Dolph:
There is home grown terrorism, but I dare say its not home grown. Its muslim immigrants who refuse to integrate to British, Belgian, Bulgaria etc. way of life. They refuse to be like us, they simply want to move their country into Europe.
Its my biggest bug that people come from another country because of war or other reasons and then complain that they don’t like our way of life, “If you don’t like it bugger off”. Its seems some of them think they are in a position to change us, that’s when we end up with these hate preachers telling their flock to attack us.
Not being funny but if you country is now a monumental balls up of a civil war I don’t think you can say our current way of life wrong.
But today, something like “The Big Excursion” will be branded as undemocratic and fascist. If UK Gov say to all muslim in UK go to you heritage country of origin.
Firstly Fascism is just another form of Socialism.Which historically covered everything from Stalin’s and Tito’s mad ethnic integrationist ideas to Hitler’s version ranging from his actions in the Sudetenland to the final solution.
What you’ve described in the case of the ‘Big Excursion’ doesn’t fit any of those examples.
While what the Saudis and their appeasers like Merkel and Cameron etc are doing,together with our historic bonkers open door cheap labour immigration policy,is actually closer to the agendas of both Tito regarding an inter ethnic integrationist social engineering project.With the inevitable result of it ending up in a Sudetenland type eventual scenario regards Islamic etc self determination if not outright rule in Europe.Possibly,as in the case of Yugoslavia,most likely as part of the aftermath of the implosion of the EU Federation.On that note make no mistake,like Hitler,Merkel and her pro immigration allies are on a mission to destroy European civilisation as we know it.
mrginge:
Its my biggest bug that people come from another country because of war or other reasons and then complain that they don’t like our way of life, “If you don’t like it bugger off”. Its seems some of them think they are in a position to change us, that’s when we end up with these hate preachers telling their flock to attack us.
If Islam wanted to live our way of life they don’t need to come here to do it.The Middle East is rich enough to make its own way and re build its society along western lines.The reality is that the Saudi and possibly the Iranian extreme Islamic regimes are actually trying to strengthen their grip across the Middle East and trying to do in Europe what the Ottoman’s failed to do.In this case using a combination of Trojan Horse emigration tactics to create a much bigger version of Hitler’s Sudetenland agenda.All this unbelievably with the help of European governments bearing in mind the lessons of centuries of continuous previous attempts at the takeover of Europe by Jihadist forces.
Jesus wept, if i hear another commentator telling us how the borders are going to be tightened up blah blah i’m going to bloody explode.
The bloody stable door bolts were outlawed and binned about 20 years ago people, do keep up at the back.
In other news brilliant planning to import millions of a certain religion, then bomb the crap out of and kill thousands of their brethren via illegal wars and regime change by America and its poodles such as Bliar/Cameron (well chosen the British electorate), then allow thousands more to pour in unchecked like an invading force, what could possibly go wrong…
Juddian:
Jesus wept, if i hear another commentator telling us how the borders are going to be tightened up blah blah i’m going to bloody explode.
The bloody stable door bolts were outlawed and binned about 20 years ago people, do keep up at the back.
In other news brilliant planning to import millions of a certain religion, then bomb the crap out of and kill thousands of their brethren via illegal wars and regime change by America and its poodles such as Bliar/Cameron (well chosen the British electorate), then allow thousands more to pour in unchecked like an invading force, what could possibly go wrong…
At what point do our own armed forces who are ‘supposed’ to be there to defend the country call it all government conspiracy not zb up.
On that note how do the military chiefs explain going to war with Iraq firstly to defend the small majority Sunni Kuwait against aggression by the minority Sunni Iraq when they were all supposedly Sunni Arab ‘brothers’.Then another one to depose Saddam and help the Iranian backed Shias into power in Iraq.Bearing in mind the clear and well known ‘activeties’ and intentions of the Iranian Islamic revolution.Then helping Saudi’s obvious intentions,regarding the spread of Wahabbi Islam across the Middle East and now also Europe via Syria with the help of the Turks and all the other allied Wahabbi Sunni nutters including ISIS in deposing the moderate as it gets Assad and opening the Turkish border with Europe by letting Turkey join the EU.
