Another incident giving lorry drivera a bad name…
Yeah seen it in one if the nationals online. Reading some if tge comments was eye opening, mostly (and correctly) critical of the large van (I refuse to call a rigid a HGV 
let alone a 7.5t one) driver but tge odd one suggesting the horse shouldn’t have been on the road and should be in a field 
If like me you can’t get the video to load on the CornwallLive site try this link.
metro.co.uk/2022/10/12/horse-fr … -17550881/
That young lady was very lucky not to be seriously hurt, admittedly she should not have been riding in the middle of the road but there’s no excuse that I can see for the HGV driver not slowing down.
As someone who is used to passing horses, in lanes or on farms, I’ll say this…
Horses should not be ridden on major roads. They are not rational, don’t have brakes, and no steering. They don’t require insurance, despite being able to cause serious damage. There’s no way of identifying a horse, as it has no legal mark like a number plate. There is no legal requirement to be trained, nor a required standard of control of a horse, nor a minimum age to take one out on the road.
If I was to use a vehicle on the road with defective steering, so I could not control its movement , I would be locked up.
If I was to take my car out, without insurance, I would be locked up.
If I was to drive my car or bike, recklessly, and expecting everybody else to pussyfoot around me, I would be locked up.
On minor roads, in the countryside, you have to accept that some degree of leeway is required. Cattle needs to move, tractors trundle along, and yes, even horses are moved about. But on major roads, no, there is no place for horses, ridden by children, not in proper control of a horse.
BTW, you are always “millimeters from death” on a horse. A bit like riding a bike. Every biker knows and accepts the risks…
As for the mum giving it the " that could be your child or relative"… no, it couldn’t. They don’t ride horses on the main road…
Until we see the tacho analysis, there is no way of knowing wether the driver did, or did not, slow down, or even how fast he was going.
Appalling driving. Driver apparently didn’t even stop either. This bloke needs his HGV licence revoking.
A lot of drivers don’t like horses being on the road, but… she’s entitled to be there, that’s the bottom line. And, the Highway Code updates are (in the most part) all about Vulnerable Road Users. The girl is lucky not to be seriously hurt, but that driver is lucky that she wasn’t too, otherwise he’d be looking at a stretch of porridge. Company would be looking at a PI too.
It loads eventually but it takes ages
the nodding donkey:
Until we see the tacho analysis, there is no way of knowing wether the driver did, or did not, slow down, or even how fast he was going.
Did you not watch the video?
the nodding donkey:
As someone who is used to passing horses, in lanes or on farms, I’ll say this…Horses should not be ridden on major roads. They are not rational, don’t have brakes, and no steering. They don’t require insurance, despite being able to cause serious damage. There’s no way of identifying a horse, as it has no legal mark like a number plate. There is no legal requirement to be trained, nor a required standard of control of a horse, nor a minimum age to take one out on the road.
If I was to use a vehicle on the road with defective steering, so I could not control its movement , I would be locked up.
If I was to take my car out, without insurance, I would be locked up.
If I was to drive my car or bike, recklessly, and expecting everybody else to pussyfoot around me, I would be locked up.On minor roads, in the countryside, you have to accept that some degree of leeway is required. Cattle needs to move, tractors trundle along, and yes, even horses are moved about. But on major roads, no, there is no place for horses, ridden by children, not in proper control of a horse.
BTW, you are always “millimeters from death” on a horse. A bit like riding a bike. Every biker knows and accepts the risks…
As for the mum giving it the " that could be your child or relative"… no, it couldn’t. They don’t ride horses on the main road…
Until we see the tacho analysis, there is no way of knowing wether the driver did, or did not, slow down, or even how fast he was going.
Totally agree the truck was coming from the other side of the road no contest, if it was overtaking them then yes he was wrong
The rider could not control the horse as she was a child in charge of a beast on a public road and that’s what sticks out a mile
She should be thankful she’s still alive due to not taking due care and control
Where this took place is approximately a mile from my house.
The road is a 40mph limit, but you’ll do well to find anyone keeping to the limit. It’s a race track up there.
Appalling driving. Possibly a GIST rigid out of M&S at Carlton? They use it as a rat run to the M1
the nodding donkey:
Until we see the tacho analysis, there is no way of knowing wether the driver did, or did not, slow down, or even how fast he was going.
It may take tachograph Analisys to determine whether or not the driver slowed down, but it does not take tachograph analysis to see that the driver did not slow down anywhere near enough, if at-all.
