I have a 7.5 tonner motorhome, built from a 95e18 1996 iveco (downplated) - and Im looking at changing the back axle to get a bit more speed / reduce revs at motorway speeds. As you know, motorhomes are exempt from drivers hours, tachos, speed restrictions and all that. Crazy I know - but I still get overtaken by 20 ton coaches… It redlines (easily) at 65mph - and its at 2600rpm at 55mph and I’m getting 11mpg on a run.
Anyway - as I dont need a ‘legal’ tacho, (just a plain speedo) can I adjust the calibration myself to match the new axle? Its got a Kienzle type analogue. Are there any distructions I can get on how to do it?
guyd:
It redlines (easily) at 65mph - and its at 2600rpm at 55mph and I’m getting 11mpg on a run.
no idea about calibrating the Tacho, but I’d be expecting better mpg that that
ps, welcome to TruckNet UK
I’ll second both of those sentiments.
I would expect an 18tonner that is only weighing in at 7.5t max to be returning mid to high teens mpg. That said if you’re cruising at 60mph+ then it will drastically reduce the mpg (especially if you’re revving the nuts off it at that speed), try driving at 50-55mph and see what difference it makes as that will be the speed it is geared for.
TheFan46:
as long as it was initialy calibrated and as long as all SEALS are intact it’s leagal.
i’m qualifyed to tacho calibrator but still had to double check
Also…
If the vehicle goes for MOT Testing and Plating, it is written;
All vehicles
A tachograph exemption form must be completed for all vehicles deemed as tachograph exempt, unless the vehicle technical record shows the vehicle is exempt or it is declared on the application form.
Yes. Its an oddball - its very similar to a 75e18 as far as I can see, just with different springs etc.
Vosa dont want any form of plating, as its never been necessary as its previous life was a mobile clinic, and tacho exempt, as it is now. The MOT I take it for is a class IV (car)…
Yes - 50 -55mph results in 2500rpm, the end of the green band on the rev counter, and 12.6mpg…
Thanks for the welcome, and not taking the p1ss… lol ( I do have C+E to be fair)
If a truck is using a log book only and the type of work will not require a tachograph, does the tacho still have to be calibrated? The trucks are on a restricted licence for own goods only. We use both analogue and digital.
ERF:
Please excuse this slightly long winded extract from the VOSA exemption form…
This form is to be completed and submitted at time of test if a vehicle does not have a calibrated tachograph fitted according to the requirements of IM26 of the Heavy Goods Vehicle Inspection Manual and the presenter wishes to declare it to be exempt. One of the following reasons should be selected and the declaration on page 2 signed:
1.
Vehicle was manufactured prior to 1 January 1947
2.
Vehicle is over 25 years old and is not used commercially for carriage of goods
3.
Vehicle is not capable by design of exceeding 40km/h under its own power on level road
4.
Vehicle is not over 7500kg GVW or is part of a combination of vehicles not over 7500 kg
combined GVW which is not used commercially for carriage of goods
5.
Vehicle is not over 7500kg GVW or is part of a combination of vehicles not over 7500 kg
combined GVW which is used to carry materials equipment or machinery for the driver s use in
the course of his work within a 50 km radius of base and where driving is not the driver s main
activity
6.
Vehicle is not over 7500kg GVW or part of a combination of vehicles not over 7500 kg combined GVW which is propelled by natural or liquefied gas or electricity and is used within a 50 km radius of base
7.
Vehicle is used in connection with sewerage, flood protection, water, gas or electricity maintenance services, road maintenance or control, door-to-door refuse collection or disposal, telegraph or telephone services, radio or television broadcasting or detection of radio or television receivers
8.
Vehicle is used by or on behalf of a relevant NHS body or other authorised body to transport
organs, blood, medical supplies or equipment
9.
Vehicle is a specialised vehicle used for medical purposes
10.
Vehicle used by a local authority for relevant social services functions
11.
Vehicle is used by coastguard or lighthouse authorities
12.
Vehicle is used by harbour authorities for improvement, maintenance or management purposes within harbour limits
13.
Vehicle is used by an airport authority within airport perimeters or used on roads inside hub
facilities such as a port, interport or railway terminal
14.
Vehicle is operated by British Railways Board, a Crown railway network licence holder, Transport for London or a local authority or PTE for railway maintenance purposes
15.
Vehicle is operated by British Waterways for purposes of maintaining navigable canals
16.
