No not younger !!. No liked my job. Actually really liked it. Just telling you how it was. Never had a bad word with anyone in the firm.
Crap with forums and social media . I’m 61 actually with 2 new hips. Fit as a fiddle and a bloody safe driver unlike many on the roads. Appologies if coming over pissed off.
I started with the firm thru an agency. They wrote to the agency asking for more drivers like me . Yes me!!. Cos I had a good attitude to work. They kept me for a year full time thru the agency and eventually I agreed to work full time for them. All the drivers warned me how they would change. They did.
But I just wanted an opinion on the infringement. Hey I’m happy for any other views but just bear in mind we are all drivers. We all work dam hard.
Happy days. I’m working again but yes hell bent on revenge.
Steveeasy
Yep I totally get all that bus, and I guessed either younger or older than me and I was correct, I’m 47.
It is all unfair totally but that is life sadly. Lots of things are unfair but look after number one and sod everyone else, cover your arse all the time otherwise it will come back to bite you as it did in this case. Lots of people get sacked who are good workers who have a run of bad luck or mistakes and people who should get sacked don’t, seen it happen many a time. Doesn’t make it right though.
And I absolutely get your pissed by it. But like I said move on don’t be that guy anymore or go the extra mile all the time as it gets you nowhere, just do the minimum for the most pay and go home. I’m yet to find an employee id go to the ends of the earth for bar my old boss many years ago who had a tin pot haulage outfit. Best boss I’ve ever worked for and maybe one otter boss of a completely different company doing a completely different job, actually 2 in that job but I was made redundant after just one year of joining the 2nd company in 2007 as he knew the financial market was going to take a big hit a d had to downsize to survive, I was lart one in first out. And then after weathering that storm COVID hit which also decimated that industry.
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I’m just one of those drivers who shuts their mouth and does a fair days work. If I’m turned though I’ll defend what I feel is right.
Rightly or wrongly I tend to think the driving bit is the important bit. When I was young I was a crap dangerous driver. Now even if I come over as a arse , I know I’m safe and responsible and respect who I work for.
Don’t take nasty ■■■■■ though, not until I’m 6ft under.
Steveeasy
For my interjection, what’s the best advice when booking off for a daily rest?
Do most drivers take the digital card out or is it best to leave it in overnight , some companies insist that their drivers must leave the card in for the 9 or 11 hours off?
I preferred to leave mine out as you never know for any reason that the lorry may have to be moved for only a few feet, let’s say you pull in to a lay-by and inadvertently didn’t see the entrance to a farmer’s field, he then rocks up with the tractor or combine demanding the lorry to moved slightly, with the card in, the daily rest would have been interrupted, and have to be reset to start it all over again.
Or on a industrial estate, and in error blocked access to an industrial unit and the staff bang on the door to get the lorry shifted a few feet, I’ve never blocked access by the way and always checked for for fire hydrants before booking off.
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Sounds like Gregory Distribution to me, the blue eyed boys crying about they can’t do London runs, want to finish by Friday lunchtime as they have an early am flight for a holiday abroad on Saturday morning,or moaning why other drivers always get the cream of the crop best jobs with one delivery on a nice long run with a night out but the other poor souls always get multi drops all over the place.
One lad got the sack for displaying a very small political party logo on his social media pages, on his free time he would take his truck to truck shows, so the photos of the company vehicles already at the show were on his website or social media pages, they said that their existing customers and potentially new customers would see the political emblem/flag/banner and the customers didn’t want to be associated with what that political party stood for.
Stuar
If you’re referring to me, don’t bother. I don’t do whingeing.
The day in question I’d done 11 hours. I was then asked to go from Grimsby down to Somerset. Now I know your find it hard to believe but I was not well. I merely asked if I could delay my arrival time by 2 hours. Accused of going to pull a sicky.
Given I’ve not done a sicky in the last 5 years. I took offense.
The above merely shows the companies poor attitude. Not mine.
And I might add contacting DVSA about an infringement is anyone’s right. They don’t exist just for operators benifit. I wanted to get advice and to ask if a driver should be briefed regarding infringements,
No idear why people stick up for operators. They don’t give a dam over your safety , all they do is cover their own backs. Thats a fact and I’ll call them out if I think its justified, and I’ll happily tell them I’ve done so.
even if that was true there is still no reason to contact dvsa… either you signed it or you didnt. if they say you have ask them to show you. how the hell would dvsa know if you signed it or not.
For clarity, I’d not signed anything. The operator had stated he’d briefed me. He hadn’t.
So I wanted an informed opinion on the infringement and if the operator should be briefing a driver over alleged infringement. It’s called taking advice from exactly the right people. I was sacked for contacting them. If they were doing everything correctly then why be bothered if I’d contacted DVSA.
Can’t understand why anyone would think it wrong, maybe stupid if you’re intimidated by your boss. I’m not. I do my job to the best of my ability and accordingly I expect likewise.
Steveeasy
you know they should be briefing you… otherwise why have they done it in the past you also know you need to accurately record your activities on the tacho. no need to ring dvsa. You say you hadnt signed anything to say you have been briefed on the infringement ask to see it. again no need to ring dvsa.
you rang the dvsa to cause trouble for the company just havent the courage to admit it.
you deserve everything you got.
too funny you say that you except that you had infringements in the past but now say they never told you which is it. If they really never briefed you on any of them and you knew you had them then you must of known they were playing fast and loose with the rules but carried on working there for nearly 15 months.
if they have never briefed you on any infringement and call you into a disciplinary because of them. You just need to ask where the briefings are simples. they cant sack you for something that never happened that according to you did happen
Be good to get a legal opinion on the very issue I posted about. A legal opinion hence asking the question. I know what I should have done, that’s not disputed. I also appreciate what is expected. But I wonder still if having actually taken the rest period and can prove so, if I commited the actual offence.
Just imaging if a challange was successful. Think it would benifit drivers. I’m sure we’ve all failed to hit the button or you’d be perfect and that’s highly unlikely.
Sorry you’re wrong again. You can be sacked for any thing. You know that. We all know that.
Yes they have been playing loose. My next question is do they legally have to brief a driver ?.what is required ?
Can’t understand your mindset for thinking DVSA are the wrong people to ask. They are the police for driving regs surely
nope trust me you cant otherwise companies would sack you for being sick. or with in the first 5 min if your face didnt fit. They have to have evidence of wrong doing and prove they have given adequate support to stop it happening again. ie they told you about the infringements you acknowledged them and they told you how to avoid them
you didnt contact for them advice you clearly did it to drop the company in it just as i said above you havent got the courage to admit it
Hey you are entitled to your opinion. I know what my intention was, you don’t. If you did know you’d be one very clever person.
For clarity they did not tell me what an operator should or should not do. If you know then can you point me to that legislation.
All I can find is what is expected from an operator. If they should or need to brief then they have a far worse job than I have.
Are you a driver?
Blimey you don’t understand employment law either. Within 2 years of employment your employment can be terminated. In line with any contract.
Only exceptions are employee protected rights. One being whistleblowing. In essence reporting something to a department with some interest to the public. So me contacting DVSA might not have been such a bad idea after all.
Dissagree all you like but I’m pretty dam right. Now tell me I’m wrong as much as you like.
Steveeasy
Trutac
Operator does his bit. States he’s briefed driver. Driver signs online on an app. We all do it. Where is the briefing,
An industry made up of white lies. Nothing wrong with drivers or a driver challenging the status quo. If we did it more we’d be in a much better place.