Another 750 jobs to go at the steel works. Surely affect a lotof hauliers too.
Looks like the UK steel industry is going the way of the coal industry.
It all falls in to Camorons plan to decimate our heritage and our industrial might
Yet they can find 60 million quid to build a garden bridge over the Thames in London
There will be nothing produced in this country before long. All produced in third world countries where labour is cheap and no health and safety.
The UK will just be a retail park.
gazsa401:
It all falls in to Camorons plan to decimate our heritage and our industrial might
Yet they can find 60 million quid to build a garden bridge over the Thames in London
To be fair the protectionist trade policy that it would take to sort the problem has never been on the Labour Party manifesto either.While the unions here call Le Pen and the FN,who have it on their’s,nazis. 
Dave the Renegade:
There will be nothing produced in this country before long. All produced in third world countries where labour is cheap and no health and safety.
The UK will just be a retail park.
Unemployed workers can’t afford imported goods at any price especially when there’s not enough taxes being paid to provide unemployment and low wage in work benefits. 
Not surprised, the UK can’t compete on productivity when it comes to the workforce, nor on price.
No loss really, why should we tax payers subsidise an industry with just a few thousand employees, they are getting hand outs left right and centre.
Shut the lot. Heavy industry has no place here if it can’t stand on it’s own two feet.
Listening to radio 2 going over the Woodhead pass today, and they said that Corby and Hartlepool will end up having job losses too.
Too much dumping of cheap Chinese steel. Cosying up to China maybe isn’t as great as Cameron first thought.
eagerbeaver:
Listening to radio 2 going over the Woodhead pass today, and they said that Corby and Hartlepool will end up having job losses too.Too much dumping of cheap Chinese steel. Cosying up to China maybe isn’t as great as Cameron first thought.
Why not, it means that the end product that we as consumers are buying is cheaper, efficiencies of markets, if you can’t compete you go out of business. The world is now an awfully small place, all the better for us consumers.
All that BS about protecting an industry, giving them tax breaks, giving them cheap energy, giving them discounts on their rates, we, collectively are paying for that and I don’t want to, and neither do the majority, hence it is going down the drains, finally.
We kept the coal industry going for way too long and we collectively paid for it.
wheelnutt:
Not surprised, the UK can’t compete on productivity when it comes to the workforce, nor on price.Shut the lot. Heavy industry has no place here if it can’t stand on it’s own two feet.
I’m guessing that you and all the other Con voters will want to be exempt from the deflationary economic environment it will take to do it to bring wages and prices here into line with those in India and China.
While your idea won’t look so good if we find ourselves in a war with China and its Asian allies.
Problem is Wheelnutt, the Chinese government is heavily subsidising their steel production, which is apparently against international trading law’s, as obviously we cannot possibly match their price.
wheelnutt:
eagerbeaver:
Listening to radio 2 going over the Woodhead pass today, and they said that Corby and Hartlepool will end up having job losses too.Too much dumping of cheap Chinese steel. Cosying up to China maybe isn’t as great as Cameron first thought.
Why not, it means that the end product that we as consumers are buying is cheaper, efficiencies of markets, if you can’t compete you go out of business.
Great idea we lose another important strategic industry to predatory pricing based on cheap slave labour.
On that note you seem to be forgetting that western consumers all rely on western type incomes to buy the cheap imported goods.How are you going to maintain sales if you want wages reduced to third world levels across the board.
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
eagerbeaver:
Listening to radio 2 going over the Woodhead pass today, and they said that Corby and Hartlepool will end up having job losses too.Too much dumping of cheap Chinese steel. Cosying up to China maybe isn’t as great as Cameron first thought.
Why not, it means that the end product that we as consumers are buying is cheaper, efficiencies of markets, if you can’t compete you go out of business.
Great idea we lose another important strategic industry to predatory pricing based on cheap slave labour.
On that note you seem to be forgetting that western consumers all rely on western type incomes to buy the cheap imported goods.How are you going to maintain sales if you want wages reduced to third world levels across the board.
Who says I want wages reduced to third world levels, wages in the UK are rising, what are you smoking?
I just don’t want my tax money going to subsidising an industry that should have shut down years ago.
There is nothing strategic about Port Talbot, run of the mill bog standard steel that we can buy elsewhere cheaper.
Stop spouting that Labour/Corbyn BS.
wheelnutt:
We kept the coal industry going for way too long and we collectively paid for it.
And now we’re a net importer of energy with the loss to the economy of the workforce’s wages replaced by a net burden of lower wage employment if not benefits dependency.Fordist economics obviously isn’t your strong point.
When the imported steel from China starts to rust and show flaws, the the crap will hit the fan, and the blame game will start.
