiner abuse. The candidate may never meet him again. The test centre and examiner relationship is our livelihood.
When I found this forum, I was really impressed that trainers like yourselves were generous enough to give out tips, advice and general support for free. I am sure others would back me when I say as someone who is still newish to this game, thankyou very much!
It seems very strange to me that some people, cant appreciate the opportunity to learn. This chap I fear,does not have the required patience and to make matters worse, does not seem to accept responsibility. Not the kind of person I want next to me at 56 clicks in narrow lanes on the m/way!
i was pretty shocked reading this, i failed twice before passing however i agreed and got a lil more training in, a lot of companies will not just let some one take there truck on a test with out at least an assessment and a few hours training thats not only bad for there business but they also like to understand your driving style etc… remember they have to be able to trust you with there lorry
Except ive been driving 25 years without road rage and i dont take other drivers mistakes personally
I agree he made a mistake swearing at the examiner but give this guy some credit. Obviously he was very upset as it seems he failed due to uncommon situation. While examiner has his rights and during the test he the man in charge we all know how stressful a test can be for us. I believe in a daily commercial driving he would keep his cool. On the other hand I’d say the best option for now is go somewhere else and book extra training. I failed twice and it is devastating and people react differently. Getting licence could mean the earth for him. Don’t judge the book by its cover.
Might be a controversial view but I believe that when an examiner is comfortable and relaxed with a candidate’s driving then they may overlook an event which would normally be a fail. Conversely, if a little nervous about the driving, they may look for a reason to fail them. Maybe something to think about?
exit:
Might be a controversial view but I believe that when an examiner is comfortable and relaxed with a candidate’s driving then they may overlook an event which would normally be a fail. Conversely, if a little nervous about the driving, they may look for a reason to fail them. Maybe something to think about?
That might be right but it doesn’t help you move forward if they dont explain the real reason for your fail.
I’m very much in the same camp as previous posts.
The actual ‘fail’, you should have just taken on the chin - none of us are perfect, we make mistakes. If you believe you had a genuine grievance, there is a complaints procedure to follow.
As for the situation described, yes its a ball ache, but if you research advanced motorists skills, and emergency reponse drivers skills, you are taught to properly assess the traffic around you - giving you as much information as possibly as to the intentions of the driver/vehicle. Many people fail to use their indicators these days, but simply by clocking the driver, looking at what he is doing, and assessing the position of his vehicle, you can better judge if he is about to lunge out of/in lane. Next time maybe provide a narrative of what you’re doing/thinking - this could have turned a fail into a minor fault.
That said, shooting your mouth off dug you a hole. It points to the broader impression of your suitability (or otherwise) to drive professionally.
You have insulted and, one could say acted aggressively, someone who is assessing your driving skill - that is the safe operation of your vehicle. If you can’t control your temper, you compromise your ability to control the vehicle. Hypothetically, get distracted and angry in a road rage situation, it could lead to you not being fully aware of the traffic around you, whereby you do indeed end up in an accident; and possibly kill or injure someone.
I’ve known a few transport managers who have sack drivers for acting aggressively to other road users - don’t think your outburst should have just been shrugged off.
I’ve known a few transport managers who have sack drivers for acting aggressively to other road users - don’t think your outburst should have just been shrugged off.
The examiner fabricated my reason for failing and got some home truths , im satisfied i done the right thing even if i have to wait and pay to start again from scratch.
Does not make me an aggressive driver at all.
MuddaTruckka:
I’ve known a few transport managers who have sack drivers for acting aggressively to other road users - don’t think your outburst should have just been shrugged off.
The examiner fabricated my reason for failing and got some home truths , im satisfied i done the right thing even if i have to wait and pay to start again from scratch.
Does not make me an aggressive driver at all.
Why would the examiner fabricate reasons to fail you? Are you suggesting the examiner is trying to fix their Pass/Fail ratio, and maybe had more Pass’s that week, and needed to even it out by failing you?
Clearly (in your own mind) you believe that you were perfect on your test, and that is what is worrying, as you believe you know better than the examiner.
You also don’t seem to want to except that there was no excuse for swearing at the examiner, or don’t see, or understand that you lost any credibility when you swore at someone in a professional situation. If you hadn’t sworn, had raised your point of view in a constructive with the examiner, and then with your trainer, you may have had grounds to make an official complaint. But you destroyed that by swearing, have lost the support of your trainer, and are now faced with finding a new trainer at a high cost.
So tell me again how you were right and have done the right thing, as I don’t get it…