Looking at the revenue website the night out allowance tax free is a maximum of £29.85.
Then you have to look at EIM66130 etc.etc.
Company can pay up to 75% 0f this tax free etc.etc.
Get’s confusing,so the question is to you accountants out there how much can the company pay us tax free nightout money/meal money per day?
Reason for asking is our lot have just decided to stop paying services parking with meal voucher.
a couple of firms i have worked for have done this. the reason we were given is that its a tax issue and that the voucher should be taxed. 1 firm said that the taxman had even fined him for vouchers paid for in the past.
75% of £29.85 = £22.38 but usually its 23 quid
though that night out allowence shouldnt cover parking,its money for you being out overnight.
so you should get ur allowence + parking, and if that includes meals then so be it.they cant expect you to pay prices for food at serives stations even though it is really bad.
I get £20 plus any money spent on parking and so on tax free in my wages each week
IIRC the max is £29.85 if you have a day cab or 75% if your in a sleeper, not sure about meal allowance. Place I’ve worked for just deduct the voucher value from your parking expenses claim, flippin tightwads 
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Hasnt it been the same for the last 3000 years surely with inflation taken in to account it should be bit more.
My understanding is…If your employer can justify a higher rate to the taxman he can pay you more…but it has to be agreed between him and the taxman first
Nomad
We get £24 , my bosses accountant says thats what your alowed before tax and if it goes up he pays it.
£20.50 + parking 
MY BOSS WILL PAY THE PARKING ASWELL IF YOU CAN STAND THE WHINING 
Night out allowance or subsistence is paid to the driver, to pay for at least 2 hot meals, laundry and bedding. It has nothing to do with parking someone elses vehicle.
A few 250 quid wheel clamp release fees may make the company change their mind about paying for lorry parking.
Wheel Nut:
Night out allowance or subsistence is paid to the driver, to pay for at least 2 hot meals, laundry and bedding. It has nothing to do with parking someone elses vehicle.A few 250 quid wheel clamp release fees may make the company change their mind about paying for lorry parking.
Two HOT meals.
This is [zb] England.
limeyphil:
Wheel Nut:
Night out allowance or subsistence is paid to the driver, to pay for at least 2 hot meals, laundry and bedding. It has nothing to do with parking someone elses vehicle.A few 250 quid wheel clamp release fees may make the company change their mind about paying for lorry parking.
Two HOT meals.
This is [zb] England.
I want me dinner and me breakfast if Im on a night out, or at least the means to get slaughtered in the bar 
The night out money is not a legal right as such.
According to the tax man you spending that money on accomodation. The reason its set so low as that is the amount that the tax man will accept without receipts.
Ie if you have to get hotels etc you have to provide recepts as they are above the amount set.
This is what our local taxman has told us, its basically turned a blind eye to by the tax man.
Expenses are to cover costs you have spent.
scottbrown:
The night out money is not a legal right as such.
According to the tax man you spending that money on accomodation. The reason its set so low as that is the amount that the tax man will accept without receipts.
Ie if you have to get hotels etc you have to provide recepts as they are above the amount set.This is what our local taxman has told us, its basically turned a blind eye to by the tax man.
Expenses are to cover costs you have spent.
your local tax man told you what he thought you wanted to hear. but he actually didn’t have a clue.
From the RHA:
Lorries with Sleeper Cabs
The onus is on the employer to satisfy himself that any amounts paid free of tax are no more than a reasonable reimbursement of the average allowable expenses of the driver whilst staying away from home and place of work overnight. The mere fact that a lorry has a sleeper cab does not prevent the employer paying an amount tax free up to the nationally agreed limit provided that he is satisfied that the driver did incur expenses on overnight accommodation and meals.
Where the employer knows that the driver uses the sleeper cab, he should pay free of tax only what represents a reasonable reimbursement of:
evening meal and breakfast
washing facilities
upkeep of bedding in the cab
Provided there is documentary evidence available to show that the employee concerned spent the night away from home and his normal place of employment, HMRC will accept that a payment of 75% of the nationally agreed figure does no more than reimburse the extra expense incurred when the driver uses the sleeper cab overnight. Where an employer wishes to make payments in excess of this amount without deducting tax he may do so provided he satisfies the conditions outlined above in (d)
The amounts of overnight subsistence negotiated and agreed by the Road Haulage Association with HMRC, effective from 1 January annually, are as follows:
2008 - £29.85 (sleeper cab rate is £22.39)
2007 - £28.62 (sleeper cab rate is £21.46)
2006 — £27.55 (sleeper cab rate is £20.66)
2005 - £26.90
2004 - £26.00
2003 - £25.15
2002 - £24.50
75% of the above figures should be used where drivers use sleeper cabs.
75% of £29.85 = £2238
These rates are negotiated with HMRC in January each year, and the new rates are published at: rha.net/public/adviceandinfo … ence.shtml
Well you all know my thoughts on this subject, so i wont repeat them, but heres a question relating to nights out.
at what time is being on duty ■■
We do a job out of trafford park, so we drop the trailer in their depot, and park across the road where we have to have the legal 9 hours off…so my nine hours start obviously when im parked (stationary) I normally have to get up 1 hr early, start the engine, put the kettle on, possibly the night heater. technically, i am on duty cos im behind the wheel, keys in the ignition etc ( a requirement (legal) to be able to breath test a drunk in charge driver )
So in reality i am only having 8 hours off.
The law will regard my tachograph as recording the legal amount of time rested, as i dont put the new disc in until i`m ready to depart my parking space.
What do you think ■■
Truckboy - It’s odd but quite legal
Bob. I can normally stretch my vehicle checks into a bacon buttie and a cup of tea.