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
We kept the coal industry going for way too long and we collectively paid for it.And now we’re a net importer of energy with the loss to the economy of the workforce’s wages replaced by a net burden of lower wage employment if not benefits dependency.Fordist economics obviously isn’t your strong point.
We are an importer of CHEAPER coal and with the benefits cuts we are better of, a lot cheaper paying of a few unemployed steel and coal workers for a few years then subsidising whole industries.
Bring on shale, start drilling in all these places and we are set for a few hundred years. Look at what it has done to the US, they are now an energy exporter and the cost to the consumer has dropped by 70%, now that is progress, not this subsidising of heavy industry for the benefit of a few hundred union workers and some local Labour MP’s
Dave the Renegade:
When the imported steel from China starts to rust and show flaws, the the crap will hit the fan, and the blame game will start.
Yeah blame the quality control guys, making steel isn’t rocket science, humans have been doing it for donkeys years.
Labour intensive, heavily unionised, heavily subsidised manufacturing of raw materials have no future in a country like ours.
Good riddance.
wheelnutt:
Who says I want wages reduced to third world levels, wages in the UK are rising, what are you smoking?I just don’t want my tax money going to subsidising an industry that should have shut down years ago.
There is nothing strategic about Port Talbot, run of the mill bog standard steel that we can buy elsewhere cheaper.
Stop spouting that Labour/Corbyn BS.
You’re the one who’s saying if UK PLC can’t compete with India and China it will have to go out of business.
Wages are only ‘rising’ if anyone believes Camoron’s bs.
As for Corbyn no that Socialist zb would view me as a protectionist Nationalist ■■■■ just like he does Le Pen.
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
Who says I want wages reduced to third world levels, wages in the UK are rising, what are you smoking?I just don’t want my tax money going to subsidising an industry that should have shut down years ago.
There is nothing strategic about Port Talbot, run of the mill bog standard steel that we can buy elsewhere cheaper.
Stop spouting that Labour/Corbyn BS.
You’re the one who’s saying if UK PLC can’t compete with India and China it will have to go out of business.
Wages are only ‘rising’ if anyone believes Camoron’s bs.
As for Corbyn no that Socialist zb would view me as a protectionist Nationalist ■■■■ just like he does Le Pen.
We can’t compete with India and China on raw materials and basic low tech manufacturing, why even try. Our focus should be on what we ARE good at, Aerospace, engineering, IT, services, finance, automotive, design etc. That is where we can add value and create good paying jobs, not in areas where we are competing with third world countries, there is no point, especially if we the tax payers are footing the bill.
Our government subsidising small inefficient industries is a waste of money, that money can be better spend in creating jobs that pay well, jobs and industries that can deliver growth and that don’t depend on competing with third world countries on price.
The 60’s are gone, we can’t compete in the “old” industries anymore, let it go, shut it down and move on, the longer we hold on to it, the more it will cost and the less we focus on what we are good at.
Coal and steel isn’t it anymore, it has no future in this country. There are what, 5,000 people left in the steel industry? Shut it down, even if they live another 20-30 years, cheaper to pay them the benefits then subsidise a whole industry, plus we the consumers don’t have to buy their overpriced products anymore.
win-win for everyone, in a year we won’t remember those guys that lost their job now, we will notice the drop in prices on their products.
It will also stop the younger generation from even contemplating taking jobs in a dying industry, they can now focus on something better.
Can’t think of a single negative thing.
Shut it down, all of it.
wheelnutt:
We are an importer of CHEAPER coal and with the benefits cuts we are better of, a lot cheaper paying of a few unemployed steel and coal workers for a few years then subsidising whole industries.Bring on shale, start drilling in all these places and we are set for a few hundred years. Look at what it has done to the US, they are now an energy exporter and the cost to the consumer has dropped by 70%, now that is progress, not this subsidising of heavy industry for the benefit of a few hundred union workers and some local Labour MP’s
How is it supposedly cheaper when you’ve conveniently left out the net costs of unemployment by removing benefits because you’ve run out of tax revenues and/or indirect effects on the economy of lower wage employment.Let alone making us dependent on imported energy supplies.
As for cheaper fossil fuel energy your hero Camoron is supposedly telling us all we musn’t burn it anyway because the snivelling zb is another Global Warmist believer.On that note do really think that fracking reserves outweigh those of coal and can possibly be cheaper to the end user.
wheelnutt:
Dave the Renegade:
When the imported steel from China starts to rust and show flaws, the the crap will hit the fan, and the blame game will start.Yeah blame the quality control guys, making steel isn’t rocket science, humans have been doing it for donkeys years.
Labour intensive, heavily unionised, heavily subsidised manufacturing of raw materials have no future in a country like ours.
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Good riddance.
Cheap Chinese steel. You are OK in London where the money men live. Try living in South Wales where industry has been decimated. I was hauling out of Port Talbot in the late 1960’s. Go down and tell the chaps down there what you think.