Judging by the number of posts on the subject of the Swedish Derogation loop hole of the agency workers act 2011, I believe this may be of interest to some of you.
The GMB union is currently taking DHL, Wincanton and there associated agencys, tempay and 24,7 to court to challenge the legality of this loophole.
It has been reported in a number of publications, so not hard to find a full report on Google.
If they win, this will open the flood gates so to speak, for everyone else who is affected by this.
Hopefully we will finnaly be able to see the back of all this.
Radar19:
Someone explain to me what the Swedish Derogation is?
It’s an opt out clause of the agency workers act 2011. Basically you become a full permanent employer of the agency and loose your right to equal pay and conditions if you are in the same place for 12 weeks.
In my case I’m very happy where I am. It’s a dead easy job and the pay difference is very small. We are treated with the same respect as the very few full timers… However, some companies are really taking the ■■■■ with it.
The UK is one of only 4 European states that have allowed it and have manipulated it beyond the scope of the original Swedish model.
obayslave:
Judging by the number of posts on the subject of the Swedish Derogation loop hole of the agency workers act 2011, I believe this may be of interest to some of you.
The GMB union is currently taking DHL, Wincanton and there associated agencys, tempay and 24,7 to court to challenge the legality of this loophole.
It has been reported in a number of publications, so not hard to find a full report on Google.
If they win, this will open the flood gates so to speak, for everyone else who is affected by this.
Hopefully we will finnaly be able to see the back of all this.
Not really going to affect an HGV driver is it, I have never since going back to agencies for the last 13 years been paid less than the regular staff at any site I have been to, this loophole affects any agency staff member who is earning less than the regular staff on a site, its mainly office and warehouse agency staff that are affected, the loophole is to stop the agency staff getting a wage rise after 12 weeks, not a cut, that just doesn’t happen in the haulage industry, unless you can prove other wise that agency drivers are on less money than the full time drivers on a site during their first 12 weeks there!
Only once have I had a lower rate on agency than the full timers, and that was 27 years ago!!!
You agency, umbrella and LTD Co driver bashers are just ■■■■■■■ in the wind if you think this will affect them!
There was a poster on these forums who was complaining that his agency cut his wages to match full time drivers rates on the site he was on, but that was his own fault for staying there that long, but that wasn’t down to this loophole or even the AWR, that was because the agency found a mug to rob!!
It will affect quite a few drivers I’m sure. Definitely not all. Like you say, it is more often the case that agency staff are paid more in this industry. However I can think of a few off hand that definitely do not, including my last job and the place I’m at now. Just because you haven’t seen any doesn’t not make it so. I’m very happy with my agency and my job there, something I’ve not been able to say for a long time elsewhere, but there is a slight difference in pay. There is an act that should make things even, but they have allowed this loophole that just makes a mockery of the original act.
So, in the case of myself and the 30 odd other people in the same situation where I am, we at least would be glad to see the back of this.
My last full time job I started off as an agency worker, when I got taken on full time my wages went up pretty dramatically.
I never have and never will take on a permanent position that would pay less, even if it would mean guaranteed hours and a proper contract of employment.
