I hope they do this the council there have wrecked the main road and the kings way! I hate the place!nuff said 
+1
They tried that in Bristol yeah you can guess the rest … so a stores deliverys will have to be taken to point a to be grouped to be delivered to point b yeah ok that’s really going to reduce the amount of artics in town … the next problem is who takes the can for wrong , damaged , missing stock, etc 
yep they really have thought this through
Good luck delivering building products in that electric van. Can just see them trying to offload 1.5t concrete rings on a tail lift 
nick2008:
the next problem is who takes the can for wrong , damaged , missing stock, etc
The holding area will just sign it ‘Unchecked’ I presume.
Kaistar:
nick2008:
the next problem is who takes the can for wrong , damaged , missing stock, etcThe holding area will just sign it ‘Unchecked’ I presume.
ooh no that opens up a whole can of worms an snakes and ladders and ■■■■ etc
I’ll vote for it. I’d like to see a Transit Van deliver to Reids’ Bakery; 125x16kg sacks on its’ roof, the driver up there aswell, throwing each one up through a loft hatch to a mate who’ll then stack it in the granary loft.
Where do I sign and can I watch and laugh at them? 
So a Tesco Express’s deliveries all go into the consolidation centre… fresh, ambient, milk, bread, papers, frozen. Is this electric van going to collect all the empties, returns & recycling? Who is responsible for stock lost/damaged in transit? What happens if the milk, for example, is delivered late into the consolidation centre? Does the shop end up going without milk for the day or does the delivery of all their stock end up getting delayed whilst they wait on it, meaning Tesco can’t stock the shop?
Not thought through. Amazing how everybody’s an expert when it comes to transport, most of the ‘lets get lorries off the road’ brigade don’t have the first clue how it all works.
Boris Johnson’s idea? If a cyclist can not see a huge juggernaut monster killer truck,should they have gone to Specsavers ?
Google Lorry Watch Bradford on Avon and her merry bunch of Saga wanna-be cop Coffin dodgers in a shiny new hiviz,road warriors.
they are planning this for york, idea that everything over 7.5t is banned, will be intresting when theres 2000 trannys whizzing about
good idea,hope they do it for every city,its a bxxxxy nightmare driving in citys,let the customers come out to collect their goods,makes it easier for us
Tell the Nimbies to go back to the Medieval days and deliver goods with a donkey and cart.
Or failing that use the canals and deliver with a canal boat.
“Hello Mrs Smith,this is ABC transport here,your new sofa is on the way.It is doing 4 mph on the Manchester ship canal,and you should have it by Christmas.”
Make them collect their fridge with a wheelbarrow.
I think there’s a bit of (deliberate?) point-missing going on here. The idea is not to take bulk deliveries or perishable or chilled goods into the Consolidation Centre. In the former case there will be little or no benefit in terms of vehicle movements, and perishables, chilled etc require their own specialized handling. The aim is to take take the small/medium sized deliveries of “ordinary” boxed/packaged goods - which currently see several large vehicles from various companies dropping a pallet here, a dozen boxes there etc, before trundling off to the next town on their multi-drop route, and put them all onto one vehicle.
The Bristol-Bath operation has been running for several years now and there are very few reported instances of stock damage/shortage. The retailers generally like it because they know the time/day their deliveries will be coming (they usually get 2 or 3 deliveries a week, instead of several small delivieries each day - at variable times).
Who decideds who wins ‘‘the last mile contract’’ the council? Who builds these out of town depots, the council? Sounds like a logistical ■■■■■■■ contest nightmare nightmare.
I kinda agree from a certain view point. I do a lot of city centre based shops full artic loads most of the time so this wouldn’t help us, but there are frigin hundreds of different companies all delivering a box/pallet here and there, its daft in a way.
truckman020:
good idea,hope they do it for every city,its a bxxxxy nightmare driving in citys,let the customers come out to collect their goods,makes it easier for us
+1 absolutely!
holliefabbabe:
will be intresting when theres 2000 trannys whizzing about
That’s different, PRIDE marches are exempt.
Roymondo:
I think there’s a bit of (deliberate?) point-missing going on here. The idea is not to take bulk deliveries or perishable or chilled goods into the Consolidation Centre. In the former case there will be little or no benefit in terms of vehicle movements, and perishables, chilled etc require their own specialized handling. The aim is to take take the small/medium sized deliveries of “ordinary” boxed/packaged goods - which currently see several large vehicles from various companies dropping a pallet here, a dozen boxes there etc, before trundling off to the next town on their multi-drop route, and put them all onto one vehicle.The Bristol-Bath operation has been running for several years now and there are very few reported instances of stock damage/shortage. The retailers generally like it because they know the time/day their deliveries will be coming (they usually get 2 or 3 deliveries a week, instead of several small delivieries each day - at variable times).
but who pays for the added handling
The late Ross Garret,RIP,suggested years ago to Frome council,that they build a cargo hub outside of the town.
The artics would deliver to the hub and smaller vehicles deliver to the small streets in Frome.
Nothing came of his idea.
There is a M&S that was the old Safeway shop,in the winter,trucks spin out on the ice and snow on a steep gradient.
Artics deliver to the top of Cheap Street to shops.
Parked cars block them and cause chaos.
Catherine Hill is a narrow cobbled street full of shops that need deliveries.
nick2008:
Roymondo:
I think there’s a bit of (deliberate?) point-missing going on here. The idea is not to take bulk deliveries or perishable or chilled goods into the Consolidation Centre. In the former case there will be little or no benefit in terms of vehicle movements, and perishables, chilled etc require their own specialized handling. The aim is to take take the small/medium sized deliveries of “ordinary” boxed/packaged goods - which currently see several large vehicles from various companies dropping a pallet here, a dozen boxes there etc, before trundling off to the next town on their multi-drop route, and put them all onto one vehicle.The Bristol-Bath operation has been running for several years now and there are very few reported instances of stock damage/shortage. The retailers generally like it because they know the time/day their deliveries will be coming (they usually get 2 or 3 deliveries a week, instead of several small delivieries each day - at variable times).
but who pays for the added handling
Depends on the scheme in question. As I understand it, the Bristol scheme was originally totally free to the retailers, and paid for 100% by the local authority - But has since changed and there is some cost to the retailer although the local authority still pick up most of the bill. But most of the existing schemes are not compulsory - i.e. the retailers can choose whether to use it or continue with their direct deliveries. Interestingly, most retailers seem to opt for the Consolidation Centre as they actually like having their deliveries arrive at a single, known-in-advance time rather than having to be prepared to accept multiple deliveries at any time of the day/any day of the week.