IE if it looks like a Chinese,Communist plot to de stabilise the west economically and demographically,duck,having given it’s leaders like Bush,Obama and Cameron etc an offer they can’t refuse possibly in the form of a covered up 9/11 cruise missile attack on NYC and the Pentagon and quacks like one now in the form of Stasi stooge Merkel etc.Then it’s a reasonable bet that it might just be a duck.In which case now might be a good time for the military to do its job.Firstly in realising that we can’t trust the current western governments on these issues in that they’ve possibly been compromised and seem to be acting accordingly,in colluding with a Russian/Chinese/Middle Eastern Islamic alliance stitch up.
It’s a scary world we live in,these people go out with the intention to kill people and accept that they will also die in the process,this makes no opportunity to reason/negotiate with these vermin and maybe police everywhere should be armed and given “shoot to kill” clearance obviously after extensive training to recognise terrorists from the general public.
Imagine if what happened in Mumbai took place in a packed Trafford centre,realistically it’s gonna take at least 30 mins for the armed police to respond in numbers meanwhile these ■■■■■■■■ are killing everyone in sight,doesn’t bear thinking about.
Juddian:
I’d argue the point with you that the 7/7 bombers were British, quote]
Only on the basis of a definition of nationality based on jus soli.On that note, assuming a definition based on jus sanguinis,no they aren’t ‘British’ at all.
and…in words that thickos like me can understand…just because a dog is born in a stable,dont make it a horse…
Juddian:
I’d argue the point with you that the 7/7 bombers were British, quote]
Only on the basis of a definition of nationality based on jus soli.On that note, assuming a definition based on jus sanguinis,no they aren’t ‘British’ at all.
and…in words that thickos like me can understand…just because a dog is born in a stable,dont make it a horse…
Or to put it another way also the reason why Cliff Richard had the starring role in this.
Let’s just say that it can’t be done with regard to the ‘human rights’ act or by viewing the idea of the mass deportation/repatriation,of an alien hostile often savage culture,as ‘racist’.Nor the double standard of rightly doing whatever it took to destroy ■■■■ Germany but the total opposite in the case of the extremist Islamist ideologies of Iran and Saudi.
On that note which side is our pathetic Islamist appeasing government actually on.
The way I read it was just more of the same old Socialist cause of the problem calling the solution,in the form of Nationalism,so called ‘right wing’.Although obviously no explanation as to what’s so supposedly good for the working class in importing the Islamic culture in mass into Europe.
Karl:
You reap what you sew. You can’t go running around the world bombing other people’s lands and expect them to thank you for it.
You won’t learn.
Which would obviously be an admission that the problem is an invasion based on the revenge motive and/or that being born here doesn’t define national identity or loyalty. On that note why should we appease the savage,effectively as bad as the nazis,Iranian Revolutionary and Saudi Wahabbi nutter zb Islamic cultures for fear of what their sympathisers here think or do.When the answer is clear don’t let them in and if those that are here don’t like it and/or don’t support our values then zb off back home.Bearing in mind that IS’s agenda obviously isn’t about revenge for us kicking Saddam out of Kuwait for example.
Ah yes Saddam, one time friend and aly, who had nothing to do with 9/11. I wonder where he hid all those weapons of mass destruction in the end?
Values? What values or morals have the English/British ever had? It’s a bit rich for us westerners to look down upon them and treat a whole religion as some sort of ‘evil’.
For some reason you love war as a people it seems. Maybe it gives you’re weapon’s companies some business?
It’s just as well really, as you’re going to be fighting for a very, very long time with this current way of thinking. And you won’t ‘win’.
