Seems all of the propaganda by the news seems to be working, I heard someone say “I’m gonna get my license, wagon drivers are getting 50k a year delivering to supermarkets. Asda Warrington have advertised today for 40hr contract spread over 7 days at a massive £12 per hour. Some hours needed to earn £50k
We’re not far off £50k a year but we’d have to do the odd o/t shift here and there. Our current rates have smashed last years out of the park and I did £49k last year with o/t. Supermarket work is a doddle as well
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Quite a few people have told me they are considering it, well until they hear about 15 hour days and that’s just inter depot night trunking with no holdups. 
Ours went up above ASDA but that is nkghts and ADR, but even the hjghest earner isn’t goibg to get close to 50K. God knows where these figures come from.
stuwozere1:
We’re not far off £50k a year but we’d have to do the odd o/t shift here and there. Our current rates have smashed last years out of the park and I did £49k last year with o/t. Supermarket work is a doddle as wellSent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk
I’ll try and find mine from Tesco. That’s not bad though.
Edit:
Basic Rate of pay £14.12 per hour
Weekend rate £17.65 per hour
Night premium £17.65 per hour (22:00 to 06:00)
Overtime rate £21.18 per hour.
adam277:
stuwozere1:
We’re not far off £50k a year but we’d have to do the odd o/t shift here and there. Our current rates have smashed last years out of the park and I did £49k last year with o/t. Supermarket work is a doddle as wellSent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk
I’ll try and find mine from Tesco. That’s not bad though.
Edit:
Basic Rate of pay £14.12 per hour
Weekend rate £17.65 per hour
Night premium £17.65 per hour (22:00 to 06:00)
Overtime rate £21.18 per hour.
Our o/t rate is time and a half of that days going rate. Also anything over 180hrs is paid at £22.75ph
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i was sent the following rates for mind numbing store deliveries
this morning out of a certain Tesco RDC
£16 days
£17 nights
£18 sat
£19 sun
stuwozere1:
adam277:
stuwozere1:
We’re not far off £50k a year but we’d have to do the odd o/t shift here and there. Our current rates have smashed last years out of the park and I did £49k last year with o/t. Supermarket work is a doddle as wellSent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk
I’ll try and find mine from Tesco. That’s not bad though.
Edit:
Basic Rate of pay £14.12 per hour
Weekend rate £17.65 per hour
Night premium £17.65 per hour (22:00 to 06:00)
Overtime rate £21.18 per hour.Our o/t rate is time and a half of that days going rate. Also anything over 180hrs is paid at £22.75ph
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Who you working for? If you dont mind saying.
adam277:
stuwozere1:
adam277:
stuwozere1:
We’re not far off £50k a year but we’d have to do the odd o/t shift here and there. Our current rates have smashed last years out of the park and I did £49k last year with o/t. Supermarket work is a doddle as wellSent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk
I’ll try and find mine from Tesco. That’s not bad though.
Edit:
Basic Rate of pay £14.12 per hour
Weekend rate £17.65 per hour
Night premium £17.65 per hour (22:00 to 06:00)
Overtime rate £21.18 per hour.Our o/t rate is time and a half of that days going rate. Also anything over 180hrs is paid at £22.75ph
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Who you working for? If you dont mind saying.
Sainsburys out of Sherburn mate
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stuwozere1:
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That’s why the rates are what they are, and even at those rates they’ll still struggle because Sherburn is in the middle of nowhere. They are competing with approx 100 other companies 10 miles SW of them, many of which also have deep pockets to attract drivers, but unlike Sherburn, Whitwood has a big catchment area and also easy for drivers to commute to from further distances if they live close to the M62/M1.
My understanding was that Sainsburys Dartford have voted for Strike action - because these improved hourly rates - are only for the DHL contractors and Agency feed-ins - not the full timers wear-the-shirt Sainsbury’s drivers, who remain on sub-£14ph contracts at best.
If the differential gets to be too wide - full timers will eventually ditch their contracts to go agency at another yard where they don’t know you… I don’t think it would work out leaving a particular yard to come back to the same yard, as the other full timers would likely gang up, and report you like they do to other agency people they don’t like “Have you any idea how unpopular you are?” kind of scenario…
It is human nature to be irritated by people waxing lyrical about how they get better than you, essentially because full time bod wasn’t prepared to put their so-called “Secure job” at risk, and enter Agency World, which these days actually - I’d argue is now more secure than a full timer’s job!