Vehicle is used by the Royal National Lifeboat Institution for hauling lifeboats
17.
Vehicle is used by agricultural, horticultural or forestry undertakings as part of their own
entrepreneurial activity to carry goods within a 100 km radius of their base
18.
Vehicle is used by a fishery undertaking as part of their own entrepreneurial activity to carry live fish or a catch of fish from the place of landing to be processed within a 100 km radius of their base
19.
Vehicle is used to carry animal waste or carcasses not intended for human consumption
20.
Vehicle is used to carry live animals between farms and local markets, or from a market to a local slaughterhouse within a maximum radius of 50 km
21.
Vehicle is used for milk collection from farms or return to farms of milk containers or milk products intended for animal feed
22.
Vehicle is used to carry sea coal
23.
Vehicle is a specially fitted mobile project vehicle with a primary purpose of providing educational facilities when stationary (including mobile lending libraries)
24.
Vehicle is used by or under the control of the armed services, civil defence, fire services or forces responsible for maintaining public order
25.
Vehicle is used in emergencies or rescue operations (including humanitarian aid)
26.
Vehicle is a specialised breakdown vehicle only used within a 100 km radius of base
27.
Vehicle is a specialised vehicle transporting circus and funfair equipment
28.
Vehicle is used for driving or CPC instruction or examination and does not carry goods
29.
Vehicle is used on an island not exceeding 2300 square kilometres in area not linked to the rest of Great Britain by a bridge, tunnel or ford open to motor vehicles
DECLARATION: I declare that vehicle registration mark … is exempt from the tachograph fitment requirement for reason … (1-29 as applicable) above.
Animal bi-products. So log books only. When you think of the eu drivers hours and compare it to GB Domestic it’s a joke! We could run 44t and drive 10 hours a day everyday!
Fileep:
Animal bi-products. So log books only. When you think of the eu drivers hours and compare it to GB Domestic it’s a joke! We could run 44t and drive 10 hours a day everyday!
Oh yes ! , I knew someone on that a few years ago , no further comments
but it looks like you should be covered by
Vehicle is used to carry animal waste or carcasses not intended for human consumption
Fileep:
Animal bi-products. So log books only. When you think of the eu drivers hours and compare it to GB Domestic it’s a joke! We could run 44t and drive 10 hours a day everyday!
Vehicle is used to carry animal waste or carcasses not intended for human consumption
Fileep:
Animal bi-products. So log books only. When you think of the eu drivers hours and compare it to GB Domestic it’s a joke! We could run 44t and drive 10 hours a day everyday!
But don’t forget the other part of the regulation. In blue.
Daily driving limit - a driver must not drive for more than ten hours in a day. The daily driving limit applies to time spent at the wheel actually driving on a public road. Off-road driving counts as duty time.
Daily duty limit - a driver must not be on duty for more that 11 hours on any working day. A driver is exempt from the daily duty limit on any working day when they do not drive.
Fileep:
Animal bi-products. So log books only. When you think of the eu drivers hours and compare it to GB Domestic it’s a joke! We could run 44t and drive 10 hours a day everyday!
But don’t forget the other part of the regulation. In blue.
Daily driving limit - a driver must not drive for more than ten hours in a day. The daily driving limit applies to time spent at the wheel actually driving on a public road. Off-road driving counts as duty time.
Daily duty limit - a driver must not be on duty for more that 11 hours on any working day. A driver is exempt from the daily duty limit on any working day when they do not drive.
Duty: In the case of an employee driver, this means being on duty (whether driving or otherwise)
for anyone who employs him as a driver. This includes all periods of work and driving, but does not include rest or breaks. Employers should also remember that they have additional obligations to
ensure that drivers receive adequate rest under health and safety legislation.
The tacho has to be initially calibrated, but does not then have to have any further checks, 2 or 6 year unless a seal is removed or a plaque becomes illegible.
In Ireland we have similar exemptions,however we are also advised if the vehicle has a mandatory fitment of a Road Speed Limiter,and the Tachographspeed signal is used to control the Road Speed Limiter,then it must be calibrated…two yearly inspected etc…etc… irrespective of whether the vehicle is tachograph usage exempt or not. This seems to cover 99.9% of >3,500kgs goods vehicles on the market.
as long as it was initialy calibrated and as long as all SEALS are intact it’s leagal.
i’m qualifyed to tacho calibrator bnut still had to double check
