im a new pass class1 driver, working for the dairys atm and lovin it!
just after some tips, i want to drive the tankers, we use the milk tankers at work an i want to get on them (better truck, better hours and shiney trailors)
just wondering if you guys knew what sort of qualifications you need to drive them(if any)? or what would make me more desirable over any other tom, ā ā ā ā or chav for them to give me a opportunityā ā ?
it is milk btwā¦ does that still mean you need the ADR? or is that the course?
im based in the midlands so if anyone knows of any slightlly local training courses thatād be GRAND!!!
dannyboy_85:
it is milk btwā¦ does that still mean you need the ADR? or is that the course?
Hi dannyboy_85, STILL need ADR
No mate, milk isnāt counted as a dangerous substance, so no ADR licence is required.
(ADR only regulates dangerous substances.)
There isnāt a specific driving licence category for tankers, so you just need the appropriate driving licence thatās normally required for the base vehicle eg. Cat āCā or Cat "C+E.
Some dairy companies will give you some training designed to familiarise you with the fact that liquid loads will āsurgeā inside a tanker, especially when braking or turning. Depending on whether the vehicle is a rigid or an artic, will usually make a difference when doing milk collections.
The rigids usually collect from the farms, and therefore run part-loaded for at least some of the time, whereas artics on milk the milk job usually run either full or empty, but this can vary from job to job. Also, the employer will probably send you out with an āold handā to learn the job correctly.
dieseldave:
milk isnāt counted as a dangerous substance
I think you need to put the ADR books down and take a [zb] break Dave.
Well, if I was a newbie, I would be pretty sure that the milk by it self would not be dangerous BUT I might not know WHAT consituted a dangerous LOAD and may therefore make an asumption the ADR regs was to do with dangerous loads such as tankers where the load can wallow about as well as dangerous substances.
A full tanker of milk is no big deal, just take it steady on the doughnuts, other than that nothing to say.
You wont get slop on a full liner, but if its not full, but say half full etc
then just be warey of slop when braking, ie the milk surging forwards and you sitting there like a nodding dog.
Hi Rob K, I think that if you re-read the OP, youāll see that dannyboy_85 was questioning:
dannyboy_85:
does that still mean you need the ADR? or is that the course?
I merely told him that he didnāt need ADR for that job, and I then followed that with the reason that he didnāt need ADR. Itās actually quite a common misconception amongst new drivers that an ADR licence is need for driving tankers, whereas Iām sure you already understood the distinction that ADR is only required when itās dangerous goods that are being carried. Would you agree that a number of new drivers donāt fully appreciate that thereās quite a sizeable food industry that is made more economic by the use of food-grade tankers?
Rob K:
I think you need to put the ADR books down and take a [zb] break Dave.
As for me needing a break from ADR books Rob, I can guarantee that I didnāt need to pick one up to answer that question
Gurner:
ā¦ but if its not full, but say half full etc
then just be warey of slop when braking, ie the milk surging forwards and you sitting there like a nodding dog.
Thatās true Gurner, but if that were the only problem itās only an inconvenience when the driver becomes sea-sick
To be serious, and as Iām sure you know, the problem surfaces with a partly laden tanker when you try to turn and brake at the same time. When this happens, the forces of inertia AND centrifugal force are acting in conflict with each other. These conflicting forces will cause a roll-over at surprisingly low speeds. A 25% load is generally considered to be the worst, because thereās enough weight aboard to cause problems, whilst at the same time thereās plenty of room for the load to move about.
Gurner:
ā¦ but if its not full, but say half full etc
then just be warey of slop when braking, ie the milk surging forwards and you sitting there like a nodding dog.
Thatās true Gurner, but if that were the only problem itās only an inconvenience when the driver becomes sea-sick
To be serious, and as Iām sure you know, the problem surfaces with a partly laden tanker when you try to turn and brake at the same time. When this happens, the forces of inertia AND centrifugal force are acting in conflict with each other. These conflicting forces will cause a roll-over at surprisingly low speeds. A 25% load is generally considered to be the worst, because thereās enough weight aboard to cause problems, whilst at the same time thereās plenty of room for the load to move about.
I posted a very good article on here about tanker driving about a year ago. Itād be worth your while doing a search.
Rob K:
I posted a very good article on here about tanker driving about a year ago. Itād be worth your while doing a search.
Yes, Iād like to read that please Rob.
I had a go at finding it, but the trouble is Iām not brilliant with search āthingysā so could you put a link for me please??
Itās to do with your extremely high post count, and my lack of skill at narrowing down the results.
Rob K:
I posted a very good article on here about tanker driving about a year ago. Itād be worth your while doing a search.
Yes, Iād like to read that please Rob.
I had a go at finding it, but the trouble is Iām not brilliant with search āthingysā so could you put a link for me please??
Itās to do with your extremely high post count, and my lack of skill at narrowing down the results.
Rob K:
I posted a very good article on here about tanker driving about a year ago. Itād be worth your while doing a search.
Yes, Iād like to read that please Rob.
I had a go at finding it, but the trouble is Iām not brilliant with search āthingysā so could you put a link for me please??
Itās to do with your extremely high post count, and my lack of skill at narrowing down the results.
Er, I donāt see any posts from me about tips on driving tankers there ROG. Wrong thread. Try again (and no I canāt be arsed looking for it before you ask).
