Surely scrapping the tax disc is likely to mean more untaxed vehicles being used on the road isn’t it 
You could be right, I’m sure an article I read recently also said the funds raised through the road tax system is not used on improve the roads. Did I read that right?
global.
I bet it’s not any cheaper even though we don’t have to pay for the paper and postage of them
There said it would go up 5% but it could be paid by direct debit monthly so not sure if the 5% is if you pay by DD or 5% how ever you pay
Does this mean people won’t have to show mot and insurance.?
disgo:
Does this mean people won’t have to show mot and insurance.?
You haven’t needed to show an MOT or Insurance when renewing online for ages. It’s just checked against the relevant databases.
global:
You could be right, I’m sure an article I read recently also said the funds raised through the road tax system is not used on improve the roads. Did I read that right?
global.
You probably did read it right, it’s official name is “Vehicle Excise Duty” and as far as I’m aware it isn’t necessarily spent on roads or road repairs.
disgo:
Does this mean people won’t have to show mot and insurance.?
Nope, it will be the same as it is now, both MOT and insurance are on a government database and is checked electronically when you tax a vehicle on-line.
tachograph:
Surely scrapping the tax disc is likely to mean more untaxed vehicles being used on the road isn’t it
Should just scrap the tax full stop, end of problem.
They are also thinking of allowing monthly payments for a 5% fee
weeto:
tachograph:
Surely scrapping the tax disc is likely to mean more untaxed vehicles being used on the road isn’t itShould just scrap the tax full stop, end of problem.
I think it should be put into the fuel cost so the more the fuel used, the more the roads are used = the more you pay
Road repairs are paid for out of general taxation, part of which is made up of vehicle tax. The excise duty you pay is based on the vehicle emissions of your vehicle, the bigger the vehicle the more you pay usually. The thing now is that there are approximately 2 million cars on the roads that aren’t required to pay the tax, hybrids, electrics etc, but still require a disc, thereby taking money out of a system they don’t put into. Without wishing to ignite another cyclist debate its the reason they dont pay to use the roads,it’s one of the things drivers bang on about all the time, I will say it again, it’s a tax based on emissions. If its going to be axed I’m sure some faceless bean counter will be coming up with a more government friendly, and therefore driver unfriendly, system of paying through the nose.
I think you need some sort of physical record of whether the tax has been paid, for a start a reciept in case DVLA “get confused” and also in a situation are company was in recently, where we have a pick-up truck which is loaned to us, the management of tax, insurance, etc is looked after by a company many miles away. They forgot to tax it, the V11 seemed to get lost, because we could see a tax disc we where able to take it off the road and chase them up.
muckles:
I think you need some sort of physical record of whether the tax has been paid, for a start a reciept in case DVLA “get confused” and also in a situation are company was in recently, where we have a pick-up truck which is loaned to us, the management of tax, insurance, etc is looked after by a company many miles away. They forgot to tax it, the V11 seemed to get lost, because we could see a tax disc we where able to take it off the road and chase them up.
Conformation email, bank / credit card statement
ROG:
They are also thinking of allowing monthly payments for a 5% fee
That’s not too bad considering the amount they charge you more then that to buy 6 instead of 12 months.
stevieboy308:
muckles:
I think you need some sort of physical record of whether the tax has been paid, for a start a reciept in case DVLA “get confused” and also in a situation are company was in recently, where we have a pick-up truck which is loaned to us, the management of tax, insurance, etc is looked after by a company many miles away. They forgot to tax it, the V11 seemed to get lost, because we could see a tax disc we where able to take it off the road and chase them up.Conformation email, bank / credit card statement
You’ll certainly get a recite for payment as you do now if you pay on-line, but that doesn’t help other people who may use the vehicle to know whether or not the vehicle is currently taxed.
In the comments on the BBC article one person reckons he’s a car valeter who regularly drives other peoples cars as part of his job, at the moment he takes the attitude “no disc no drive”, but when discs are scrapped he’ll have no way of checking.
stevieboy308:
muckles:
I think you need some sort of physical record of whether the tax has been paid, for a start a reciept in case DVLA “get confused” and also in a situation are company was in recently, where we have a pick-up truck which is loaned to us, the management of tax, insurance, etc is looked after by a company many miles away. They forgot to tax it, the V11 seemed to get lost, because we could see a tax disc we where able to take it off the road and chase them up.Conformation email, bank / credit card statement
That’s ok for the person who pays the tax, but if as in our case, its done by somebody many miles away who looks after many vehicle and for what ever reason it gets overlooked, such as the V11 disappearing somewhere in the system, of if they email the reminder and that gets lost, both postal and email system are not unknown for things to disappearing. A visual check means that it can be reported and action taken, instead of the company getting a fine and the agro of trying to prove it might have been DVLA’s fault. I’d head they where thinking of emailing you a disc which you can print off, like thy are doing with the TV licence. That would be fine for us infact could be easier as the tax disc doesn’t have to be posted from the office to us.
One of my checks before driving any vehicle that did not belong to me was for a valid tax disc, if it was not there I would defect the vehicle.
Same when I collected a hire car or van.
They will have to change the law which makes the driver responsible for ensuring the vehicle is road legal if he is unable to check for a valid tax disc.
I thought the same. Giving people an option to print a disc - make it square though please - would help with company vehicles.
As an agency driver, I always included the tax disc in the inspection. I know that the driver isn’t liable, but I didn’t want to get stopped for it, and I assumed that if there was no tax, there would likely be other problems too, like no MOT.
ROG:
I think it should be put into the fuel cost so the more the fuel used, the more the roads are used = the more you pay
This is what was suggested some years ago,and it does make sense.Drivers can avoid road tax,but they can’t avoid fuel tax.
By this method you only pay while you are driving,and it will probably mean 10p on the price of a litre of fuel to cover the lost tax from VED,and the bigger the “Gas guzzler” you drive,the more you pay.
Mind you,some folk will still complain.
I imagine that some sort of annual disc would be issued just to prove you have MoT and insurance.
tachograph:
stevieboy308:
muckles:
I think you need some sort of physical record of whether the tax has been paid, for a start a reciept in case DVLA “get confused” and also in a situation are company was in recently, where we have a pick-up truck which is loaned to us, the management of tax, insurance, etc is looked after by a company many miles away. They forgot to tax it, the V11 seemed to get lost, because we could see a tax disc we where able to take it off the road and chase them up.Conformation email, bank / credit card statement
You’ll certainly get a recite for payment as you do now if you pay on-line, but that doesn’t help other people who may use the vehicle to know whether or not the vehicle is currently taxed.
In the comments on the BBC article one person reckons he’s a car valeter who regularly drives other peoples cars as part of his job, at the moment he takes the attitude “no disc no drive”, but when discs are scrapped he’ll have no way of checking.
Yeah, fair enough, I never thought of it like that!