…Certainlly no shortage of hours, and soon (I predict) no shortage of getting the shifts one wants and ONLY those shifts too! 
I turned down an agency job into Sainsbury’s, Dartford around a year ago.
I always ask for the Monday-Friday day rate to get the benchmark “minimum it can be”, and work from there.
Got told it was less than £12ph (dunno if it still is now though…) and I’d have to do an unpaid site induction and assessment, despite the fact I was already running into that yard as a supply driver Part time, and already hold a full HGV licence, oddly enough… 
Grounds for being fast-tracked through, no assessment, and I’d already effectively done an induction at that very yard…
No dice though.
Easy to walk away from, of course! 
Here we have a yard that is Geographically inside the M25, with 75% of their runs “inside greater London” - which I’m no fan of.
Top Dollar? - Wasn’t even on offer as it turned out. Even now I doubt if Sainsburys can compete with the full time rates offered by the discounters nowadays, or the agency rates going into say, Morrisons and Tescos, who seem to have now dropped the “times are 'ard” dodge, and gone for the throat instead, poaching drivers from other jobs to get those bums on seats…
I figured it would take “more than RM pay” to make it work - and that’s where it now seems to have gone.
Fill your boots, one and all!
If the rates have gone up substantially, surely less work is required to fulfill a decent wage, or is it the case that folks will look to maximise and do the overtime anyway? Get the tacho on POA every opportunity to get those overtime hours in at over £20 an hour? Strike while the iron’s hot, make hay while the sun shines? Lots of money in the bank and no time to spend it kind of thing?
Winseer:
I turned down an agency job into Sainsbury’s, Dartford around a year ago.
I always ask for the Monday-Friday day rate to get the benchmark “minimum it can be”, and work from there.
Way I see it they should be the best paying supermarket depot in the country. Considering it is meters away from the Dartford crossing. Imagine how many times you will have to leave early due to the tunnel being heavily congested or shut or your getting back late because tunnel/bridge traffic has basically slowed to a crawl.
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I’ve considered working at Sainsbury’s a few times but commuting over that crossing everyday… Not sure I could hack it. It is only a 30 minute drive for me but the prospect of having to leave an hour or hour and a half earlier so I can sit in traffic just to get to work doesn’t sound like fun.
Noremac:
If the rates have gone up substantially, surely less work is required to fulfill a decent wage, or is it the case that folks will look to maximise and do the overtime anyway? Get the tacho on POA every opportunity to get those overtime hours in at over £20 an hour? Strike while the iron’s hot, make hay while the sun shines? Lots of money in the bank and no time to spend it kind of thing?
Contractors are likely to resist people who “take the ■■■■” here.
There’s nothing wrong with trying to take home £500 - a reasonable week’s wage - for doing 3-4 shifts to earn that much though. 
If you insist on pushing the boat out to take home a grand for some outmoded 5-6-5-6 pattern though?
… Not for me any more. I’ll leave that to the younger and fitter people that clearly are NOT joining the industry at the other end…
adam277:
Winseer:
I turned down an agency job into Sainsbury’s, Dartford around a year ago.
I always ask for the Monday-Friday day rate to get the benchmark “minimum it can be”, and work from there.Way I see it they should be the best paying supermarket depot in the country. Considering it is meters away from the Dartford crossing. Imagine how many times you will have to leave early due to the tunnel being heavily congested or shut or your getting back late because tunnel/bridge traffic has basically slowed to a crawl.
kentonline.co.uk/dartford/n … ed-232368/
I’ve considered working at Sainsbury’s a few times but commuting over that crossing everyday… Not sure I could hack it. It is only a 30 minute drive for me but the prospect of having to leave an hour or hour and a half earlier so I can sit in traffic just to get to work doesn’t sound like fun.
I did an agency assignment last month on the Crossways estate, starting at tea time.