Harry Monk:
the nodding donkey:
Until we see the tacho analysis, there is no way of knowing wether the driver did, or did not, slow down, or even how fast he was going.Did you not watch the video?
Yes, I did.
At the start, the person in the car indicates that somethings isn’t right already, “something kicking off” and asking if “she was in the middle of the road”… sounds like the horse was already out off control. The traffic is busy, but fairly slow. Cars have to wait, before going around the horses. Showing that the horses are a hindrance. Yes, they are allowed to be there. But should they? (I accept that that is a debate for another day, and a moot point in this instance).
Yes, the truck could have slowed down, and certainly should have stopped after the collision, he’s certainly not without blame. But it boils my urine when people automatically take the side of a child that is unable the control an animal, on a road that it really should not be on.
Looks to me like two children out riding on a main road, what could possibly go wrong. Who was in charge of the riders. We know that pedestrians and riders of horses or bicycles use the road by right, so dont need a licence. There were no heroes in the video.
tachograph:
the nodding donkey:
Until we see the tacho analysis, there is no way of knowing wether the driver did, or did not, slow down, or even how fast he was going.It may take tachograph Analisys to determine whether or not the driver slowed down, but it does not take tachograph analysis to see that the driver did not slow down anywhere near enough, if at-all.
That hazard was a stop the truck at 00.20 until they’ve passed, not a slow down situation.
Forget about all the horse arguments of whether it should or shouldn’t be there. The rigid driver is a tool and how anyone can defend that driving is beyond me. There is a major hazard and none or next to no speed reduction was used to mitigate the hazard.
I always slow right down for horses because they are unpredictable and can easily be spooked, I pass them slow and wide whatever I’m driving, even more so in a massive HGV.
That kind of hazard perception lack of awareness could be the same for any of the hazards we encounter on a daily basis, kids or old people at the side of the road or trying to cross the road etc
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the nodding donkey:
Harry Monk:
the nodding donkey:
Until we see the tacho analysis, there is no way of knowing wether the driver did, or did not, slow down, or even how fast he was going.Did you not watch the video?
Yes, I did.
At the start, the person in the car indicates that somethings isn’t right already, “something kicking off” and asking if “she was in the middle of the road”… sounds like the horse was already out off control. The traffic is busy, but fairly slow. Cars have to wait, before going around the horses. Showing that the horses are a hindrance. Yes, they are allowed to be there. But should they? (I accept that that is a debate for another day, and a moot point in this instance).
Yes, the truck could have slowed down, and certainly should have stopped after the collision, he’s certainly not without blame. But it boils my urine when people automatically take the side of a child that is unable the control an animal, on a road that it really should not be on.
That rigid should have slowed down a lot, it didn’t whether the hazard was a horse or not is pretty irrelevant.
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Why not take it a step further? A kid crossing a road bit not at a crossing? Well he/she shouldn’t be there so keta just floor it straight through them? That seems to be the assertion by some?
From time dot its always been a case of slowing down for horses at least in my book anyway. Whether being ridden by “a child” or an adult it’s irrelevant. And the fact that it’s Neen picked up that tge horse may have been misbehaving prior to the clip is EVEN MORE of embarrassment because there’s a situation developing there that may require some emergency movements and STILL the van driver did absolutely nothing.
Seriously cannot believe some think it’s OK and are rationalising the van drivers lack of clear common sense and courtesy.
I almost hit a horse once. Would of been full frontal at about 40mph.
Was going down a country lane no visibility at all to the sides as all trees. Out of nowhere a horse came out of some side passage, it jumped some fence and ran down the road.
I managed to stop before hitting it but if I was going like 5mph faster it would not of been pretty lol.
When I stopped a load of people went chasing after it out of this tiny side passage lol. I suspect it bolted from its pen.
As for the video. The driver clearly needs to lose his licence.
One thing is for sure, that lorry is not being driven by a professional driver, I hope they can trace him and give him the punishment he deserves.
We have a TruckNet member whos wife died when she was thrown from a horse which had been spooked by a car, maybe five years ago? Horses are permitted to be ridden on roads and the fact that a driver may be irritated by being mildly inconvenienced by this does not give them the right to drive dangerously. Anyone who doesn’t know that horses should be passed slowly and cautiously doesn’t even meet the standard required to drive a car, let alone an HGV.