im sure ive seen this question or similar on here before but i cant find it.
i got a lift into work in the morning as my car was in for a service, did a 15 hr shift by the time i got back to the yard, my boss doesnt mind taking the units home, i only live 8 miles away. i was wondering if i could legally drive home in the unit? wether i need the tacho in or out?( presume its in to prevent missing mileage), how would i endorse the back of the tacho? or would i have to sleep in the unit in the yard? i dont do nights out, its just this day went pear shaped. this is only a theoretical question as i got the wife to pick me up. i like to keep things 100% legal, this is why im asking in case it happens again. thanks
ive wonderd that as we have a yearly carnival and we pul floats with are trucks usually on a saturday. We checked with our tacho man and he said its ok write personal use on the back and the kms are coverd. As for your situation may be different but cant see why but because it`s not for hire or reward.
Chrislee;
The journey from yard to home at the end of the working day will be classed as duty period and added to your working day, so if you have already done 15 hours when you arrive back at the yard, you will have ‘insufficient daily rest by the time you get home.’ Similarly the period driving home will be added to your daily driving period, so their may be more trouble in store there. If you don’t use a chart on the journey home then expect a ’ fail to keep record.’
Oildonkey;
The carnival sounds fun, did a similar day out some years ago at Hinkley. We did the same as you then drove to France with a loaded trailer in the afternoon. Was never questioned about it. If you got paid for the day then you may well have problems. It could be looked as you were on duty and may end up with ‘insufficient weekly rest.’ If you weren’t paid, the powers that be may decide to take the matter no further. But remember, the term ‘hire and reward’ does not appear in tacho legislation. It is merely; a motor vehicle, permitted gross weight exceeding 3 500 kg, in free circulation (on a road), carrying goods. Goods can basically be anything and the Regs apply whether the vehicle is laden or not.
But if the carnival example were to be subject to ‘the usual’ rules & regs, then surely it couldn’t happen for reasons such as ‘unsecured load’ or ‘persons riding in the trailer’■■
The boss might be ok with taking units home, but he is not the ministry, they have a pet hate of this.
If any neighbours or passers-by ever complains to the police about you parking at home the ministry will be down on him like a tonne of square building blocks