Tacho Violation Report

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I am showing a weekly rest violation on my tacho report which i cant get my head around.

Here is what I did:

Friday 20th June - Wednesday 25th June - Rest
Thursday 26th June - Saturday 28th - Driving
Sunday 29th June - Rest
Monday 30th June - Saturday 5th July - Driving
Sunday 6th July - Rest
Monday 7th July - Driving
Tuesday 8th July - Thursday 10th July - Rest

The software is saying that I should have had a full (45 hour) rest period on 6th July when I only had a reduced (24 hour) rest. I think what I did was correct, as in any 2 fixed weeks I had one full rest period and one reduced rest period. Can someone please clarify?

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Don’t quote me on this one and if Im wrong someone correct me

From the information you have supplied you’ve had 2 x 24hrs in a two week period,

From what I gather about reduced rest and its been explained to me as the following

week 1 - 45hr
week 2 - 24hr - reduced weekly rest
week 3 - 45hr

Any two consecutive calendar weeks must contain at least one 45 Hour Regular Weekly Rest.

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Swampey2418:
Don’t quote me on this one and if Im wrong someone correct me

From the information you have supplied you’ve had 2 x 24hrs in a two week period,

From what I gather about reduced rest and its been explained to me as the following

week 1 - 45hr
week 2 - 24hr - reduced weekly rest
week 3 - 45hr

Any two consecutive calendar weeks must contain at least one 45 Hour Regular Weekly Rest.

^^^This

But remember your company working week & your working week may differ so that may also through this up

As all company working week is from 00.00 Monday till 23.59 sunday

Your may be different from that

Sorry not checked the days of week you have put down

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I fully agree that “Any two consecutive calendar weeks must contain at least one 45 Hour Regular Weekly Rest”, but I have done that:

16th June - 22nd June - 45 hour regular weekly rest
23rd June - 29th June - 45 hour regular weekly rest and 24 hour reduced weekly rest
30th June - 6th July - 24 hour reduced weekly rest
7th July - 13th July - 45 hour regular weekly rest

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whelmic:
I am showing a weekly rest violation on my tacho report which i cant get my head around.

Here is what I did:

Friday 20th June - Wednesday 25th June - Rest
Thursday 26th June - Saturday 28th - Driving
Sunday 29th June - Rest
Monday 30th June - Saturday 5th July - Driving
Sunday 6th July - Rest
Monday 7th July - Driving
Tuesday 8th July - Thursday 10th July - Rest

The software is saying that I should have had a full (45 hour) rest period on 6th July when I only had a reduced (24 hour) rest. I think what I did was correct, as in any 2 fixed weeks I had one full rest period and one reduced rest period. Can someone please clarify?

Did you have 45 from sat 5 july - mon 7 july :question:
drive mon then off from tues

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yes they are correct 2 reduced breaks in a row, fixed weeks for tacho regs sunday 0000 to sunday. that’s the problem it appears both breaks started before midnight on the 2 sundays :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

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wildfire:
yes they are correct 2 reduced breaks in a row, fixed weeks for tacho regs sunday 0000 to sunday. that’s the problem it appears both breaks started before midnight on the 2 sundays :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

Where does it say in the regulations that you are not allowed 2 reduced weekly breaks in a row? All it says is

"In any two consecutive ‘fixed’ weeks a driver must take at least:

  • two regular weekly rests; or
  • one regular weekly rest and one reduced weekly rest."

I have done that.

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whelmic:

wildfire:
yes they are correct 2 reduced breaks in a row, fixed weeks for tacho regs sunday 0000 to sunday. that’s the problem it appears both breaks started before midnight on the 2 sundays :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

Where does it say in the regulations that you are not allowed 2 reduced weekly breaks in a row? All it says is

"In any two consecutive ‘fixed’ weeks a driver must take at least:

  • two regular weekly rests; or
  • one regular weekly rest and one reduced weekly rest."

I have done that.

Yes but which 2 weeks ■■ this is why you need to read it all as the 2 week can be any of them so this is why you have pay back on the third

You can do

Week 1 45 rest
Week 2 24 rest
Week 3 45 rest
Week 4 24 rest

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To me it looks like the 29th reduced rest and the 6th reduced rest has triggered it, even though you have had lots of time off you haven’t conformed to the pen pushers rules.

