Anyone ever had one? Do they work? A lot on our place have them and get what they want. So ■■■■ it I threw one earlier and ■■■■ me I got what I wanted! Result they do work!!!
I’m dismayed that it works so well, its not something i can or would do, but those drama queens and snowflakes who jump up and down till they get what they want do get what they want.
4.5 years to go, can’t go quick enough.
They do work, but only for a while. Normally found that after a couple of weeks, things started going back to the old ways. Usually had to throw another tantrum to keep them on their toes.
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Never thrown a tantrum. Always had a handshake from the boss when I left, and a ‘give us a shout if it doesn’t work out’…
Also never worried about not being able to go to work next week…
Full grown blokes throwing a tantrum …bit soft ain’t it?
Ooooh . . . I want that Scania I was here before you . . . you ■■■■■ 
I always find a polite man to man discussion, with no effin and jeffin, about any grievance or injustice I have had in the past, has always worked for me.
Tantrums are for the under 5s, not grown men who are supposedly professional drivers. 
Don’t tend to get tantrums in my job. Not all effin and Jeffin to each other. The bottom line is too serious and knuckle dragging behaviour kills at the coal face. I know it’s happened to a couple of line guys on the quiet to very low managers 
. Maybe behind closed doors about senior management. Give me a beer and ask me about senior management and I’m like a wind up toy 
. So are all my colleagues. Normal venting stuff we all do. If I threw a proper effin and jeffin tantrum at work I’d be out on grass, if to the wrong person I’d be lucky to work in the field again.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve felt close only once in my career and that was my latest employer just after I joined them when I asked advice completely in innocence on the ground at a terminal to a passenger services person. A more condescending patronising little git you couldn’t conjur. I felt the anger rise and to be honest the inner chimp in me wanted to jack Russell him by the scruff. But it’s just anger at being humiliated knowing you can’t do much. I bit my lip. It hurt to as that’s human nature but it’s shortly forgotten and your career/job is for a life hopefully.
I’m lucky as I’m not a beyond normal combative person so I can control any natural anger that has occurred to me in the workplace as any normal decent bloke can (apart from when I was younger and in different jobs such as haulage and you tend to over compensate for being younger in an old man field, but that’s when you’re a kid and know no better). If you are a self appointed warrior you don’t last in this gig.
Sorry for posting again but I’ve just remembered.
Incidentally I’ve had a tantrum directed at me, when I left my job and went back into haulage a couple of years ago. I suppose I was assaulted in the workplace really by the modern way of looking at it.
A fitter with a reputation blew his top over a trailer abs fault. Long story, I’d been to scania and got the unit checked and there wasn’t a fault. I went back to the yard, passed on the info as I’d been told to by “fleet”
Ultimately I was as racked off as he as fleet had me running around like a ■■■■ doing their job whilst they sat in arm chairs in a two story porta cabin. He was changing a tyre on a trailer at the time. When I told him, he screamed, got up, threw his tyre iron in front of me with serious force and it bounced and hit me in the straight in the shin, then he stormed off and sat in his van . I told fleet the fitter “disagreed” with scania and walked off. By this point I was loosing patience with “fleet” as they had me running around for the last hour. I almost in passing I mentioned he threw a tyre iron at me but they didn’t give a ■■■■. Before all the heroes wade in this gorilla who stole a small human brain was about ten feet tall and I’m not completely stupid.
It didn’t hurt luckily that much, it smarted for sure for a brief bit, but I’m not a prat who milks things and I don’t think he meant it to actually hit me -bizarrely it didn’t even register on my anger scale, i was too busy laughing at him and wanting to get up the road. I’m not sure to this day why I had this reaction. I just didn’t seem that bothered. I was going through some distracting things at the time and I think I was slightly switched off emotionally. If it had been more serious it would’ve been a police matter
I laughed for the rest of the day as I’ve rarely seen such childish behaviour in an Adult. I’m not used to it anymore. Every time I spoke to him after he seemed sheepish. I never did him any harm, before and was probably nicer to him before than most drivers and even after the event I spoke directly to him no different and I think that messed with his monkey mind. The more it seemed to visually affect him that I was as nice after as before the more I did it. Like I say, I was pretty switched off at the time with distractions. Apparently he was banned from another haulier - fowlers for punching someone 
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I get to throw tantrums - when I’m asked to carry someone else who’s refused to do their own job, because they’ve thrown a tantrum.