The traffic approaching the dartford crossing - impacted on my ability to commute in there, adding at least 15 minutes to the journey compared to my previous part time job that had me there first thing in the morning, rather than weekday evening rush hour.
This was on my own side of the river mind… I have been nagged by the mrs already to NOT chase jobs on the “wrong side of the river” (Thurrock, for me) under any circumstances. 
Wifey has spoken!
Winseer:
Noremac:
If the rates have gone up substantially, surely less work is required to fulfill a decent wage, or is it the case that folks will look to maximise and do the overtime anyway? Get the tacho on POA every opportunity to get those overtime hours in at over £20 an hour? Strike while the iron’s hot, make hay while the sun shines? Lots of money in the bank and no time to spend it kind of thing?Contractors are likely to resist people who “take the ■■■■” here.
There’s nothing wrong with trying to take home £500 - a reasonable week’s wage - for doing 3-4 shifts to earn that much though.
If you insist on pushing the boat out to take home a grand for some outmoded 5-6-5-6 pattern though?
… Not for me any more. I’ll leave that to the younger and fitter people that clearly are NOT joining the industry at the other end…
No, I’m not really talking about extra days. With the 48 hour average, six days is pretty much pie in the sky if you are doing some distance during the week on a five day pattern. With contracts now stipulating the basic at around 45-48 hours, you really need to be using a bit of POA (or breaks I suppose) to be able to get any amount of overtime in at all.
I was just interested to know if the folks that have eeked out £50k will continue to eek out the hours to get £55k-£60k or will they do less work for the same money. So often on here you hear comments about having to work all hours to make a decent living. Now the rates go up and I was just wondering if folks will work less because a decent living can be made on less hours.
Personally, I’m keeping my options open by using a bit of POA when I’m waiting to give myself more leeway so I can accept runs later in the year rather than have to think about my average. Idea being to keep within 48 average comfortably.
I reckon this £50-60k crowd are basically doing 5-6-5-6 12 hour shifts at rates upwards of £20ph - that’s all.
Me? - I don’t want to be doing more than 3 long shifts per week, @ 15 hours or a maximum of 4 shifts @ 12 hours.
I’ll do 5x10 when needs must, but even then - don’t like it if there is an hour’s meal break knocked off so one only gets paid 45 hours for a 50 hour week…
Winseer:
I reckon this £50-60k crowd are basically doing 5-6-5-6 12 hour shifts at rates upwards of £20ph - that’s all.
Not where I’m at. 56hrs on days or 53hrs on nights Mon-Fri both including breaks with one Saturday every 4 weeks will see you at £50k.
Conor:
Winseer:
I reckon this £50-60k crowd are basically doing 5-6-5-6 12 hour shifts at rates upwards of £20ph - that’s all.Not where I’m at. 56hrs on days or 53hrs on nights Mon-Fri both including breaks with one Saturday every 4 weeks will see you at £50k.
So you’re saying this 56 hours on days - isn’t over 5-6 shifts? 
I guess I could do 3x15 and 1x11 to achieve the same IF the meal breaks were paid… I can’t see how one can get 56 hours paid in less than 5 shifts - unless the breaks are paid… None of these top-dollar payers - does anything BUT dock you breaks though - don’t they?? RM dock 90 minutes, and I thought supermarkets - were docking 60 minutes?
Where are you at that you get breaks paid AND at top dollar rates?
Winseer:
Conor:
Winseer:
I reckon this £50-60k crowd are basically doing 5-6-5-6 12 hour shifts at rates upwards of £20ph - that’s all.Not where I’m at. 56hrs on days or 53hrs on nights Mon-Fri both including breaks with one Saturday every 4 weeks will see you at £50k.
So you’re saying this 56 hours on days - isn’t over 5-6 shifts?
I guess I could do 3x15 and 1x11 to achieve the same IF the meal breaks were paid… I can’t see how one can get 56 hours paid in less than 5 shifts - unless the breaks are paid… None of these top-dollar payers - does anything BUT dock you breaks though - don’t they?? RM dock 90 minutes, and I thought supermarkets - were docking 60 minutes?
Where are you at that you get breaks paid AND at top dollar rates?
The supermarket I work for don’t deduct breaks, at least not at our depot run by Wincanton
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