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animal:
Yes but which 2 weeks ■■ this is why you need to read it all as the 2 week can be any of them so this is why you have pay back on the third

You can do

Week 1 45 rest
Week 2 24 rest
Week 3 45 rest
Week 4 24 rest

16th June - 22nd June - 45 hour regular weekly rest
23rd June - 29th June - 45 hour regular weekly rest and 24 hour reduced weekly rest
30th June - 6th July - 24 hour reduced weekly rest
7th July - 13th July - 45 hour regular weekly rest

As you can see, there is only 1 week where I have not had a full 45 hour weekly rest.

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whelmic:

animal:
Yes but which 2 weeks ■■ this is why you need to read it all as the 2 week can be any of them so this is why you have pay back on the third

You can do

Week 1 45 rest
Week 2 24 rest
Week 3 45 rest
Week 4 24 rest

16th June - 22nd June - 45 hour regular weekly rest
23rd June - 29th June - 45 hour regular weekly rest and 24 hour reduced weekly rest
30th June - 6th July - 24 hour reduced weekly rest
7th July - 13th July - 45 hour regular weekly rest

Your 1st post say you drove on 7th july

29th june 24 rest
6th july 24 rest

There is the problem

As you can see, there is only 1 week where I have not had a full 45 hour weekly rest.

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whelmic:
Here is what I did:

Friday 20th June - Wednesday 25th June - Rest
Thursday 26th June - Saturday 28th - Driving = 3 shifts
Sunday 29th June - Rest
Monday 30th June - Saturday 5th July - Driving = 6 shifts
Sunday 6th July - Rest
Monday 7th July - Driving = 1 shift
Tuesday 8th July - Thursday 10th July - Rest

As I see it its not about the weeks or the dates it’s the continuous shifts rule that has been triggered
Though I am assuming 29th & 6th are both 24 hour rests

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Muckspreader:
To me it looks like the 29th reduced rest and the 6th reduced rest has triggered it, even though you have had lots of time off you haven’t conformed to the pen pushers rules.

I think you are correct that is what has triggered it. What I cant find is where in the legislation that comes from? All I can find is where is says in any two consecutive fixed weeks you must take either two regular weekly rests or one regular rest and one reduced weekly rest. I have done that. In fact there is only 1 week where I have not had a full 45 hour weekly rest.

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whelmic:
I am showing a weekly rest violation on my tacho report which i cant get my head around.

Here is what I did:

Friday 20th June - Wednesday 25th June - Rest
Thursday 26th June - Saturday 28th - Driving
Sunday 29th June - Rest
Monday 30th June - Saturday 5th July - Driving
Sunday 6th July - Rest
Monday 7th July - Driving
Tuesday 8th July - Thursday 10th July - Rest

The software is saying that I should have had a full (45 hour) rest period on 6th July when I only had a reduced (24 hour) rest. I think what I did was correct, as in any 2 fixed weeks I had one full rest period and one reduced rest period. Can someone please clarify?

If those are your correct weekly rest periods and the reduced weekly rest periods were at-least 24 consecutive hours, there’s nothing wrong with it, the software is wrong.

What analysis software are you using ?

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This might help

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=71511

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animal:
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Your 1st post say you drove on 7th july

29th june 24 rest
6th july 24 rest

There is the problem

Yes I drove on 7th July.

Where is the problem? Yes I had 2 reduced rests in a row, but as far as I can see there is nothing in the legislation disallowing that providing that you also have at least one full 45 hour rest period in any 2 consecutive fixed weeks.

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tachograph:
If those are your correct weekly rest periods and the reduced weekly rest periods were at-least 24 consecutive hours, there’s nothing wrong with it, the software is wrong.

What analysis software are you using ?

That is what I am thinking, just wanted some clarification.

Globofleet CC Plus

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Follow the link I posted above to get Driver hours & tach ruled GV 262 03

BTW it is 56 pages long but think you need from page 20

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animal:
Follow the link I posted above to get Driver hours & tach ruled GV 262 03

BTW it is 56 pages long but think you need from page 20

That says the same as I posted before:

"In any two consecutive ‘fixed’ weeks a driver must take at least:

  • two regular weekly rests; or
  • one regular weekly rest and one reduced weekly rest."

I have met this criteria.

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Yes but read the rest as you have to compensate the next by taking a 45 weekly rest