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in yer face
Funny thing is, from personal experience, before I went truck driving, in my last job if I refused a job I’d be walked off site and suspended.
Same company, a driver refused a job two days in a row, gets away with it. Usual excuses, can’t use a pump truck, can’t go to London, no more than 12 hours etc.
Yet folk like that ■■■■■■■ idiot gets to keep his job, rather than getting rid of idiots like him.
neilp1982:
Funny thing is, from personal experience, before I went truck driving, in my last job if I refused a job I’d be walked off site and suspended.Same company, a driver refused a job two days in a row, gets away with it. Usual excuses, can’t use a pump truck, can’t go to London, no more than 12 hours etc.
Yet folk like that [zb] idiot gets to keep his job, rather than getting rid of idiots like him.
When we were on Kwik Save we used to love blokes like that, you’d go into work at say 3am and there’d be some bod nearly in tears, whassup mate, i’ve got 3 drops London or whatever terrifying run they had, oh rightto mate do you want my straight hit Grimsby instead and i’ll do that Londn for you? cor yeah, he goes off like a dog with two knobs to do a 9 hour shift, meanwhile i pencil in 13 or 15 hours on me timesheet… 
kerching, see the OT rate over 8.45 hours (all time paid straight through) was superb, plus we’d be on dark money till 6am too, plus the usual first drops down there wouldn’t touch you till 9am so couple of hours kip then totty clocking depending on store area (remember the ladies still dressed nicely then), and all on the clock
neilp1982:
Funny thing is, from personal experience, before I went truck driving, in my last job if I refused a job I’d be walked off site and suspended.Same company, a driver refused a job two days in a row, gets away with it. Usual excuses, can’t use a pump truck, can’t go to London, no more than 12 hours etc.
Yet folk like that [zb] idiot gets to keep his job, rather than getting rid of idiots like him.
With me, it’s
“last minute sick, can’t get an agency in this short notice” one day,
“Run out of hours at 10 hours on nights” - go and cover the rest of his job because you’re Mr Flexible" the next
“Cancel your holiday, 'cos you’re now going to be working into your weekly rest/holiday you had a trip out with your family planned for”
"Don’t try and book holidays around the school holidays, cos this driver who keeps dropping you in the crap - has booked all the days YOU might have wanted months ahead of you. Tough luck.
In a unionized office, this guy would probably be the site rep.
In a yard with no Union - this guy would probably be a remainer, knows EU legistlation back to front, and only ever uses it to feather their own nest, and stitch up their fellow drivers, especially the “keener” ones.
Both persons will be impossible to sack, because they use management’s lack of knowledge of applicable law to always avoid such an outcome.
The final outcome is eventually that the longer-working driver quits, and eventually the place fills up with “jobsworth” drivers who are all minimalists, all backstabbing gits, all going sick 9 days per year to max out what they can get away with without getting a disciplinary, and always refusing to do overtime, except when it’s the premium stuff that they always seem to get first dibs on, because they play golf with the boss (or play with the boss, if they are that way inclined!)
And thats a truckers way of saying they stick up for themselves ie have a tantrum you know what it just keeps on getting better i don’t even need to tell how our job really is just read any post here and the best part is they don’t even realise it brilliant
Nightline…I agree…thats why the industry is so ■■■■■■ up…drivers wont or cannot speak up for themselves…theres nothing bad about refusing a job if its a genuine reason ( not to do it forever and ever )
i always believe if a firm has a ■■■■ job, we should all take turns…but dont let bosses walk over you, stand your ground, dont have to be bolshy, in refusing whatb you dont want to do…i refused to reduce my rest to 9…all the other drivers complained What about him they would say. till eventually some joined in, it ruined the schedules, for the idiot planners planned for this, and the 15 hour days…till they got the message not to plan my life for me…its my perogative to work a 15, its also my choice not to reduce a rest…and i have fought for my rights…been kicked off a few jobs, got sacked for gross misconduct, all because i stood my ground…others are not prepared to do it…their choice.
I got sacked several years ago from an extremely well known tanker company in the north east on the grounds of"poor performance and lack of cooperation."It depends on your point of view.I prefer to call it acknowledging that there are rules pertaining to driving and rest time.Unfortunately I was the only one of a dozen or so drivers to do so.If I were to show you the hours worked and distances travelled you wouldn’t believe it.